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I was having a discussion regarding the Atlas II with an acquaintance, and during that conversation, I brought up (what I thought) was the first mention of the Atlas II, waaaaay back in the Star League sourcebook from 1988.

Well...after looking through the SL sourcebook last night...I can't find a mention of it.  I seem to recall that the Wolverine II was also mentioned in the same spot, and I believe that it might have been a short fiction piece in one of the older sourcebooks, but now I am drawing a complete blank.  Does this ring a bell with anyone?

I realize that the Atlas II was not statted out until TRO3075; the reference that I am looking for is much older than that.  By the same token, it's not OTP: Widowmaker Absorption that I am thinking about, either.

So, basically, I am summoning Roosterboy and any other longtime players who might be able to shed some light on this one.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #1 on: 06 October 2017, 10:09:39 »
Earliest that I'M aware of personally was the odd reference to one in the Jade Falcon Sourcebook- if there's an earlier mention I'm not aware of it (which doesn't mean it isn't out there, of course).
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #2 on: 06 October 2017, 10:25:14 »
Earliest that I'M aware of personally was the odd reference to one in the Jade Falcon Sourcebook- if there's an earlier mention I'm not aware of it (which doesn't mean it isn't out there, of course).

I had forgotten about that one, I will check it out and see if that's what I was thinking about, thanks Hellbie!
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #3 on: 06 October 2017, 10:32:28 »
I had forgotten about that one, I will check it out and see if that's what I was thinking about, thanks Hellbie!

No sweat! I don't have the page number from the office (I really should keep a copy handy here), but as I recall it's in the first couple of pages of the TO&E section of the book- I'm tempted to say it's in the Keshik section? I know when I was a kid reading that I saw that, as well as the references to the Black Lanner and Turkina, and wondered what magic was going on with those designs. The answer to the latter two was nice to finally see a few years later (not a Lanner fan still, but the Turkina was a joy to behold!). The Atlas II... that took a while longer to get answers for.  ;)
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #4 on: 06 October 2017, 10:37:31 »
No sweat! I don't have the page number from the office (I really should keep a copy handy here), but as I recall it's in the first couple of pages of the TO&E section of the book- I'm tempted to say it's in the Keshik section? I know when I was a kid reading that I saw that, as well as the references to the Black Lanner and Turkina, and wondered what magic was going on with those designs. The answer to the latter two was nice to finally see a few years later (not a Lanner fan still, but the Turkina was a joy to behold!). The Atlas II... that took a while longer to get answers for.  ;)

I think those very same thoughts bounced around in my skull at the time; those references always had me looking forward to the next book(s) coming out.
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #5 on: 06 October 2017, 10:42:48 »
Star League book released by FASA 1630.

Pg 81 - Kerensky's Flight.

"Henson spent the next half hour assisting the Techs as they powered up a Wolverine II and an Atlas II."
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #6 on: 06 October 2017, 10:50:15 »
Star League book released by FASA 1630.

Pg 81 - Kerensky's Flight.

"Henson spent the next half hour assisting the Techs as they powered up a Wolverine II and an Atlas II."

Hammer, that's the one, thank you very much!
*shakes head at missing that one when thumbing through it last night*
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #7 on: 06 October 2017, 11:03:10 »
It's in a sidebar, iirc, which might make it a bit tougher to find.
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #8 on: 06 October 2017, 13:30:52 »
It's in a sidebar, iirc, which might make it a bit tougher to find.

Thanks for the heads up, Kit!  Will keep that in mind when I scour the book with a more focused eye this evening.
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #9 on: 06 October 2017, 17:09:29 »
Sourcebooks published before The Star League

1604 - Battledroids / BattleTech, Second Edition
1605 - Tales of the Black Widow
1606 - The Fox's Teeth
1607 - MechWarrior: The BattleTech Roleplaying Game
1608 - CityTech
1609 - AeroTech
1611 - BattleForce
1612 - The Succession Wars
1613 - The Galtor Campaign
1614 - Cranston Snord's Irregulars
1616 - The Mercenary's Handbook
1617 - The Gray Death Legion
1619 - Dropships and Jumpships
1620-1624 - House books
1625 - BattleTech Reinforcements
1626 - BattleTech Manual: The Rules of Warfare
1627 - Sorenson's Sabres
1629 - The Periphery
8603 - TRO: 3025
8604 - The Spider and the Wolf
8606 - TRO: 3026
8611 - Shrapnel (?)

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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #10 on: 06 October 2017, 17:36:29 »
It's in a sidebar, iirc, which might make it a bit tougher to find.
While it is a side bar, its a full page one.
The quote Hammer gave is on the left column, fourth paragraph.

What's weird, is in the 20-some years I've had that book, the II indicators never caught my eye. And I know I've read that sidebar numerous times.

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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #11 on: 12 October 2017, 20:14:24 »
The AS7-RS is statted out in RS:3039, but that there is a reference to a variant with 2 large lasers in TRO 3025 Revised, and presumably the original TRO 3025.

It's not a reference to "Atlas II," but it describing an Atlas that sounds a lot like an Atlas II.  TRO 3025 came out in 1986, and the revised version in 1996.
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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #12 on: 12 October 2017, 23:42:45 »
the Tukayyid scenario book included the Atlas II as one of the random role mechs for the clans in the force building section.

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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #13 on: 13 October 2017, 02:08:35 »
the Tukayyid scenario book included the Atlas II as one of the random role mechs for the clans in the force building section.

Wasn't that the Atlas-C?


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Re: Looking for a reference to the first mention of the Atlas II
« Reply #15 on: 16 October 2017, 14:21:55 »
Star League book released by FASA 1630.

Pg 81 - Kerensky's Flight.

"Henson spent the next half hour assisting the Techs as they powered up a Wolverine II and an Atlas II."
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