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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #90 on: 31 January 2012, 21:50:40 »
Well other than Katherine being a banshee, I'm a little bit honored that someone likes my little joke. Thanks, Peacemaker.

Hey, look on the bright side: the mods thought your joke was a novel excerpt. You're talented enough to be BattleTech writer!

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #91 on: 31 January 2012, 22:31:18 »
You can't assume people will always get references to movies, books, television shows, etc.

Tell me about it.

The rest of my D&D group didn't even get the reference when I said "world of difference between mostly dead and completely dead."
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #92 on: 31 January 2012, 22:39:14 »
The rest of my D&D group didn't even get the reference when I said "world of difference between mostly dead and completely dead."

Case in point. Firefly?

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #93 on: 31 January 2012, 22:40:58 »
Case in point. Firefly?
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #94 on: 31 January 2012, 22:59:03 »
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #95 on: 31 January 2012, 23:10:29 »
 That is if Katherine's day job does not get in the way.

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #96 on: 31 January 2012, 23:41:24 »
I have no idea who Eric Sandoval-Groell is, but you have now made him my favorite character ever.  And a Davion Character, no less.  Bravo.
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #97 on: 01 February 2012, 02:46:36 »
Sun-Tzu Liao was very much alive in the 3050s.

or was he?
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #98 on: 01 February 2012, 03:13:39 »
I have no idea who Eric Sandoval-Groell is, but you have now made him my favorite character ever.  And a Davion Character, no less.  Bravo.

He's one of those guys that I'd like to see more of some day. And technically, he's not a Davion character, bring from the Republic. Though, true, he's one of the ranking members of a pro-Davion nationalist militia...
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #99 on: 01 February 2012, 04:18:24 »
Erik's definitely one of the highlights of the DA novels I've read.

But IIRC he's a member of the Robinson Sandovals, but was sent to live with Aaron's family while a teenager
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #100 on: 01 February 2012, 05:18:04 »
For those wondering how much (or little) these things are planned before the authors gets to write the book, here is one of seven maps I made for Steven to use as a guide to the writeups about the war I did (this and the previous Lyran/Wolf attacks on the Shattered Worlds League were all planned by me from a 2 line note from Randall).

This map shows the LCAF + CWiE deployments (orange lines means units spread over several worlds, roman numerals means several units on that world), and the first wave of Clan Jade Falcon/Hell's Horses attacks. One aimed at Melissia to tie down that border, a second thrusting down towards Coventry and the third one striking down to connect with the occupied worlds in the former Republic.

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #101 on: 01 February 2012, 05:27:36 »
Thank you very much Oystein. Those are some glorious details you shared!

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #102 on: 01 February 2012, 05:37:45 »
That is very cool.  It's also somewhat sobering to see how much of Tamarind-Abbey the Lyrans gobbled up before they were stopped.
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #103 on: 01 February 2012, 07:16:04 »
Oystein, you are completely awesome. Thanks so much!
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #104 on: 01 February 2012, 09:39:05 »
You can't assume people will always get references to movies, books, television shows, etc.

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #105 on: 01 February 2012, 10:30:34 »
'It's much better to just turn over this mess to Julian and retire to some nice planet with good salsa and beer.'

This? This clearly marks Eric as a genius, and obviously the most qualified person for the throne. O0
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #106 on: 01 February 2012, 10:36:07 »
Ummm....is that a quote from a book? If so, we don't allow more than a couple of lines to be quoted on the forums. You can reference the book and page number if needed. Please edit your post.

Nope, just a very, very nicely written bit of humor there.

Nice touch with Lestrade. I wonder what the Bard would have done with the Davions...

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #107 on: 01 February 2012, 12:17:35 »
Unless it's Freeborth!

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #108 on: 01 February 2012, 12:30:06 »
This? This clearly marks Eric as a genius, and obviously the most qualified person for the throne. O0

That was a reference to Sword of Sedition where Eric is in a cantina eating chips and salsa with Jack Farrel. And I figured that after having to run things for an increasingly irrational Caleb that Eric would rather go on a quest to find better chips and salsa.

Nope, just a very, very nicely written bit of humor there.

Nice touch with Lestrade. I wonder what the Bard would have done with the Davions...


I'll admit I'm a fan of Stackpole's earlier novels before the word counts cut the later ones down. And some of my favorite lesser characters were Aldo Lestrade and Alesandro Steiner. I also love the ambiguous nature of the supernatural that shows up in those earlier novels like Aldo Lestrade's appearance in Blood of Kerensky. And I figured making Mason Aldo all along was better than my original idea.

As for the Bard, I could see some traces of King Lear in the death of Hanse Davion. Though Hanse fortunately didn't get to live to see the downfall of what he had worked to make possible. It would probably not have resulted in "Titus Andronicus", and if the Davions were the patrons of the Bard, we would have probably seen "Hanse Davion the Great" in the vein of the end of "Henry V".

However, I'll say that every time that I see the Master or Apollyon my mind seems to think Prospero from the "Tempest".

Though I think Melissa Steiner II would make a good Shakespearean tragic heroine. The audience sees her fatal flaw, but the early success make you forget that it'll probably come back to haunt her. And then bam in Act IV Scene II, she gets whacked.   
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #109 on: 01 February 2012, 12:53:29 »
As for the Bard, I could see some traces of King Lear in the death of Hanse Davion. Though Hanse fortunately didn't get to live to see the downfall of what he had worked to make possible. It would probably not have resulted in "Titus Andronicus", and if the Davions were the patrons of the Bard, we would have probably seen "Hanse Davion the Great" in the vein of the end of "Henry V".

I did that a few years ago - wish I still had it.


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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #110 on: 01 February 2012, 15:32:43 »
For those wondering how much (or little) these things are planned before the authors gets to write the book, here is one of seven maps I made for Steven to use as a guide to the writeups about the war I did (this and the previous Lyran/Wolf attacks on the Shattered Worlds League were all planned by me from a 2 line note from Randall).

This map shows the LCAF + CWiE deployments (orange lines means units spread over several worlds, roman numerals means several units on that world), and the first wave of Clan Jade Falcon/Hell's Horses attacks. One aimed at Melissia to tie down that border, a second thrusting down towards Coventry and the third one striking down to connect with the occupied worlds in the former Republic.

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Excellent Map. Thank You for a peak into the events of this novel.  O0 O0

Pretty Please. Will we see anymore maps from this book. O:-) O:-)

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #111 on: 01 February 2012, 15:39:14 »
For those wondering how much (or little) these things are planned before the authors gets to write the book, here is one of seven maps I made for Steven to use as a guide to the writeups about the war I did (this and the previous Lyran/Wolf attacks on the Shattered Worlds League were all planned by me from a 2 line note from Randall).

This map shows the LCAF + CWiE deployments (orange lines means units spread over several worlds, roman numerals means several units on that world), and the first wave of Clan Jade Falcon/Hell's Horses attacks. One aimed at Melissia to tie down that border, a second thrusting down towards Coventry and the third one striking down to connect with the occupied worlds in the former Republic.

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If reading the map correctly and interpreting your explanation above.

I count 9 Wolf-in-exile units and 60 LCAF units.

The LCAF had about 30-40 units as of FM 3085. So the Lyrans continue to build or re-build units. If we use these growth numbers as a guide. We can resaonable guess on the other major powers growth of their military's. O:-) O:-)

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #112 on: 01 February 2012, 15:45:49 »
If reading the map correctly and interpreting your explanation above.

I count 9 Wolf-in-exile units and 60 LCAF units.

The LCAF had about 30-40 units as of FM 3085. So the Lyrans continue to build or re-build units. If we use these growth numbers as a guide. We can resaonable guess on the other major powers growth of their military's. O:-) O:-)

Well, the Lyrans have been known to have a lot of under-strength units where the FS, for example, tends to make sure their units are combat-capable before mustering another unit. So 60 could be the same strength as 40, just diluted.
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #113 on: 01 February 2012, 15:57:10 »
I wouldn't use that map to gauge anything more than where LCAF military assests were deployed.

In fact the best part of this map is shows you who got what out of the old Wolf Occupation, subject to future changes of course.

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #114 on: 01 February 2012, 16:03:02 »
And actually looking at that map, there are a lot of three Lyran stars linked with an orange line. Like one group divided into three parts. Most likely a regiment deployed in battalions.
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #115 on: 01 February 2012, 16:07:06 »
For those wondering how much (or little) these things are planned before the authors gets to write the book, here is one of seven maps I made for Steven to use as a guide to the writeups about the war I did (this and the previous Lyran/Wolf attacks on the Shattered Worlds League were all planned by me from a 2 line note from Randall).

This map shows the LCAF + CWiE deployments (orange lines means units spread over several worlds, roman numerals means several units on that world), and the first wave of Clan Jade Falcon/Hell's Horses attacks. One aimed at Melissia to tie down that border, a second thrusting down towards Coventry and the third one striking down to connect with the occupied worlds in the former Republic.

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I have to say that this one .pdf made the Wolf Empire more real for me. And it filled in the void in my mental map of the old Wolf OZ.

Many, many thanks. O0


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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #116 on: 01 February 2012, 16:10:08 »
And actually looking at that map, there are a lot of three Lyran stars linked with an orange line. Like one group divided into three parts. Most likely a regiment deployed in battalions.

Or battalions deployed as companies.
Or companies deployed as lances.
Or lances deployed... naah.

The only thing those stars give you is the number of units, not their composition. That is only known to me and Grand Moff Darth Herb.

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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #117 on: 01 February 2012, 16:31:49 »
Or battalions deployed as companies.
Or companies deployed as lances.
Or lances deployed... naah.

The only thing those stars give you is the number of units, not their composition. That is only known to me and Grand Moff Darth Herb.

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If we're very, very good (or, more within the realm of possibility just not as terribly evil as normal) do you think we could get a look at the 3143 map? O:-)


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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #118 on: 01 February 2012, 16:59:36 »
For those wondering how much (or little) these things are planned before the authors gets to write the book, here is one of seven maps I made for Steven to use as a guide to the writeups about the war I did (this and the previous Lyran/Wolf attacks on the Shattered Worlds League were all planned by me from a 2 line note from Randall).

This map shows the LCAF + CWiE deployments (orange lines means units spread over several worlds, roman numerals means several units on that world), and the first wave of Clan Jade Falcon/Hell's Horses attacks. One aimed at Melissia to tie down that border, a second thrusting down towards Coventry and the third one striking down to connect with the occupied worlds in the former Republic.

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Jesus, what a mess. Also, I see the Horses got Tamar. Good for them! They deserve it.

Nope, just a very, very nicely written bit of humor there.

Nice touch with Lestrade. I wonder what the Bard would have done with the Davions...
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Re: Bonfire of Worlds- State of the Lyran Alliance
« Reply #119 on: 01 February 2012, 17:14:50 »
Jesus, what a mess.

That's nothing compared to what comes next. By 3143, the Lyran Commonwealth looks like an 'H'.


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