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Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« on: 10 May 2013, 23:51:27 »
Just wondering...

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #1 on: 18 May 2013, 21:56:40 »
Are you talking about the Cobra vehicle that looked a whole lot like the A-10 Thunderbolt?
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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #2 on: 18 May 2013, 22:00:47 »
The SLDF's mobile structure that was housed inside select Castles Brian and used for supplementary anti-aircraft firepower.  The Blakist upgrade - Rattler Mk II - was profiled and statted in Jihad Hot Spots - Terra, but the SLDF's Mk I was only referenced, not statted.
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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #3 on: 18 May 2013, 22:11:53 »
Oh, okay.  Are we talking Ogre-sized?  And would you use the Mobile Structures rules to make this thing?
The Patton of wargame design, the Berg himself, is being immortally quoted elsewhere.
"Rich Berg once responded to gamers comments about one of his games, "I make this ****** up, so can you.""

"Back in MY day we played Battletech with figures made of LEAD! POISONED LEAD! And the only PAINT we had was RADIOACTIVE! Why, we lost at least THREE or FOUR dear friends every YEAR to BATTLETECH POISONING! But we didn't know any better, and we LIKED IT!
And we rolled DICE for HOURS to play our games! There was none of this plastic clicky nonsense! Our DICE were radioactive TOO! And we had to roll them for hours and hours and hours to track EVERY SINGLE MISSILE! Why, my some of my friends are STILL rolling dice for their last turn when I left Norman THREE YEARS ago! And I don't plan to move back for at least five years and it STILL won't be my turn! But we didn't know any better, and we LIKED IT.
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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #4 on: 18 May 2013, 22:12:42 »
Cincy did it not too long ago.  I'll go hunt the stats down.
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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #5 on: 19 May 2013, 18:25:21 »
Thanks Pope, see you at Gencon this year.

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #6 on: 19 May 2013, 19:35:36 »
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My three main Alternate Timeline with Thanks fan-fiction threads are in the links below. I'm always open to suggestions or additions to be incorporated so if you feel you wish to add something feel free. There's non-canon units, equipment, people, events, erm... Solar Systems spread throughout so please enjoy

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,20515.0.html - Part 1

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,52013.0.html - Part 2

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #7 on: 29 July 2013, 17:44:37 »
So no luck tracking down the Mk I?

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #8 on: 26 April 2014, 19:50:02 »
Bump... any luck Pope?

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #9 on: 27 April 2014, 02:38:20 »
At the very least, I'd want the weapons on opposing hexes to be identical.  When ground units engage it, they will try to get to the weakest side, based on weaponry.  Solution - make all sides equal.

I.e.
.1.2.
3.4.5
.6.7.

The above are the 7 hexes of a Rattler (of whatever Mark).  Hexes 1 and 7 would have the same armament.  Ditto for hexes 2 and 6, along with 3 and 5.  Hexes 1, 2, 3 might have different weapons, but opposite sides would be identical.  The internal stuff can and likely will be different, to allow for making the whole thing fit together.

One way to model the older Rattler would be to take a list of the current tech used, and remove that.  We then make a Rattler from what is left.  I.e. if the SCL/3 are not present originally, then add more Barracuda missiles and launchers.

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #10 on: 30 January 2015, 13:19:15 »
Still holding out.

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #11 on: 12 April 2015, 14:24:10 »
Wasn't the WoB Mk-2 just a weapons refit using 3060+ era weapons?
Or was it a full on new production model of a different size?

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #12 on: 15 April 2015, 16:12:39 »
Mk II's ae rebuilts from the SLDF Mk I's.

As of date, a Mark I Rattler may or may not have 6 Barracuda Launchers. I do know it has same speed, armor, capacity and non-capital weapons as Mark II. Only the Heavy Gauss Rifles are new, being older Heavier Autocannons were on it. So either AC/20's or /10's, most likely /10's supporting.

My idea is 1.5- AC/10's per HGR... or 3 total. or you could go 2-10's and a -20 in a turret.... 36 tons.

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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #13 on: 15 April 2015, 21:39:59 »
Why not Regular Gauss?
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Re: Anyone want to stab at recreating the Rattler Mk I?
« Reply #14 on: 18 April 2015, 20:13:32 »
Heavier Cannon is the fluff... I just assumed it was standard Autocannon.

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TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
If I'm attacking you, conventional wisom says to bring 3x your force.  I want extra insurance, so I'll bring 4 for every 1 of what you have :D ~ Tai Dai Cultist on 21 April 2016
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