New Unseen Minis from Combat Manuals

[Suups]

Question, for anyone who can answer it:

Is there any official/confirmed information on the current state of the remaining Unseen redesigns from the combat manuals?  Specifically the Marauder and Warhammer.  Are they indefinitely postponed thanks to the latest Harmony Gold shenanigans, or is there some info I'm missing out on?

[worktroll]

There is no official statement regarding these. It's probably - purely a personal opinion - unwise for anyone in CGL to say anything while legal action is pending. But I am definitely not a lawyer.

[Geont]

If I were in CGL position then I wouldn't release any info about minis mentioned in current HG law suit as this could be seen negatively during trial and if it went badly for CGL then fans respond would be very bitter. Now we can hope that it will go smoothly for CGL and we get these minis after law suit ends. These would be great as reinforcement lance packs.

[Suups]

That's a real shame but pretty much what I expected.

Thanks!

[Juodas Varnas]

I'm more interested in where's Scorpion and Goliath (and the rest of the Ost mechs)!

Since they shouldn't be affected by the lawsuit (since Scorpion and Goliath are from Dougram) but are suspiciously absent from those new boxes we've been shown.

[worktroll]

Again, I have absolutely no privileged info. But it's possible they're hanging onto all developments other than those that got out beforehand, and just aren't going to touch the whole thing until they know exactly what they can do.

[Azakael]

I'm more interested in where's Scorpion and Goliath (and the rest of the Ost mechs)!

Since they shouldn't be affected by the lawsuit (since Scorpion and Goliath are from Dougram) but are suspiciously absent from those new boxes we've been shown.

My two cents? Likely harder to do quads as a single piece mini as I suspect the new box minis will be.

[pheonixstorm]

WT thats fine for anything RT related, but what of the rest?? The OSTs aren't unseen (just ugly) and the Goliath/Scorpion are from another series entirely.

Though would be nice to know whats the story for the Wasp, P Hawk, Valk as they are not involved in the current mess... But I understand the situation.

[Tymers Realm]

Have you seen the "Classic" Ostscout?
It looks a hell of a lot better than the Unseen.

[pheonixstorm]

Art looks a little better than the mini. I think it was the legs that looked a little beefy compared to the art, but I did buy two(?) with plans for 4 more.

The Shadow Hawk (metal) I still plan on buying at least a companies worth total (2 so far). Would love to get another company or two of the wasp though...

[worktroll]

Sharing the SHAD love. Just made my first one, got a couple more waiting. Simply can't stand the Reseen SHAD, so looking forward to modding one to the RAC configuration O0

[Phobos101]

Have you seen the "Classic" Ostscout?
It looks a hell of a lot better than the Unseen.

I love the art of the new ostscout, the mini ha some serious proportional issues though.

[Suups]

I've liked all of the new designs shown in the combat manuals, despite some minor issues (like the wolverine's chin turret).  The Ostscout is a particular favourite, because it just looks GOOD, especially when the original is pug fugly.

WT thats fine for anything RT related, but what of the rest?? The OSTs aren't unseen (just ugly) and the Goliath/Scorpion are from another series entirely.

Though would be nice to know whats the story for the Wasp, P Hawk, Valk as they are not involved in the current mess... But I understand the situation.

Wait, are the Wasp Phoenix Hawk and Valkyrie seriously not part of the lawsuit?  All three are unaltered copies of different Macross Valkyries.  They didn't even change the name of the Valkyrie lol.

[MarauderD]

I love the art of the new ostscout, the mini ha some serious proportional issues though.

I like the new Ostscout art as well. Such a huge improvement over the original art, IMO.

Because the Ostroc and Ostsol are an integral part of the 3025 scene, I would love to see new art for them as well. I thought the Project Phoenix versions were quite good, too. But if we could see new art in the vein of the new Ostscout, yes please!

[Pat Payne]

Wait, are the Wasp Phoenix Hawk and Valkyrie seriously not part of the lawsuit?  All three are unaltered copies of different Macross Valkyries.  They didn't even change the name of the Valkyrie lol.

In fairness, the Valkyrie was very heavily changed, IMO, to where it bears only superficial similarities to the original Macross mecha. The other two also have substantial changes (though it'll be up to a court to decide if we fans lucked out and the changes are substantial enough to pass the "seven changes" test)

And the name Valkyrie is pretty common, and well-nigh untrademarkable. Kawamori has been very open in saying he named the VF-1 in honor of the the XB-70 Valkyrie experimental supersonic bomber from the '60s.

[glitterboy2098]

Wait, are the Wasp Phoenix Hawk and Valkyrie seriously not part of the lawsuit?  All three are unaltered copies of different Macross Valkyries.  They didn't even change the name of the Valkyrie lol.

none of those had been released to the public yet when the lawsuit was filed, so only the archer and warhammer (IIRC) were available for HG to include. however the results of the lawsuit would apply to all the macross-unseen derived classics, even if not explicitly mentioned.

[pheonixstorm]

No the Wasp and P Hawk are in the source materials listed in the docket.

[glitterboy2098]

last i'd looked it hadn't been. guess HG updated since.

[Bosefius]

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