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Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« on: 03 January 2017, 14:37:44 »
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #1 on: 03 January 2017, 14:42:05 »
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #2 on: 03 January 2017, 14:58:12 »
Here's the captured body of the German Panzer E-100 super-heavy tank.



Unlike the Maus, this boondoggle never actually reached the functioning prototype stage.
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #3 on: 03 January 2017, 16:00:16 »
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #4 on: 03 January 2017, 16:20:14 »
A curiosity:



It's an SU-122 chassis, converted to mine roller. Not sure if Egyptian or Israeli - it's definitely a BTR APC to the right, but that looks like an Alvis Stalward to the rear left.  And the soldiers have that rough edge I wouldn't necessarily associate with Egyptian armoured corps.
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #5 on: 03 January 2017, 16:29:46 »
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #6 on: 03 January 2017, 16:37:59 »
Soviet BIS-1.
http://engineering-machine.ru/spz/brm/21-bmr-bronirovannaya-mashina-razminirovaniya.html
You'll have to run it through a translation rig but it's an interesting read.  According to the source, they didn't get developed until 1980, and spent their time in Afghanistan.  No mention of export.  I'm guessing perhaps that's where that photo's from, if there's western vehicles present - perhaps captured as the Soviets invaded, and put to local use.
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #7 on: 03 January 2017, 16:39:56 »
This needs a real Mk III.



Which is oddly damn hard to find as a picture btw.


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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #8 on: 03 January 2017, 17:31:34 »
This needs a real Mk III.



Which is oddly damn hard to find as a picture btw.
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #9 on: 03 January 2017, 17:35:32 »
found some more Mark IIIs


Crusader Mark III
Valentine Mark III
Vickers Mark III MBT

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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #10 on: 03 January 2017, 17:58:56 »
Oooo! the Vickers made it in!
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #11 on: 03 January 2017, 18:24:25 »
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #12 on: 03 January 2017, 18:53:15 »
a Mk.III that would have existed by now had we followed a different timeline..


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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #13 on: 03 January 2017, 19:15:48 »
Have some camo rather.



Indian Sherman Mk III in 1944.

Not as rare, was mostly used in Lend-Lease with Commonwealth and Soviet forces. The different Sherman Marks mostly differ in their engine - the Mk III had a (not really reliable) General Motors diesel engine, the main reason why the US Army did not use it. The only US use was with the USMC and - after taking over a few from Allied troops - in Tunisia by 1st AD.

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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #14 on: 03 January 2017, 19:25:38 »
that looks like an Alvis Stalward to the rear left
That looks to me like a BTR-60 parked between the trucks.

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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #15 on: 03 January 2017, 19:34:40 »
Panzer III in Afrika Korps colors
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #16 on: 03 January 2017, 19:39:56 »
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #17 on: 03 January 2017, 19:43:55 »
Tag, now cover as the arrow IV comes in.

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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #18 on: 03 January 2017, 20:43:08 »
This needs a real Mk III.



Which is oddly damn hard to find as a picture btw.

But is it male or female, I can not tell.

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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #19 on: 03 January 2017, 21:56:57 »
You have to peek under the treads...
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #20 on: 03 January 2017, 22:00:52 »
My suspicion is it's female, based on the size of the hole in the left-hand-side barbette.
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #21 on: 03 January 2017, 22:36:41 »
I've always liked that picture of the Crusader III, one of my absolute favorite tanks of the war.  It was quick but not overly fast and well armed (for all its flaws, the 6 pdr had good penetration and a helluva rate of fire), though it had unfortunately thin armor and some, uh, mechanical issues thanks to the desert in which it found itself.  I think that with its predatory look and sleek lines, it is one of the best looking tanks of the war.
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #22 on: 03 January 2017, 23:38:54 »
Merkava 4 hit by a friendly HE round during training. Even though the crew were unharmed, the blast peeled away a large surface of the outer spaced armour (shades of CBT ablative protection? :P)


Another Merkava 4, this one a turret that survived a frontal hit from a Kornet ATGM showing details of the spaced armour


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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #23 on: 04 January 2017, 00:37:07 »
You realize that the Armor on the Merkava is actually a NERA array...you can see the layers if you look closely.
Saying that because the equipment isn't up-to-the-minute, bleeding-edge tech therefore not a threat is like saying an M2 Browning isn't dangerous to modern infantry because it is 100 years old.

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« Reply #24 on: 04 January 2017, 01:30:00 »
Merkava 4 hit by a friendly HE round during training. Even though the crew were unharmed, the blast peeled away a large surface of the outer spaced armour (shades of CBT ablative protection? :P)

The crew survived, their underwear did not. :P
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #25 on: 04 January 2017, 01:48:28 »
It's an SU-122 chassis, converted to mine roller. Not sure if Egyptian or Israeli - it's definitely a BTR APC to the right, but that looks like an Alvis Stalward to the rear left.  And the soldiers have that rough edge I wouldn't necessarily associate with Egyptian armoured corps.
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #26 on: 04 January 2017, 01:48:50 »
a Mk.III that would have existed by now had we followed a different timeline..


yes much, much heavy armor and weapons
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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #27 on: 04 January 2017, 01:49:28 »
You realize that the Armor on the Merkava is actually a NERA array...you can see the layers if you look closely.

Whoops, I always get the two mixed up. Space is usually pretty important to NERA arrays too  #P

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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #28 on: 04 January 2017, 03:52:57 »
My suspicion is it's female, based on the size of the hole in the left-hand-side barbette.
It's a female, although not just based on the size of the hole, but instead the shape of the entire sponson. Male sponsons on the Mk I, Mk II and Mk III had a single barbette set within a sponson that sloped back at about 20° angle all the way from the hull to the outer edge; the female sponsoon as seen instead was more rectangular, also since it accomodated two barbettes (which can also be guessed in the picture).

On the Mk IV and following models it's even easier to differentiate simply for the size of the sponson. Females got a lot smaller sponsons.

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Re: Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III
« Reply #29 on: 04 January 2017, 12:53:50 »
yes much, much heavy armor and weapons

It's ...It's...SUPERHETZER.... :P >:D ;D
Saying that because the equipment isn't up-to-the-minute, bleeding-edge tech therefore not a threat is like saying an M2 Browning isn't dangerous to modern infantry because it is 100 years old.

 

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