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What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« on: 28 November 2011, 17:01:57 »
So we know that there are traits that every Clan prizes in its warriors.  Skill.  Strength.  Honor.  But we also know that not every Clan's idea of which traits are most important is the same as that held by others.  The Ghost Bears' devotion to strength has affected their aerospace pilot phenotypes;  the Cloud Cobras don't graduate warriors until they are 22 or so, providing them with an expanded education before their service as warriors of the Clan begins.  The Horses seem to see warfare as much more of a team effort than other Clans do.

I'm curious to know what the Clanners here think.  What, in the view of your Clan , makes the ideal warrior?  What traits are emphasized?  How should one approach battle, mentally and philosophically?  How is your Clan's ideal different from that of other Clans, and why is it better?

Do you even follow your Clans beliefs regarding this?  Would you be considered a maverick within your Clan?  Why?

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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #1 on: 28 November 2011, 20:37:22 »
What makes a warrior of Clan Star Adder?

Adder warriors are more than just lone warriors, they are soldiers or commanders operating as part of a larger army.  A good Adder warrior understands both tactics and strategy and prepares for battle with the latter in mind.  They are much more pragmatic than their rivals and will use this trait to their advantage.  While their rivals will wax poetic about the greatness and superiority that will bring them victory, the Adder warrior studies the coming fight, trains, and prepares to meet the task at hand.

The Adder warrior works with his clan to achieve victory and does not do things to the detriment of the greater victory of the clan as a whole.

I like to follow this trend.  I played Smoke Jaguar before and the Adders are so remarkably different.  I think the Adders are closer to what the Kerensky's set out to create than many of the other clans.

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« Reply #2 on: 28 November 2011, 22:03:29 »
What makes a Falcon Warrior?

The utter conviction of his belief in his own awesomeness.
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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #3 on: 28 November 2011, 22:57:01 »
Hmm, a Nova Cat warrior.

Adaptability, tempered aggression, and the ability to be take a kick to the groin ... hard ... repeatedly.  ::)

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« Reply #4 on: 28 November 2011, 23:00:50 »
Hmm, a Nova Cat warrior.

Adaptability, tempered aggression, and the ability to be take a kick to the groin ... hard ... repeatedly.  ::)

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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #5 on: 28 November 2011, 23:06:08 »
To make a Clan Wolf warrior you must start with the a lot of ingredients.

Attitude of a Jade Falcon
Brotherhood of the Ghost Bear
Martial talent of the Blood Spirit
Social skills of a Shark Merchant or Raven Diplomat
Strategic flexability of a Star Adder

All these & more go into the making of a Clan Wolf Warrior.

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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #6 on: 29 November 2011, 00:01:22 »
More seriously, I'd note Nova Cat warriors tend to have an extra point of edge over other Clans. A bit ironic when you consider their fortunes as a whole.

Less meta, I think the Nova Cats value those who know when to play their hunches. Tactics, skill and knowledge have their place, but nothing helps more then ducking at the last second before that sniper fires.

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« Reply #7 on: 30 November 2011, 18:39:10 »
Yes, the luck of the Nova Cat is legendary.  As a result, most of our warriors tend to over compensate with massive firepower.  That 'thousand yard stare' isn't just descriptive decoration, we saw that sniper a long time before he was ready to pick a target.

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« Reply #8 on: 30 November 2011, 19:55:05 »
While I'm not an expert, I'm gonna try my hand at this.  Better Sharks than me, feel free to correct me in any way appropriate.

To be a Diamond Shark, it takes the realization that, even if the Warrior is the pinnacle of society, the warrior is nothing without the support of the other castes.  Therefore, it is imperative to go out and keep all the people well supplied.  Without a careful knowledge of resource management and a willingness for compromise and some cooperation, you are going nowhere fast.
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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #9 on: 30 November 2011, 20:16:54 »
its your opinion, you can never be corrected on your opinion.

that being said i'll opt for hell's horses and i think the quote in my sig is a good place to start:

"Warriors, not war machines, are the backbone of the Hell's Horses. While others worship the BattleMech as the ultimate weapon, the men and women of this Clan see even this awesome piece of technology as the tool it is. We have held to this philosophy since the days of our first Khan, who knew that the value of the common soldier far outstripped the brute force of the BattleMech. It is one reason our Clan possesses fewer mechs than most, and has led many to underestimate our fierceness and courage. Our survival against all challengers when others have fallen proves the folly of such arrogance, and testifies to the wisdom of our founders."

that was said by tanya delaurel. I also think cooperation between all members of the clan is one of the most important aspect of horse warriors, in that every person helps them accomplish goals. The horses also seem to have an open mindedness about some things that other clans lack, though things are changing for other clans but some things just stay the same  ::)

i probably have more, but right now this was all i could think of.
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« Reply #10 on: 30 November 2011, 20:19:25 »
That respect of ALL Warriors, and the deromanticization off Mech Use is something I've always admired about the Horses.
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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #11 on: 30 November 2011, 20:23:41 »
not just warrior but other castes as well, i think it says something about that in one of the field manuals though i can't remember the exact quote of the top of my head. heck in the DA the horses can be seen playing sports with other castes, and it doesn't even seem to matter of the warriors are the ones who are losing.
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« Reply #12 on: 30 November 2011, 20:25:33 »
not just warrior but other castes as well, i think it says something about that in one of the field manuals though i can't remember the exact quote of the top of my head. heck in the DA the horses can be seen playing sports with other castes, and it doesn't even seem to matter of the warriors are the ones who are losing.

I feel like it was mentioned in Crusader Clans, but I loaned my copy of that out seven years ago and never got it returned.  The Horses are definitely in my Top Five Clans.
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« Reply #13 on: 30 November 2011, 20:36:12 »
What makes a Falcon Warrior?

The utter conviction of his belief in his own awesomeness.

Very much this.   O0
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« Reply #14 on: 01 December 2011, 03:46:37 »
That respect of ALL Warriors, and the deromanticization off Mech Use is something I've always admired about the Horses.

Same here.  When Kerensky chose the various Clan totems, I don't recall massive firepower and the ability to walk through heavy woods being among the qualities he admired.  The courage of a Wolf, the ferocity of a Smoke Jaguar, and the pride of a Falcon are qualities that a warrior possesses regardless of the machine he or she may pilot.  And conversely, no amount of omnimech technology will confer these qualities on someone who lacks them.

A warrior lays his life down for the other castes, and in this respect the lowliest rifleman is the equal of a 'mechwarrior or asf pilot.  The equipment is irrelevant.  I always liked the Jade Falcon's legend of Turkina - when Elizabeth Hazen is complaining that she has no 'mech, no gun, nothing, she gets a lesson in what defines a warrior.  It is not the weapons she wields, it is her acknowledgement of her role as a warrior and how that fits in the natural order of things.  The determination to do harm to one's enemy, even at the risk of one's own life, makes a warrior, whether he or she uses an omnimech, battlesuit, or a battered katana.


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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #15 on: 01 December 2011, 09:50:06 »
For a Coyote it is having more tons of weapons than tons of chassis  >:D

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« Reply #16 on: 01 December 2011, 11:15:51 »
In my eyes, there are two types of Raven warriors...

First, there is the Raven Warrior-Politian. The real fight for them is in the bid and using guile to make his opponent overconfident and beat themself.

Secondly, the is the Raven True Warrior. These are a rarer bread, they are the ones who push past all obstacles with pure talent.

Both are respected by the Ravens and both have their place in our Clan.

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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #17 on: 04 December 2011, 13:46:26 »
Burrock:  trolololololo
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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #18 on: 04 December 2011, 21:08:52 »
A true Burrock warrior requires the ability to look the other way during under-the-table dealings, the wherewithal to convincingly deny any knowledge of said dealings (that he didn't ever see), and the patience to hide his true feelings until the time is right to collapse the tunnel beneath his enemy's feet.

A true Fire Mandrill warrior has to believe more strongly in his loyalty to his Kindraa and to his own trothkin—regardless of the circumstances—than he does in anything else. He must feel superior to every other warrior in every other Kindraa, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence.

A true Ice Hellion believes that his words are stronger than the size of his chosen 'Mech might convey. And the more words, the stronger the argument. A Hellion warrior also believes being first—scoring the initial hit in a trial, arriving at dinner before everyone else, etc.—is more important than coming out ahead. For the Hellion, beating someone else to the punch is synonymous with victory.

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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #19 on: 04 December 2011, 21:13:03 »
In my eyes, there are two types of Raven warriors...
I think what you meant to say is there are two types of Raven warriors: those who like Neil Diamond and those who don't.

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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #20 on: 04 December 2011, 21:38:21 »
A true Burrock warrior requires the ability to look the other way during under-the-table dealings, the wherewithal to convincingly deny any knowledge of said dealings (that he didn't ever see), and the patience to hide his true feelings until the time is right to collapse the tunnel beneath his enemy's feet.

Well if you HAVE to put it that way....   :D ;)
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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #21 on: 04 December 2011, 21:46:45 »
Well if you HAVE to put it that way....   :D ;)
The first two parts of that is meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but the last part was intended to be inspiring, especially given the Burrock write-up in KLONDIKE: their position shifted in the winds in such as way that none of the other Clans could ever really pin them down.


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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #22 on: 06 December 2011, 20:47:17 »
So, no one else has any more?

Okay, here's a few others, one for each of the invading Clans:

A true Jade Falcon warrior is proud and must adhere to tradition, even when it seems contrary to what is beneficial to the Clan or to the warrior himself. Of course, tradition may be broken when necessary or when one feels it is in the best interest of the Clan; the Jade Falcon responsible will claim the broken tradition has been tradition all along and thus no traditions were broken, and he will face a Trial of Refusal against anyone who seeks to prove him wrong. The Falcon is proud to a fault, and even when beaten he still clings to the sustaining belief that he is among the greatest warriors of all the Clans.

A true Smoke Jaguar warrior must not be afraid to get blood on her hands; in fact, drawing blood is a requirement for most Smoke Jaguar traditions, even when bloodshed would seem unnecessary or wasteful to another Clan. Blood gives a Jaguar strength, for a warrior who can prevail even when wounded is a fearsome warrior indeed.

A true Ghost Bear warrior places her Clan above all else. She is not a solitary warrior who hunts alone; she belongs to a den, a family, and she will do everything in her power to preserve that familial bond, even unto death. She is the den mother, waiting for the perfect moment to strike in defense of her home or those under the aegis of her protection. Some may mistake this patience as being dull-witted, but she will always catch the unwary off guard the moment they underestimate her real potential.

A true Wolf warrior does not hold to tradition for the sake of tradition. Instead he does not do what is accepted but what is RIGHT. He views everything with context. If an enemy leaves their flank exposed, the Wolf will attack it. If the enemy advances toward him, the Wolf will charge forward with fists and feet. The Wolf must always be alert, for what is right for one engagement may be wrong the next.

A true Steel Viper is on a mission that no one else understands. In addition to being a proud, genetically-bred soldier without parallel, his life's goal is to show the other Clans—and eventually the conquered populace of the Inner Sphere—that he alone is capable of being an exemplar of the Founder's true will. He believes others will one day look at him and see the truth, that a Star League wherein the Clans and the Spheroids coexist is an attainable future.

A true Nova Cat warrior views the world through both an internal and an external filter. She knows that the external can affect the internal and vice versa, and she is attuned to the subtleties of this symbiosis. Some may see her as a prophet or a soothsayer, but she is neither: she is able to better predict the future because she pays closer attention to what the world and her subconscious is telling her, and she uses this knowledge to forge herself into a stronger and better-equipped instrument of warfare.
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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #23 on: 06 December 2011, 21:47:54 »
A true Wolf warrior....fleas....

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« Reply #24 on: 07 December 2011, 19:56:44 »
Joechummer, those are awesome.
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« Reply #25 on: 07 December 2011, 20:18:51 »
The first two parts of that is meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but the last part was intended to be inspiring, especially given the Burrock write-up in KLONDIKE: their position shifted in the winds in such as way that none of the other Clans could ever really pin them down.

I actually like what you said.
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« Reply #26 on: 07 December 2011, 23:05:58 »
Joechummer, those are awesome.
Thanks. I can get around to all of them when I have a moment.


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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #27 on: 07 December 2011, 23:34:48 »
A Warrior of the Hell's Horses remembers the truth of war. Machines provide great and fearsome power, but it is the warriors controlling them that fight the battle. Give a coward a 'mech and he will flee danger, but a warrior will find a way to prevail. While the other Clans may claim glory from the weapons they forge, the Horses work to create better Warriors . And above all, a Warrior of the Hell's Horses fights with the certainty that while the Jaguar are feirce, the Ravens are crafty, and the Falcons are proud, Horses always have a Star of Elemntals at their back!
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« Reply #28 on: 08 December 2011, 07:34:43 »
Thanks. I can get around to all of them when I have a moment.

Cool, I am looking forward to that.


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Re: What makes a warrior of Clan ______?
« Reply #29 on: 13 December 2011, 19:40:13 »
What makes a Falcon Warrior?

The utter conviction of his belief in his own awesomeness.

Boom, end of thread right there, folks, lol.
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