Author Topic: Design Challenge: Eater of Worlds (Read 4733 times)

Grave · « **on:** 21 August 2011, 00:43:12 »

Okay, so I have always loved the art for the Atlas, but the canon variants for the most part make a sad Grave. The one I most appreciate is probably the classic AS-7K, but even that lacks punch for a 100 ton avatar of death. There are far scarier Mechs out there, and I've always enjoyed tinkering around to see how one could improve the Atlas to make it once again King of the Battlefield.

Turning to Clantech always makes things more interesting, so I've gone ahead and designed an experimental build that does some rather nasty things.

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Eater-of-Worlds EOW-1EX

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 26,399,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,017

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h (43.2 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Patchwork
Armament:
2 ER Large Lasers
1 LB 20-X AC
2 ATM-6s
4 Imp. Hvy Medium Lasers
1 Angel ECM
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 152 points 5.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 300 9.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5 (4)
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 14(28) 4.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro: Standard 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA
Armor: Patchwork AV - 307 35.50
CASE Locations: LT, RT, LA, RA 0.00

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head (Hardened Armor) 3 9
Center Torso (Hardened Armor) 31 47
Center Torso (rear) 15
Left Torso (Hardened Armor) 21 32
Left Torso (rear) 10
Right Torso (Hardened Armor) 21 32
Right Torso (rear) 10
Left Arm (Hardened Armor) 17 34
Right Arm (Hardened Armor) 17 34
Left Leg (Standard Armor) 21 42
Right Leg (Standard Armor) 21 42

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Angel ECM CT 0 2 2.00
LB 20-X AC RT/RA 6 7/2 12.00
2 ATM-6s LT 8 6 7.00
2 Imp. Hvy Medium Lasers RA 14 4 2.00
ER Large Laser RA 12 1 4.00
2 Imp. Hvy Medium Lasers LA 14 4 2.00
ER Large Laser LA 12 1 4.00
@LB 20-X (Slug) (10) RT - 2 2.00
@LB 20-X (Cluster) (5) RT - 1 1.00
@ATM-6 (20) LT - 2 2.00
@ATM-6 (HE) (20) LT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 30
3 5 4 2 0 4 3 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: AECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, FLK 1/1/0

The design has several glaring flaws: first and foremost it is the absolute bracketfire Mech from hell. There's no way to keep this beast cool without strict fire discipline. Basic fire groupings include the ATM6's with the ERLL; the 4 iHMLs by themselves; and the LBX with the ATMs and 2 iHMLs.

Secondly, there's no spare room. This thing uses every critical slot available. It's missing a hand and lower arm actuator just to make space.

Third, it's still relatively weak at range, a bad thing for a mech with a 3/5 movement profile.

On the other hand, the Eater has Hardened armor everywhere except the legs, giving it a truly disgusting amount of coverage without sacrificing (even more) mobility. You aren't going to headcap this thing. You aren't going to break it in a single turn when it comes around the corner in the middle of that cityscape. You aren't even going to critseek it very well. It has enough ammo to be generous with the pain when the opportunity presents itself, and the design does roughly follow classic Atlas loadouts (medium lasers, heavy autocannon, long / short range missiles, with the ERLL from the K variants added in).

My challenge to the community is to do as follows, with either Spheroid or Clan tech: Build a better Atlas with the following rules. 1. Use Hardened Armor. 2. It has to be more effective from a weaponry perspective than the old D variants, and at least as effective as the K variants. 3. Style points for using classic loadouts as a jumping off point. You don't have to stick to them directly, but points for using medium lasers, gauss/large laser combinations, and long range/short range missile + heavy autocannon combinations.

Diablo48 · « **Reply #1 on:** 21 August 2011, 02:49:22 »

How does this look? I went with FL armor rather than hardened because the movement penalty from hardened just hurts too much for the minimal benefit it gives you, and I also pushed the boundaries of what is an Atlas with a 3/5/5 movement profile to give it a major advantage in its native urban environments. I continued this urban warfare theme with an Active Probe and ECM to give you an information advantage for setting up ambushes and landing your big guns on your enemies' rear armor with a Micro Pulse Laser tagging along for anti-infantry work. Of course, all these upgrades leave the Atlas a little bit lacking in firepower compared to other Clan assaults, but the UAC 20, triple SSRM 4's, ERML, and token ERLL for long ranged combat are generally more than sufficient to ruin someone's day. The 12 DHS are not really fully up to managing the heat load from the weapons, but thanks to the fact that you are primarily jump-mobile in an environment where breaking line of sight is trivially easy that is less of a concern.

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Atlas IIC 3 

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 26,781,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,058

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
    1  Ultra AC/20
    1  ER Large Laser
    1  ER Medium Laser
    3  Streak SRM-4s
    1  Micro Pulse Laser
    1  ECM Suite
    1  Active Probe
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 5 Improved
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL                      20.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Lamellor               AV - 307                 22.00
    Armor Locations: 1 LT, 7 LA, 4 RA
    CASE Locations: HD, LT, RA                                             0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           45        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  17        
                                           L/R Torso     21           29        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  13        
                                             L/R Arm     17           34        
                                             L/R Leg     21           42        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Medium Laser                              RA        5         1         1.00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        1         4.00
Ultra AC/20                                  RT        7         8        12.00
3 Streak SRM-4s                              LT        9         3         6.00
ECM Suite                                    LT        0         1         1.00
Active Probe                                 LT        0         1         1.00
Micro Pulse Laser                            LT        1         1         0.50
@Ultra AC/20 (15)                            RA        -         3         3.00
@Streak SRM-4 (25)                           LT        -         1         1.00
@Ultra AC/20 (5)                             HD        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     12    Points: 31
3/5j       5       5       1       0      4     1   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ECM, PRB, RCN, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA

LastChanceCav · « **Reply #2 on:** 21 August 2011, 08:21:20 »

Here's my take: the Atlas III from the Clan's Golden Century.

Cheers,
LCC

mighty midget · « **Reply #3 on:** 21 August 2011, 12:00:04 »

Here's my rendition. I really like using the Streak LRM racks in conjunction with hard hitting weapons. This is very much a plod along and drop 'em from range kind of Atlas. By the way, does anyone remember seeing any canon designs using the SLRMs?

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Atlas IIC

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3063
Cost: 24,521,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,153

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h (43.2 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Hardened
Armament:
    1  Streak LRM-20
    1  Gauss Rifle
    1  Large Pulse Laser
    3  ER Medium Lasers
    1  ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5 (4)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Hardened                     AV - 276                 34.50
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00
    CASE II Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT                                          1.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           44        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  11        
                                           L/R Torso     21           31        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  11        
                                             L/R Arm     17           28        
                                             L/R Leg     21           36        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Pulse Laser                            RA        10        2         6.00
2 ER Medium Lasers                           LA        10        2         2.00
Streak LRM-20                                RT        6         5        10.00
Gauss Rifle                                  LT        1         6        12.00
(R) ER Medium Laser                          CT        5         1         1.00
ECM Suite                                    HD        0         1         1.00
@Streak LRM-20 (12)                          RT        -         2         2.00
@Gauss Rifle (24)                            LT        -         3         3.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 19

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     14    Points: 32
3          4       4       3       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ECM, CASEII, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, LRM 2/2/2

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #4 on:** 21 August 2011, 14:28:40 »

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Atlathingy Mass: 100 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Clan Invasion Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F Production Year: 3070 Cost: 13,358,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 3,257 Chassis: Unknown Standard Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion Engine Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor Armament: 1 HAG-40 2 Imp. Hvy Large Lasers 1 ATM-12 2 ER Medium Lasers 1 TAG Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Standard 152 points 10.00 Engine: Fusion Engine 300 19.00 Walking MP: 3 Running MP: 5 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 294 21.00 Armor Locations: 5 LA, 5 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL CASE Locations: LT, RT, LA, RA 0.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 31 45 Center Torso (rear) 12 L/R Torso 21 32 L/R Torso (rear) 10 L/R Arm 17 32 L/R Leg 21 40 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Imp. Hvy Large Laser RA 18 3 4.00 Imp. Hvy Large Laser LA 18 3 4.00 HAG-40 RT 8 10 16.00 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00 ATM-12 LT 8 5 7.00 ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00 TAG HD 0 1 1.00 @HAG-40 (6) LT - 2 2.00 @ATM-12 (5) LT - 1 1.00 @ATM-12 (ER) (5) LT - 1 1.00 @ATM-12 (HE) (5) LT - 1 1.00 @HAG-40 (3) RL - 1 1.00 @HAG-40 (3) LL - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 2 BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 12 Points: 33 3 5 4 2 0 4 3 Structure: 8 Special Abilities: TAG, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, FLK 1/1/1

Badly undersinked I admit, but for output it breaks the gunfire-tonnage parity at range 15. Even on averages that's still 90 points...

Feign · « **Reply #5 on:** 21 August 2011, 17:28:56 »

Such variety! Such complexity! How can I possibly top this?

By going back to basics. Plus twin Clan ER Micro lasers in the eyes for extra intimidation! }:) (and heat management for the TSM)

Quote from: The AS7-DOOM

World Eater AS7-DOOM Mass: 100 tons Tech Base: Mixed Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: Clan Invasion Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X Production Year: 3070 Cost: 27,626,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 3,379 Chassis: Endo-Steel Power Plant: Clan 300 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h (43.2 km/h) Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h (64.8 km/h) Armor: Hardened Armament: 1 (IS) Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle 1 (IS) Heavy PPC + PPC Capacitor 4 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers 2 (CL) ER Micro Lasers 1 C3 Computer (Slave) ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 152 points 5.00 Internal Locations: 1 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA Engine: XL Engine 300 9.50 Walking MP: 3 (4) Running MP: 5 (6) Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: (IS) Double Heat Sink 12(24) 2.00 Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Small 2.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H TSM Locations: 3 LA, 3 RA Armor: Hardened AV - 304 38.00 Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 31 47 Center Torso (rear) 14 L/R Torso 21 32 L/R Torso (rear) 10 L/R Arm 17 34 L/R Leg 21 41 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Laser RA 7 2 1.00 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Laser LA 7 2 1.00 (IS) Heavy PPC + PPC Capacitor RT 20 4 10.00 (IS) Heavy PPC + PPC Capacitor RT 5* 1 1.00 2 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers RT 14 4 2.00 (IS) Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle CT/LT 2 1/10 20.00 C3 Computer (Slave) CT 0 1 1.00 2 (CL) ER Micro Lasers HD 2 2 0.50 @iHGR ( 8 ) RL - 2 2.00 @iHGR ( 8 ) LL - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0

Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle, Capped HPPC, 4 Improved Heavy Medium Lasers, TSM and the micro lasers to keep it right at the redline if needed, and the full load of Hardened Armor.

This is the beast that the Atlas was meant to be.

Grave · « **Reply #6 on:** 21 August 2011, 22:51:38 »

Quote from: Feign on 21 August 2011, 17:28:56

This is the beast that the Atlas was meant to be.

With some tweaks, this just might be my favorite.

I don't like the small cockpit. I do like the iHGR and iHMLs, but I would probably swap out the Heavy PPC for an cERPPC. Why the heck not? It saves you four tons (which should immediately get dumped into heat sinks, there's no way in hell you'll have a problem generating enough heat to maintain advantage with TSM). Let me tinker.

Grave · « **Reply #7 on:** 21 August 2011, 23:29:09 »

Atlas Monstrum

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 35,598,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 4,101

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h (43.2 km/h)
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h (75.6 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Hardened
Armament:
1 (CL) ER PPC + PPC Capacitor
1 (IS) Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle
4 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers
2 (CL) Micro Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 152 points 5.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 LA, 1 RA, 1 RL
Engine: XL Engine 300 9.50
Walking MP: 3 (4)
Running MP: 5 (7)
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LL
Gyro: Compact 4.50
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
TSM Locations: 1 LT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 RL
Armor: Hardened AV - 303 38.00
CASE Locations: CT, LT, RT, LA, RA 0.00

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 31 47
Center Torso (rear) 15
L/R Torso 21 32
L/R Torso (rear) 10
L/R Arm 17 34
L/R Leg 21 40

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(IS) Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle CT/RT 2 2/9 20.00
2 (CL) Micro Pulse Lasers CT 2 2 1.00
Supercharger RT - 1 1.00
(CL) ER PPC + PPC Capacitor LT 20 2 6.00
(CL) ER PPC + PPC Capacitor LT 5* 1 1.00
2 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers RA 14 4 2.00
2 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers LA 14 4 2.00
@iHGR (16) LT - 4 4.00
Free Critical Slots: 1

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 15 Points: 41
4 4 4 2 0 4 2 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: TSM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA

Feign · « **Reply #8 on:** 21 August 2011, 23:56:59 »

Quote from: Grave on 21 August 2011, 22:51:38

With some tweaks, this just might be my favorite.

I don't like the small cockpit. I do like the iHGR and iHMLs, but I would probably swap out the Heavy PPC for an cERPPC. Why the heck not? It saves you four tons (which should immediately get dumped into heat sinks, there's no way in hell you'll have a problem generating enough heat to maintain advantage with TSM). Let me tinker.

I myself was corrected on the fact that per Tac.Ops. the PPC Capacitor is only available for Inner Sphere PPCs. It's a bug in SSW that allows it on the cERPPC, also, the compact cockpit isn't that big a deal, as you'd be assigning these to your ace pilots anyway. Besides: It's a small price to pay for eye lasers! :D

Grave · « **Reply #9 on:** 22 August 2011, 08:51:18 »

Where does it say that in TacOps? I'm looking at p.337, which is the entry for the capacitor, and see no such limitation.

Feign · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 August 2011, 17:52:48 »

Quote from: Grave on 22 August 2011, 08:51:18

I'm looking at p.337, which is the entry for the capacitor, and see no such limitation.

Page 336, the Construction Rules for the Cap...

Quote from: TO p336

PPC Capacitors may be added to any Inner Sphere standard-scale PPC weapon (including Light PPCs, Heavy PPCs, ER PPCs, and Snub nosed PPCs, but not counting Navel PPCs of any size or particle cannon weapons carried by infantry units).

Overlooking the construction rules are very easy to do in Tac Ops... just remember, they're always on the even page either below or across from the entry to which they refer.

Grave · « **Reply #11 on:** 22 August 2011, 18:36:51 »

Quote from: Feign on 22 August 2011, 17:52:48

Page 336, the Construction Rules for the Cap...Overlooking the construction rules are very easy to do in Tac Ops... just remember, they're always on the even page either below or across from the entry to which they refer.

Bah. That's just a "we don't want energy AC20s flying around at 20+ hexes, not "this wouldn't work."

Feign · « **Reply #12 on:** 22 August 2011, 18:43:37 »

Quote from: Grave on 22 August 2011, 18:36:51

Bah. That's just a "we don't want energy AC20s flying around at 20+ hexes, not "this wouldn't work."

It's right up there with "We don't want a single infantry weapon dealing more than 5 damage"... They single out infantry-scale PPCs because it has been asked about before yanno.

Prince of Darkness · « **Reply #13 on:** 22 August 2011, 23:08:22 »

Feign gave me the idea for this one, and all I did was ran with it.

To save some tonnage, I used Ferro-Lamellor instead of Hardened for the limbs to save tonnage, however I don't know if it really matters in this case since his could still use Endo steel for more space. More importantly are the armored components- with it's hips and gyro covered and compact, it's a hope that he'll be able to leave the battlefield on his own power despite crippling damage.

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EATER OF WORLDS 

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 36,788,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,726

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h (43.2 km/h)
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h (75.6 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Patchwork
Armament:
    1  (CL) ER PPC + PPC Capacitor
    1  (IS) Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle
    4  (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers
    2  (CL) Micro Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             XL Engine                    300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3 (4)
    Running MP: 5 (7)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         (CL) Double Heat Sink        13(26)                    3.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
Gyro:               (A) Compact                                            5.50
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Arm Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
    Leg Actuators:      L: (A)H+UL+LL+F    R: (A)H+UL+LL+F
    TSM Locations: 1 HD, 1 CT, 2 LA, 2 RA
Armor:              Patchwork                    AV - 303                 31.00
    CASE Locations: CT, LT, RT, LA, RA                                     0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                   Head              (Hardened Armor)    3            9         
           Center Torso              (Hardened Armor)    31           45        
    Center Torso (rear)                                               15        
             Left Torso              (Hardened Armor)    21           30        
      Left Torso (rear)                                               11        
            Right Torso              (Hardened Armor)    21           30        
     Right Torso (rear)                                               11        
               Left Arm              (Ferro-Lamellor)    17           34        
              Right Arm              (Ferro-Lamellor)    17           34        
               Left Leg              (Ferro-Lamellor)    21           42        
              Right Leg              (Ferro-Lamellor)    21           42        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(IS) Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle              CT/LT     2         1/10     20.00
2 (CL) Micro Pulse Lasers                    CT        2         2         1.00
(CL) ER PPC + PPC Capacitor                  RT        20        2         6.00
    (CL) ER PPC + PPC Capacitor              RT        5*        1         1.00
Supercharger                                 RT        -         1         1.00
2 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers          RA        14        4         2.00
2 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers          LA        14        4         2.00
@iHGR (16)                                   RT        -         4         4.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 37
4          4       4       2       0      4     4   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: TSM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA

Just under 4,000 BV for one 'mech. Wow.

stoicfaux · « **Reply #14 on:** 22 August 2011, 23:29:10 »

3/5/0 may be slow, but with 16 DHS and
2 ER PPCs
2 Gauss Rifles
2 LRM-10s
range isn't necessarily going to be a problem.

Atlas - EoW - Proposed

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-D-D
Production Year: 0
Cost: 11,516,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,167

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER PPCs
2 Gauss Rifles
2 LRM-10s
1 Small Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 152 points 5.00
Internal Locations: 2 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Engine: Fusion Engine 300 19.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA
Gyro: Standard 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 304 16.00
Armor Locations: 1 HD, 1 CT, 2 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 31 48
Center Torso (rear) 13
L/R Torso 21 31
L/R Torso (rear) 11
L/R Arm 17 33
L/R Leg 21 42

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(R) Small Pulse Laser CT 2 1 1.00
Gauss Rifle RT 1 6 12.00
LRM-10 RT 4 1 2.50
Gauss Rifle LT 1 6 12.00
LRM-10 LT 4 1 2.50
ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00
ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00
@Gauss Rifle (16) RT - 2 2.00
@LRM-10 (12) RT - 1 1.00
@Gauss Rifle (16) LT - 2 2.00
@LRM-10 (12) LT - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 32
3 5 6 6 0 4 0 Structure: 8
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, LRM 1/1/1, IF 1

Grave · « **Reply #15 on:** 23 August 2011, 00:42:15 »

[applause]

Points for stoicfaux posting the first mech that can actually fire more than 50% of its' primary weaponry without shutting down, lol.

I love these designs so far, btw.

Diablo48 · « **Reply #16 on:** 23 August 2011, 04:16:50 »

Quote from: Grave on 23 August 2011, 00:42:15

[applause]

Points for stoicfaux posting the first mech that can actually fire more than 50% of its' primary weaponry without shutting down, lol.

I love these designs so far, btw.

Mine can do that as well. Just leave off the token ERLL and everything is fine. Sure it heats up a bit, but at 3/5/5 it has the maneuverability to break contact and cool off if it needs to.

Grave · « **Reply #17 on:** 23 August 2011, 09:23:00 »

Quote from: Diablo48 on 23 August 2011, 04:16:50

Mine can do that as well. Just leave off the token ERLL and everything is fine. Sure it heats up a bit, but at 3/5/5 it has the maneuverability to break contact and cool off if it needs to.

True, but yours doesn't even have the long range capability of the old D class variants - which had an LRM 20 as opposed to a single ERLL - and doesn't use hardened armor, two of the requested specs for the machine. Yours is good for the role you designed it for, but I don't see it as really following the design rules of the contest as posted.

Prince of Darkness · « **Reply #18 on:** 23 August 2011, 09:29:10 »

Quote from: Grave on 23 August 2011, 00:42:15

[applause]

Points for stoicfaux posting the first mech that can actually fire more than 50% of its' primary weaponry without shutting down, lol.

I love these designs so far, btw.

If only he'd remembered to use Hardened armor instead... ;D

Grave · « **Reply #19 on:** 23 August 2011, 09:33:28 »

[facepalm]

Ah well, nothing's perfect, lol.

I'm still loving all the different interpretations, though. Glad to know I'm not the only one who sees ways to update the good ol' Atlas...

soshi · « **Reply #20 on:** 23 August 2011, 12:11:29 »

I went with a different approach. I should have range on most opponents, coupled with a floating map, can keep myself out of there range for a few rounds

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Type/Model: Atlas AS7-DBx
Mass: 100 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Standard 0 10.00
Engine: 300 XL Fusion 12 9.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 304 pts Patchwork 19 24.50

Internal Armor Armor
Structure Value Type
Head: 3 9 Â·hff
Center Torso: 31 47 Â·h
Center Torso (Rear): 14 Â·ff
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32 Â·h
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10 Â·ff
L/R Arm: 17 34/34 Â·ff
L/R Leg: 21 41/41 Â·hff

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ELRM-15 (THB) RA 8 18 9 15.00
(Ammo Locations: 3 LA)
3 Med X-Pulse Lasers LA 18 3 6.00
1 Thunderbolt 15 RT 7 8 5 13.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 HV AC/5 (THB) LT 3 15 5 13.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
CASE II Equipment: 3 3.00
(CASE II Loc: 1 LA, 1 LT, 1 RT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 36 77 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 1 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 24,170,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,694
Cost per BV: 14,268.0
Weapon Value: 2,455 / 2,455 (Ratio = 1.45 / 1.45)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 19; MRDmg = 19; LRDmg = 13
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/4
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/1, Overheat: 2
Class: MA; Point Value: 17

soshi · « **Reply #21 on:** 23 August 2011, 12:15:04 »

This is a long time running joke with some friends but I think it fits your profile pretty well, other then not have hardened armor that is. It's primary purpose is to provide a tactical option that isn't available for any other mech.

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: The Frenchmen TFM-DBxa
Mass: 100 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Endo Steel 14 5.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 5 LA, 3 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 300 Fusion 6 19.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 12 Double [24] 0 2.00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 304 pts Standard 0 19.00

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 47
Center Torso (Rear): 14
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 41/41

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Large Laser RA 12 2 5.00
3 Medium Lasers LA 9 3 3.00
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 LB 20-X AC RT(R) 6 20 15 18.00
(Ammo Locations: 4 RA)
1 LB 20-X AC LT(R) 6 11 14.00
1 ER Large Laser CT 12 2 5.00
1 ER Medium Laser HD 5 1 1.00
CASE II Equipment: 1 1.00
(CASE II Loc: 1 RA)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 55 77 99.00
Crits & Tons Left: 1 1.00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 12,394,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,713
Cost per BV: 7,235.26
Weapon Value: 2,358 / 2,358 (Ratio = 1.38 / 1.38)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 34; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 4/2/1, Overheat: 2
Class: MA; Point Value: 17

LastChanceCav · « **Reply #22 on:** 23 August 2011, 12:20:29 »

Quote from: Grave on 23 August 2011, 00:42:15

[applause]

Points for stoicfaux posting the first mech that can actually fire more than 50% of its' primary weaponry without shutting down, lol.

I love these designs so far, btw.

The one I linked to (now posted below) easily met that criteria too:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             19(38)                    9.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 2 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 307                 19.50
    CASE Locations: RT, RA                                                 0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           47        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  15        
                                           L/R Torso     21           32        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10        
                                             L/R Arm     17           34        
                                             L/R Leg     21           42        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gauss Rifle                                  RA        1         6        12.00
2 ER PPCs                                    LA        30        4        12.00
Ammo (Gauss Rifle) 16                        RT        -         2         2.00
LRM-20                                       RT        6         4         5.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           RT        -         1         1.00
Ammo (LRM-20 (Artemis)) 18                   RT        -         3         3.00
2 Medium Pulse Lasers                        LT        8         2         4.00
Targeting Computer                           LT        -         6         6.00
Ammo (Gauss Rifle) 8                         HD        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 35
3          8       8       6       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, IF 1

Triple, Clantech-headcappers tied to a TC should put the fear in people.

Cheers,
LCC

stoicfaux · « **Reply #23 on:** 23 August 2011, 19:15:02 »

Quote from: Prince of Darkness on 23 August 2011, 09:29:10

If only he'd remembered to use Hardened armor instead... ;D

Doh! Fortunately switching to an XL engine solves that problem. (And doubles the price... *grumble*)

Atlas - EoW - Proposed - RTFM

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-D-D
Production Year: 0
Cost: 23,689,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,393

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Patchwork
Armament:
2 ER PPCs
2 Gauss Rifles
2 LRM-10s
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 152 points 5.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 2 LA, 2 RA
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 300 9.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00
Heat Sink Locations: 2 LA, 2 RA
Gyro: Standard 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Patchwork AV - 244 26.50
CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head (Hardened Armor) 3 9
Center Torso (Hardened Armor) 31 25
Center Torso (rear) 12
Left Torso (Hardened Armor) 21 25
Left Torso (rear) 10
Right Torso (Hardened Armor) 21 25
Right Torso (rear) 10
Left Arm (Hardened Armor) 17 22
Right Arm (Hardened Armor) 17 22
Left Leg (Ferro-Fibrous) 21 42
Right Leg (Ferro-Fibrous) 21 42

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gauss Rifle RT 1 6 12.00
LRM-10 RT 4 1 2.50
Gauss Rifle LT 1 6 12.00
LRM-10 LT 4 1 2.50
ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00
ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00
@Gauss Rifle (16) RT - 2 2.00
@LRM-10 (12) RT - 1 1.00
@Gauss Rifle (16) LT - 2 2.00
@LRM-10 (12) LT - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 8 Points: 34
3 5 6 6 0 4 0 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, LRM 1/1/1, IF 1

Diablo48 · « **Reply #24 on:** 24 August 2011, 00:23:13 »

Quote from: Grave on 23 August 2011, 09:23:00

True, but yours doesn't even have the long range capability of the old D class variants - which had an LRM 20 as opposed to a single ERLL - and doesn't use hardened armor, two of the requested specs for the machine. Yours is good for the role you designed it for, but I don't see it as really following the design rules of the contest as posted.

The LRM 20 averages 12 damage in 5 point clusters and runs out of ammo quickly with the pitiful reserves on the Atlas, so I would say the ERLL is a wash with 2 less damage in a single large group, more range, and no ammo limitations.

Also, FL armor is fairly close to hardened in that it provides more than maximum protection, except it works better because it does not hamstring your movement and provides better protection per ton. It also has the unique ability to totally ignore LBX clusters and halves the damage from infantry and SRMs which provides a disproportionate benefit for an urban combat unit that is more likely to run into these weapons than long ranged sluggers.

Marwynn · « **Reply #25 on:** 24 August 2011, 00:42:08 »

Well, to make it truly disgusting, we have to go with Clantech.

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Atlas IIC (EoW)

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 23,834,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,191
================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                   152 points                5.00
    Internal Locations: 1 LT, 3 LA, 3 RA
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5 (4)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             16(32)                    6.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Arm Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
    Leg Actuators:      L: (A)H+UL+LL+F    R: (A)H+UL+LL+F
Armor:              Hardened                     AV - 304                 38.00
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           46        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  15        
                                           L/R Torso     21           32        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10        
                                             L/R Arm     17           34        
                                             L/R Leg     21           41        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HAG-30                                       RT        6         8        13.00
LRM-15                                       LT        5         2         3.50
Large Pulse Laser                            RA        10        2         6.00
Large Pulse Laser                            LA        10        2         6.00
@HAG-30 (8)                                  CT        -         2         2.00
@HAG-30 (8)                                  RT        -         2         2.00
@LRM-15 (16)                                 LT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     15    Points: 32
3          6       5       5       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, IF 1, FLK 2/2/2

It's a no-brainer alpha striker, only overheating on a run. Faster 'Mechs can't hide behind their movement mods thanks to the Large Pulse Lasers, the LRMs provide some minelaying opportunities should you feel the need to, and the HAG-30 gets fairly good at close range.

Full Hardened Armour keeps it well protected, and the Hip actuators are Armoured, so it stays upright for longer.

Version two:

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Atlas IIC (EoW 2)

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 24,858,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,177

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                   152 points                5.00
    Internal Locations: 1 LT, 3 LA, 3 RA
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5 (4)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             18(36)                    8.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            (A) Standard                                           4.00
    Arm Actuators:      L: (A)SH+UA+LA+H    R: (A)SH+UA+LA+H
    Leg Actuators:      L: (A)H+UL+LL+F    R: (A)H+UL+LL+F
Armor:              Hardened                     AV - 304                 38.00
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           46        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  15        
                                           L/R Torso     21           32        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10        
                                             L/R Arm     17           34        
                                             L/R Leg     21           41        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HAG-30                                       RT        6         8        13.00
LRM-15                                       LT        5         2         3.50
ER Large Laser                               RA        12        1         4.00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        1         4.00
@HAG-30 (8)                                  CT        -         2         2.00
@HAG-30 (8)                                  RT        -         2         2.00
@LRM-15 (16)                                 LT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     15    Points: 32
3          5       5       5       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, IF 1, FLK 2/2/2

Same heat curve, greater range but with less accuracy all for an armoured cockpit and shoulder actuators.

Grave · « **Reply #26 on:** 24 August 2011, 10:55:14 »

BTW, for all those curious, regarding cERPPCS + Capacitors:

Quote from: Chunga on 24 August 2011, 10:43:38

It is my understanding at this time that for a Mixed Tech design, anything goes, so yes you can have a Clan ERPPC and Capacitor.

I may change this ruling at a later date.

provisionally, yay! [drool]

va_wanderer · « **Reply #27 on:** 24 August 2011, 11:07:04 »

I decided to go with something that would actually be a relative "dregs" refit.

Take an old, standard, not even Royal Atlas chassis.

Refit it with Clan weaponry and armor. Basically a class C refit to give you something that can deliver on the modern battlefield that's reasonably durable, if a bit ammo-dependant.

And it can make things explode by looking at them since I stuck a Streak-4 in the eye sockets. Whee! It'll overheat if alpha-striking, but only when the Streaks actually get a lock-on. Otherwise, blaze away with the HAG-30, LRM 20, and dual ER larges all day.

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Atlas-D (Clan Refit) AS7-DC

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 11,200,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,975

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  HAG-30
    2  ER Large Lasers
    1  LRM-20
    1  Streak SRM-6
    1  Streak SRM-4
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      19.00
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             19(38)                    9.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 307                 16.00
    Armor Locations: 1 LT, 3 LA, 3 RA
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           48        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  14        
                                           L/R Torso     21           32        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10        
                                             L/R Arm     17           34        
                                             L/R Leg     21           42        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Streak SRM-4                                 HD        3         1         2.00
HAG-30                                       RT        6         8        13.00
LRM-20                                       LT        6         4         5.00
Streak SRM-6                                 LT        4         2         3.00
ER Large Laser                               RA        12        1         4.00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        1         4.00
@HAG-30 (16)                                 RT        -         4         4.00
@LRM-20 (18)                                 LT        -         3         3.00
@Streak SRM-6 (15)                           LT        -         1         1.00
@Streak SRM-4 (25)                           LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 30
3          6       6       4       0      4     0   Structure:  8
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, LRM 1/1/1, IF 2, FLK 2/2/2

Having to drop it down to hardened armor for the challenge made it a little less flavorful, sadly. Least now it can take 40 damage anywhere on the front...

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Atlas-D (Clan Refit) 2 AS7-DC2

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 10,888,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,590

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h (43.2 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Hardened
Armament:
    1  HAG-20
    2  ER Large Lasers
    1  LRM-20
    1  Streak SRM-6
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      19.00
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5 (4)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             18(36)                    8.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Hardened                     AV - 192                 24.00
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           30        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     21           25        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  6         
                                             L/R Arm     17           20        
                                             L/R Leg     21           22        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HAG-20                                       RT        4         6        10.00
LRM-20                                       LT        6         4         5.00
Streak SRM-6                                 LT        4         2         3.00
ER Large Laser                               RA        12        1         4.00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        1         4.00
@HAG-20 (18)                                 RT        -         3         3.00
@LRM-20 (18)                                 LT        -         3         3.00
@Streak SRM-6 (15)                           LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 14

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 26
3          5       5       4       0      4     0   Structure:  8
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA, LRM 1/1/1, IF 2, FLK 2/2/2

Feign · « **Reply #28 on:** 25 August 2011, 08:08:10 »

Quote from: Grave on 24 August 2011, 10:55:14

BTW, for all those curious, regarding cERPPCS + Capacitors:

provisionally, yay! [drool]

Yeah, I saw that, the ruling pretty much changes my entry... to exactly the entries that were posted immediately after it. :P