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« Reply #30 on: 27 January 2011, 07:39:07 »
The original Periphery handbook.
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« Reply #31 on: 27 January 2011, 07:49:15 »
The original Periphery handbook.

Which, unfortunately, isn't available any more.  :-\

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« Reply #32 on: 27 January 2011, 08:00:00 »
Which, unfortunately, isn't available any more.  :-\

Given the amount of errors in it, I don't think it's all that bad of a thing.
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« Reply #33 on: 27 January 2011, 08:30:09 »
The older Periphery books might have more, although one of them (I forget which) is an error-prone trap that needs to be carefully checked against other sources before use.

Not so much error-prone as people think.  More like "heavily retconned by later work."

If you play in FASA's BattleTech the old House Books and Periphery are actually amazingly useful as supplements.

If you play in FanPro/Catalyst's BattleTech, those books get less useful as the years go by as more and more of them are retconned.
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« Reply #34 on: 27 January 2011, 08:37:28 »
Right now it's also a book that contains most of the information about the Reunification War. I wonder if upcoming Historical will make it compeletely obsolete.

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« Reply #35 on: 27 January 2011, 08:38:31 »
Huh. I thought HB: MPS out did it in Reunification info, what with the pretty maps and all.

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« Reply #36 on: 27 January 2011, 10:20:05 »
Handbook Major Periphery States was a pretty big let down if you were looking for info on the Reunification War. The original Periphery book still has the most info, including detailing some of the turning points for the Magistracy and the Star League forces. The info in Handbook MPS was pretty generic. (I have to admit, considering the book was supposed to be about the major, current Periphery states, I would've liked to have seen alot more details about the fighting in the current periphery states, both during the Reunification War and the Periphery Uprising that lead to the Amaris coup, instead of all the details on the RWR side of things..that really belongs in a Historical product. Sure, some is necessary, but I would've rather seen a shifted focus).

As for nobility, the best I can find right now is in the "Other Notable Personalities" section of Masters and Minions (in the MoC writeup, naturally) that states that Kamala Roy was given the title "Durachi Roy of Joyz." So its possible that the 3 ranks (Froness, Girin, Durachi) might be the only ranks.

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« Reply #37 on: 27 January 2011, 10:53:01 »
Very possible.

Also, if you can build Leopards, you CAN build the new Leopards.  CAN.  Doesn't mean DO.  ;)

Hmmm.

How about a Pocket Warship based on the Leopard? Maybe something like the PT Boats of WWII.
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« Reply #38 on: 27 January 2011, 10:56:49 »
Like the one in TRO3075 that I mentioned?

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« Reply #39 on: 27 January 2011, 10:58:06 »
There are two out there..sort of. There's already a Leopard PWS IIRC, and there's a heavily modified Pirate Leopard from one of the XTROs. So it wouldn't be completely unrealistic (though it might be hard to make it unique enough to warrant a new one). You could also work in a nod to the fact that the Magistracy has traditionally armed their Leopards differently than everyone else.

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« Reply #40 on: 27 January 2011, 11:02:01 »
That pirate model isn't a pocket WarShip - no capital armament.  It's a lot more plausible for the Magistracy to be building, though, since their only source of capital missiles at present is likely to be the CC, which is apparently stingy about the things.

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« Reply #41 on: 27 January 2011, 12:22:19 »
Frankly I'll take plans and a factory to keep all those Dictators we got our hands on happy, and add a few more.  It may still be an overarmed Higgins boat, but it's a nice one nonetheless.
Considering that the Dictators were noted as being new, we've probably got a shipyard for that.  And I would like to see an assault ship variant.

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« Reply #42 on: 27 January 2011, 12:31:31 »
Like the one in TRO3075 that I mentioned?

Missed that.  :(
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« Reply #43 on: 27 January 2011, 17:29:15 »
That pirate model isn't a pocket WarShip - no capital armament.  It's a lot more plausible for the Magistracy to be building, though, since their only source of capital missiles at present is likely to be the CC, which is apparently stingy about the things.

Or they could...you know...BUILD them.  Its not the big guns that make cap ships rare.  It is the huge engines that are hard to build.

Building a bigger thunderbolt missile launcher or three every month or so to place on a fracking SPACE SHIP that they already build is a piece of cake compared to building a Star League superduper mega WarShip.

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« Reply #44 on: 27 January 2011, 17:39:06 »
They might, but until we get some sign they have the infrastructure, I'm going to remain skeptical.  Besides, that particular "PWS" is not that impressive.  Dedicating resources to the project honestly doesn't accomplish much of a return for your investment.

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« Reply #45 on: 27 January 2011, 17:39:53 »
Because of course a Capital Missile Launcher is nothing but an overweight T-bolt tube, right?

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« Reply #46 on: 28 January 2011, 05:05:09 »
As for nobility, the best I can find right now is in the "Other Notable Personalities" section of Masters and Minions (in the MoC writeup, naturally) that states that Kamala Roy was given the title "Durachi Roy of Joyz." So its possible that the 3 ranks (Froness, Girin, Durachi) might be the only ranks.

Thank you! I totally missed the informations of M&M! Yes, the CEO of MindStar Enterprises was named Durachi of Roy. Additionally, in HB:MPS there is a Duchess mentioned as planetary ruler within the small planetary description section. So there are old and new noble titles. Hm... Maybe the Froness use the old ones and the Durachi and Girin are the new?

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« Reply #47 on: 28 January 2011, 06:31:57 »
FM: Mercenaries, Revised talks about some Canopian Count in the Lethal Injection entry.
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« Reply #48 on: 28 January 2011, 07:55:36 »
FM: Mercenaries, Revised talks about some Canopian Count in the Lethal Injection entry.
Well, it talks less of Canopian Court and more of a generousity of a certain Canopian Colonel, whose name eludes me at the moment ;)

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« Reply #49 on: 28 January 2011, 07:58:53 »
Well, it talks less of Canopian Court and more of a generousity of a certain Canopian Colonel, whose name eludes me at the moment ;)

The Colonel is a Count.  ;)
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« Reply #50 on: 28 January 2011, 09:32:15 »
Intriguing.

So we do have traditional titles like duke and count and more Canopian typical ones like durachi. I really want to know how this works.

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« Reply #51 on: 28 January 2011, 09:51:35 »
Try Ask the Writers, maybe.

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« Reply #52 on: 28 January 2011, 10:47:21 »
Well, for Ms. Roy, she got her title granted to her. Count deSummersVille married into his. As a planetary ruler, the Duchess was likely born into royalty.
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« Reply #53 on: 28 January 2011, 10:49:40 »
Thank you! I totally missed the informations of M&M! Yes, the CEO of MindStar Enterprises was named Durachi of Roy. Additionally, in HB:MPS there is a Duchess mentioned as planetary ruler within the small planetary description section. So there are old and new noble titles. Hm... Maybe the Froness use the old ones and the Durachi and Girin are the new?

Well, she's Durachi Roy of Joyz, not Durachi of Roy :)

Its possible that the more traditional ranks are "sub-ranks." So you can have a Durachi Count and a Froness Count. Perhaps relatively teh same amount of wealth/power, but one comes from a founding family, the other made their money through business.

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« Reply #54 on: 28 January 2011, 12:19:11 »
Very interesting ideas!

Maybe I'll ask the writers in the official sectiion of the board.

Thank you!  :)

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« Reply #55 on: 28 January 2011, 12:33:40 »
The Colonel is a Count.  ;)
You're right, it seems I misread 'county' as 'country'.

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« Reply #56 on: 28 January 2011, 12:37:59 »
Second!

By the way, do all else here deem the MAF rank insignia as the most neat in the entire BT universe?  {>{>

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« Reply #57 on: 28 January 2011, 14:33:20 »
Intriguing.

So we do have traditional titles like duke and count and more Canopian typical ones like durachi. I really want to know how this works.
I may be wrong, but titles like Duke and Count may be formal classifications, whereas Durachi may simply be a kind of nickname used among nobles for determining who to be a snob to.

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« Reply #58 on: 30 January 2011, 05:08:19 »
Has anyone tried out any of the new Canopian designs from the last two TROs?

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« Reply #59 on: 30 January 2011, 05:35:25 »
I wanted to ask the same question!  ;D

I haven't yet, but I'm really curious about our little Penthis. Especially the second, MAF only variant.