Author Topic: 'Mechs and Vehicles affected by Ferro-Fibrous and Fractional Accounting changes.  (Read 2405 times)

mbear

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This is a companion post to the Returning players, please read this post that I made earlier. I needed more room in that post for updates, so this information was split off the main post and put here.

2. Can I use my old Technical Readouts?
Yes, but there've been a couple changes that may affect the units inside them. (TRO's with "Upgrade" or "Reprint" in the title typically have these fixed units in them.) Ferro-fibrous armor now rounds DOWN, not up. Several units were affected by this. The easiest way to deal with it is to purchase the updated Record Sheets package. If you really want to re-use your old record sheets, remove a point of armor from the center torso from these 'Mechs:

  • MCY-99 Mercury
  • MON-66 Mongoose
  • HER-1S Hermes
  • HSR 200-D Hussar
  • THG-11E Thug
  • HGN-732 Highlander
  • KGC-000 King Crab
  • TRN-3T Trident
  • SWF-606 Swift
  • RGU-133E Rogue
  • GTHA-500 Gotha
Credit to Blackjack Jones for this info.

Many vehicles in TRO 2750 and some in TRO 3026 used fractional accounting rules. These rules are now optional (located in Tactical Operations), so these units needed to be rebuilt. Like the 'Mechs affected by the Ferro-Fibrous issue, the easiest way to deal with it is to buy the updated Record Sheets package. Usually the older record sheets work fine. Affected units include:
  • Ripper: Fractional accounting, rounding down the FF, infantry bay added that was described in fluff.
  • Beagle: Lost half a ton of armor from fractional accounting. Also hit by the FF change.
  • Nightshade: Fractional accounting. Also note that 3050UU Record Sheets increased the speed of the TRO:2750 version to get it updated to modern design rules. Newer variants tend to have the old 2750 MP's, but with far greater payload.
  • Rotunda: Ferro Fibrous rounding.
  • Cyrano: Ferro Fibrous rounding, and it must be noted the TRO:2750 version had a power amplifier it didn't need, leading the 3050UU Record Sheet version to mount more armor.
  • Lighting: Fractional accounting (and the fact the design was slightly overweight) led to the removal of the MG indicated in TRO:2750. Also hit with the FF change.
  • Kanga: Lost half a ton of MG ammo because 2750 version is overweight.
  • Thor Artillery Vehicle: Fractional accounting leads to the loss of half a ton of FF armor.
  • Marksman: Fractional accounting leads to the loss of half a ton of FF armor.
  • Burke: Fractional accounting leads to the loss of half a ton of FF armor.
  • Fury: Lost half a ton of armor, picks up an infantry bay (that wasn't mentioned in 2750 fluff). Origional design was underweight, some of which was lost with fractional accounting.
  • Puma: Mech Flamer switched with Vehicle flamer, correcting the number of heat sinks needed, and fractional accounting lead to the loss of a ton and a half of armor.
  • Ferret Light Scout VTOL: Lost quarter ton of fluff sensors.
  • Savanna Master: Lost quarter ton of fluff sensors.
  • Swift Wind: Communications Equipment reduced to 2 tons to match current rules, half ton cargo area added, rest lost to fractional accounting.
  • J-27 Ordinance Transport: TRO:3039 updates the trailers to current rules.
  • Skulker: Exchanged .4 tons of sensors for cargo space.
  • Warrior: Lost quarter ton of fluff sensors.
  • Harasser: Lost half a ton of armor.
  • Mobile HQ: Lost half ton of cargo space.
  • Sea Skimmer Hydrofoil: Lost Half ton of armor.
  • Pegasus Scout Tank: Exchanged a ton of fluff sensors for .4 ton of cargo space.
  • Engineering Vehicle: "Equipment" swapped out for a Backhoe and Lift Hoist to work with current rules. Half a ton of armor and a turret for the Backhoe added with the remainder tonnage.
  • Drillson: Lost half a ton of armor.
  • Hi-Scout Drone Carrier: The drone rules and how they are constructed were reworked in Tactical Operations. The Hi-Scout now carries five drones instead of the six indicated in 3026. The hover drones are now heavier and slower than their 3026 versions.
  • Manticore: The engine is not calculated correctly in TRO: 3026. The correct version in 3039 reduces both ammo bins to compensate.
  • Mobile Long Tom Artillery: MG ammo and Communications Equipment increased to compensate for the removal of fluff targeting and tracking equipment. Construction data for trailers in TRO: 3039 matches the current trailer rules.
  • Monitor Naval Vessel: Jump Infantry bay reduced to 1.5 tons.
  • Rommel: Lost half a ton of armor.
  • Von Luckner: Lost half ton of MG ammo.
  • Schrek: Lost half a ton of armor.
  • Ontos: Lost half a ton of armor, gained a .2 ton cargo bay.
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Fractional: or just be aware you are using an optional rule (fractional accounting).

Less than .5 tons Cargo: There was also a more recent errata that got rid a lot of the less than .5 cargo on combat vehicles. (Power amplifiers round up to nearest half ton.)
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,3797.0.html errata to TR3039 showing the removal of the .2, .4 ton, etc cargo.  Also has a link to the errata.

Alpha Strike Introduction resources
Left of Center blog - Tukayyid Expanded Random Unit Tables, Nashira Campaign for A Game of Armored Combat, TP 3039 Vega Supplemental Record Sheets

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Where would the vehicles from 2750 lose the half ton of armor, or any other tonnage lost and or gained in different areas? Is there an errata available? I do not see it justifiable to have to buy another of the same item to get the correct stats.

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Where would the vehicles from 2750 lose the half ton of armor, or any other tonnage lost and or gained in different areas? Is there an errata available? I do not see it justifiable to have to buy another of the same item to get the correct stats.
AFAIK, the updated stats are in Record Sheets: 3039 and Record Sheets: 3050. Granted it's not an errata, but it's the best option. You get updated record sheets for ALL the variants listed in the TROs. Pretty sweet deal, actually.

RS:3039 gives you something like 490 record sheets. There are two RS:3050 products, and between them they give you another 500+ sheets.
« Last Edit: 22 January 2014, 07:29:00 by mbear »
Be the Loremaster:

Battletech transport rules take a very feline approach to moving troops in a combat zone: If they fits, they ships.

You bought the box set and are ready to expand your BT experience. Now what? (Thanks Sartis!)