Author Topic: new Warhammer at GenCon 2015 (Read 21954 times)

hauptmann fanjoy · « **on:** 03 August 2015, 04:51:24 »

At GenCon this year, Phlop and I were honored to get an opportunity to paint prototypes of the new Warhammer. Here's a quick pic of them together in the display case. Phlop did the SoL one, and I did the Wolf's Dragoons one.

mcjomar · « **Reply #1 on:** 03 August 2015, 05:57:47 »

This is absolutely glorious.
How/when will these be produced for public consumption?

And are some of those icons freehand?
Very nice work - I like the highlighting on the WD one - gives it a little of that worn-edge been in battle sort of look.

TheMaster1955 · « **Reply #2 on:** 03 August 2015, 07:26:28 »

very cool O0 O0 O0

wolfspider · « **Reply #3 on:** 03 August 2015, 07:48:44 »

I want to see what a certain Blue and gold and red and black Archer will look like now! Great job on the hammers! O0

God and Davion · « **Reply #4 on:** 03 August 2015, 08:11:15 »

Great work! The minis look gorgeous! O0 O0

Vash The Stampede · « **Reply #5 on:** 03 August 2015, 08:50:18 »

I've been following CBT on Facebook, and from the sounds of it, many of the unseen will be getting the same treatment. The newest interstellar operations book has the "seen" Battlemaster on its front. I'm saving until these mechs get into full miniature production, then the arms race begins

Absolutely love that new Warhammer!

klarg1 · « **Reply #6 on:** 03 August 2015, 10:19:40 »

Catalyst had a banner featuring the Warhammer in their booth. You could also see the re-designed Marauder, Shadowhawk and Griffin in the background. It was hard to see full details in the background 'mechs, but they looked promising.

mdauben · « **Reply #7 on:** 03 August 2015, 11:36:25 »

Those are just sooooo lovely! [applause]

Archer77 · « **Reply #8 on:** 03 August 2015, 11:51:57 »

Rights when I thought I wouldn't be buying any new minis....
Can't wait for an Archer O0

Mech42ace · « **Reply #9 on:** 03 August 2015, 13:01:24 »

That is one beautiful rendition of the old gal, can't wait to get a few of these in hand. [drool]

Vash The Stampede · « **Reply #10 on:** 03 August 2015, 13:02:42 »

Quote from: Mech42ace on 03 August 2015, 13:01:24

That is one beautiful rendition of the old gal, can't wait to get a few of these in hand. [drool]

With you on that! I want a full lance

beachhead1985 · « **Reply #11 on:** 03 August 2015, 15:20:55 »

let the good times roll!

if these come out in plastic, we will need an individual plastics ordering system.

Nastyogre · « **Reply #12 on:** 03 August 2015, 18:39:10 »

Quote from: Vash The Stampede on 03 August 2015, 13:02:42

With you on that! I want a full lance

Lances? Bah! I want companies of them! You know you do too. Star League tactics! MonoCulture baby!

Vash The Stampede · « **Reply #13 on:** 03 August 2015, 19:25:39 »

Quote from: Nastyogre on 03 August 2015, 18:39:10

Lances? Bah! I want companies of them! You know you do too. Star League tactics! MonoCulture baby!

LOL you are most correct! A company + of these monsters would be a awesome, especially a special command unit of the re-re-seen Beemer

jimdigris · « **Reply #14 on:** 04 August 2015, 07:57:50 »

agen2 · « **Reply #15 on:** 04 August 2015, 10:42:16 »

[drool]
Thanks x sharing.

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #16 on:** 04 August 2015, 20:52:22 »

A reimagined Battlemaster doesn't seem needed in my opinion. The new BM looks just like the unseen only better.

DaveMac · « **Reply #17 on:** 05 August 2015, 02:22:51 »

[applause]

Spenetrator · « **Reply #18 on:** 05 August 2015, 02:51:35 »

Loving these! Wonder what the ETA on release is?

Komodo-1970 · « **Reply #19 on:** 05 August 2015, 09:23:49 »

Quote from: beachhead1985 on 03 August 2015, 15:20:55

let the good times roll!

if these come out in plastic, we will need an individual plastics ordering system.

I think revised plastic is the plan for these. It's a Catalyst product, and Catalyst does not do metal, so inshallah, they will be plastic like the Lance Packs!

Vash The Stampede · « **Reply #20 on:** 05 August 2015, 09:29:22 »

Quote from: Komodo-1970 on 05 August 2015, 09:23:49

I think revised plastic is the plan for these. It's a Catalyst product, and Catalyst does not do metal, so inshallah, they will be plastic like the Lance Packs!

My wallet will hate me for sure! ;D

nckestrel · « **Reply #21 on:** 05 August 2015, 09:33:27 »

They will be plastic first, then metal. Loren suggested such at Gencon, and Ray just said for sure in another thread here.

Nastyogre · « **Reply #22 on:** 05 August 2015, 13:24:34 »

Hopefully we see all of the original 16. Most of the others are OK. Though I think the Hellhound, Vixen, Goshawk and Peregrine replacements are pretty terrible. Most of the IIC's are acceptable.

Ending the Unseen idea would be really good and allow the game and community to move forward fully. I applaud Catalyst's efforts. (and Topps because there is no way this is done with out the Baseball Card Overlords approving) Can't wait to be able to get them and see what might be next (The bugs, Valkyrie and the classic mediums please!)

The_Livewire · « **Reply #23 on:** 06 August 2015, 20:45:52 »

Given my love for the Wolverine II, I'm wondering what the Seenverine will look like...

Vash The Stampede · « **Reply #24 on:** 07 August 2015, 09:50:11 »

Quote from: The_Livewire on 06 August 2015, 20:45:52

Given my love for the Wolverine II, I'm wondering what the Seenverine will look like...

That will be interesting to see. The Wolvie II looks very close to its unseen counterpart, albeit some differences like it's right arm gun that looks as though it came from an unseen P-hawk. Very cool mini I agree. Maybe the Seenverine will bear a more retro look, maybe taking inspiration from the Prim-Thunderbolt (my guess since both unseen designs shared a similar chassis with the lower body)

M4cr0Dutch · « **Reply #25 on:** 08 August 2015, 07:14:00 »

I have been waiting half my life for these to come out. I had a lance on back order from a company called Military Simulations in the mid 90's, and the order was never delivered (...we all know why). These new sculpts look awesome, the teenager inside me is jumping for joy ;D

Daemion · « **Reply #26 on:** 10 August 2015, 08:09:34 »

How does it compare to a vintage Ral Partha Warhammer, anyway?

^-^

M4cr0Dutch · « **Reply #27 on:** 11 August 2015, 06:39:28 »

Quote from: Daemion on 10 August 2015, 08:09:34

How does it compare to a vintage Ral Partha Warhammer, anyway?

^-^

It head caps it, in my opinion. 10 to the head and 12 on the crits 8)

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #28 on:** 12 August 2015, 02:03:26 »

It won't feel the same as using my RP Hammers, but its just so sexy I don't even care. Must have a full lance of the new Warhammer sexyness [drool]

WarGod · « **Reply #29 on:** 13 August 2015, 07:14:24 »

it almost warms my cold black heart. So WHEN DO THE REST OF US GET THEM??????? When will we see new marauders? I need to know. I have pheonix warhammers, and such that need to be made into wrecks or something.

TimberWolf · « **Reply #30 on:** 13 August 2015, 08:50:34 »

Man, I can't wait to get my hands on these! And just when I was about to break down and order some of the Robotech Tactics stuff... :)

And I agree that ending the Unseen idea is a Really Good Thing.

And since I"m slowly painting my way through several different forces (the better to introduce new players with), I definitely plan on ordering several of each of the Warhammer, Marauder, and Archer (at least) so that each of my different armies can join in the fun! :D

Terrace · « **Reply #31 on:** 13 August 2015, 09:11:16 »

Is the Seen T-Bolt gonna have the cockpit on the left side? Because I heard the Reseen version had the cockpit swapped to the left side because of how the crits were laid out on the original model (LRM-15 on the right side, 3 Medium Lasers on the left) not matching up with the Unseen art (LRMs were over the left shoulder? ???).

mdauben · « **Reply #32 on:** 13 August 2015, 11:44:15 »

Quote from: beachhead1985 on 03 August 2015, 15:20:55

if these come out in plastic, we will need an individual plastics ordering system.

I'm already planning what to do with four full sets of these new "classic" mechs. Four Warhammers? Four Riflemen? Four Marauders!? Yes, please, may I have another!!! ;D

Daemion · « **Reply #33 on:** 13 August 2015, 13:32:04 »

Quote from: M4cr0Dutch on 11 August 2015, 06:39:28

It head caps it, in my opinion. 10 to the head and 12 on the crits 8)

Actually, I was hoping to see a comparison shot. Rumor has it that someone brought a vintage partha Warhammer, nicely painted up, and some shots were taken of it next to the Kerensky Warhammer WiP.

Vash The Stampede · « **Reply #34 on:** 13 August 2015, 19:48:07 »

Quote from: mdauben on 13 August 2015, 11:44:15

I'm already planning what to do with four full sets of these new "classic" mechs. Four Warhammers? Four Riflemen? Four Marauders!? Yes, please, may I have another!!! ;D

I want the Battlemaster! A company of those! One of my favorite IS assaults

RGCavScout · « **Reply #35 on:** 13 August 2015, 23:04:17 »

They are dead sexy! Give us more of all!

StCptMara · « **Reply #36 on:** 19 August 2015, 04:42:58 »

I see these..and really wonder how they handled Harmony Gold? I mean...the company that hit PGI with
a cease and desist that stopped them from making MW5 because 0fo the Warhammer in the video that
didn't look much different than this version..

beachhead1985 · « **Reply #37 on:** 20 August 2015, 15:31:09 »

Quote from: StCptMara on 19 August 2015, 04:42:58

I see these..and really wonder how they handled Harmony Gold? I mean...the company that hit PGI with
a cease and desist that stopped them from making MW5 because 0fo the Warhammer in the video that
didn't look much different than this version..

I'd been wondering about this myself.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #38 on:** 20 August 2015, 16:00:50 »

Quote from: StCptMara on 19 August 2015, 04:42:58

I see these..and really wonder how they handled Harmony Gold? I mean...the company that hit PGI with
a cease and desist that stopped them from making MW5 because 0fo the Warhammer in the video that
didn't look much different than this version..

Because Topps' lawyers bite harder than Harmony Golds' lawyers? >:D

I am Belch II · « **Reply #39 on:** 20 August 2015, 16:54:55 »

Those are great looking mini's

SteelRaven · « **Reply #40 on:** 20 August 2015, 17:07:26 »

Quote from: StCptMara on 19 August 2015, 04:42:58

I see these..and really wonder how they handled Harmony Gold? I mean...the company that hit PGI with
a cease and desist that stopped them from making MW5 because 0fo the Warhammer in the video that
didn't look much different than this version..

HG just tried to sue Hasbro over a Transformer they said looked too much like a Valkyrie and lost the argument. With talks of a Robotech movie deal, HG may be picking their battles more carefully now that they know not every legal action will be a win.

ColBosch · « **Reply #41 on:** 20 August 2015, 17:08:46 »

Quote from: StCptMara on 19 August 2015, 04:42:58

I see these..and really wonder how they handled Harmony Gold? I mean...the company that hit PGI with
a cease and desist that stopped them from making MW5 because 0fo the Warhammer in the video that
didn't look much different than this version..

This "issue" has been brought up several times, each time being told it's not something you need to be concerned about. Whatever process is being used to ensure these designs do not violate HG's copyrights is going to happen behind the scenes and not be something talked about in public.

Also, PGI wasn't hit with a C&D, to our knowledge. IGN was hit with one for hosting the proof-of-concept video for a new MechWarrior game that included artwork that HG felt violated their copyrights. This went unchallenged because it was just a prototype. That PGI decided to do "MechWarrior 5" as an online free-to-play deathmatch game was a result of their own internal decisions.

Mech42ace · « **Reply #42 on:** 20 August 2015, 17:56:54 »

Quote from: SteelRaven on 20 August 2015, 17:07:26

HG just tried to sue Hasbro over a Transformer they said looked too much like a Valkyrie and lost the argument. With talks of a Robotech movie deal, HG may be picking their battles more carefully now that they know not every legal action will be a win.

If it's a live action movie, with real people... They will more than likely have to reamp the designs to make them more realistic. (More surface details, ect. Ect.) Wouldn't it be deliciously ironic if Topps sued HG because there tomahawk looks a bit too much like our warhammer? }:)

Scotty · « **Reply #43 on:** 20 August 2015, 18:48:29 »

The ultimate irony would be if Topps/CGL licenses out the new artwork for use in Robotech stuff.

I say "ultimate irony" largely because it will never happen.

Cache · « **Reply #44 on:** 20 August 2015, 19:07:31 »

Quote from: ColBosch on 20 August 2015, 17:08:46

That PGI decided to do "MechWarrior 5" as an online free-to-play deathmatch game was a result of their own internal decisions.

The official statement from PGI was that MW5 needed to be multi-platform in order to receive necessary backing. Since Microsoft owns the rights, they appeared to be a bit hesitant to allow it on consoles other than the Xbox. (One of the first dev blogs over at MWO covered this pretty well.)

The Harmony Gold bogey-man popping up all the time does get amusing, though. I hear that if you stare into the bathroom mirror in candle light and repeat their name three times, a lawyer will appear and slap you with a C&D.

edit: found the dev blog... http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/13-dev-blog-0-reboot/

SteelRaven · « **Reply #45 on:** 20 August 2015, 19:32:48 »

Quote from: Cache on 20 August 2015, 19:07:31

The Harmony Gold bogey-man popping up all the time does get amusing, though. I hear that if you stare into the bathroom mirror in candle light and repeat their name three times, a lawyer will appear and slap you with a C&D.

Actually hear the same thing about Game Workshop, someone makes a fan site and then never heard from again #P

Back on topic:

Can't wait to see the more of the new Wammy,

Charbok · « **Reply #46 on:** 22 August 2015, 18:30:00 »

Quote from: SteelRaven on 20 August 2015, 19:32:48

Actually hear the same thing about Game Workshop, someone makes a fan site and then never heard from again #P

Back on topic:

Can't wait to see the more of the new Wammy,

I'm pretty sure after the Chapterhouse fiasco that GeeDubz are keeping their lawpack on a shorter leash. Also, those new Warhammers are sexy as all get out. Can't wait to get some.

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #47 on:** 23 August 2015, 05:32:53 »

The new warhammers are nowhere near the same so HG wouldn't have a leg to stand on anyway.

Khell · « **Reply #48 on:** 27 August 2015, 12:39:41 »

Okay...
The Warhammer looks AMAZING. How can I get it, where can I get it, WHEN can I get it?

klarg1 · « **Reply #49 on:** 27 August 2015, 12:49:40 »

Quote from: Khell on 27 August 2015, 12:39:41

Okay...
The Warhammer looks AMAZING. How can I get it, where can I get it, WHEN can I get it?

As with all things CGL: When it's done.

blackjack · « **Reply #50 on:** 27 August 2015, 23:15:30 »

Quote from: klarg1 on 27 August 2015, 12:49:40

As with all things CGL: When it's done.

Looks done to me!!!! [drool]

ijewett · « **Reply #51 on:** 28 August 2015, 00:21:31 »

I have to agree with that sentiment. Send those prototypes to the caster and get them into the store.

Mech42ace · « **Reply #52 on:** 29 August 2015, 17:25:17 »

Quote from: ijewett on 28 August 2015, 00:21:31

Send those prototypes to the caster and get them into the store.

Yes Please!

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #53 on:** 29 August 2015, 18:52:48 »

I am still impatiently waiting for this to be released.... Please hurry while I still have money to burn!!!

c_gee · « **Reply #54 on:** 01 September 2015, 11:18:32 »

Your warhammers found their way onto my terrain board at PAX15.

Also, CSO's Wackrabbit was at PAX15 and painted another one up, too.

Azakael · « **Reply #55 on:** 01 September 2015, 11:47:51 »

Maaan. We want all want one (or several...) for our own painting pleasure...

Mech42ace · « **Reply #56 on:** 01 September 2015, 17:01:17 »

Why must tptb taunt us so? :o

Komodo-1970 · « **Reply #57 on:** 02 September 2015, 05:12:52 »

Cannot wait to see the other masters! Can the Marauder be far behind? :)

Vash The Stampede · « **Reply #58 on:** 02 September 2015, 08:39:25 »

The Marauder will be an exciting piece to get! I'm happy it holds a strong resemblance to the actual unseen one, with that sort of alienish/retro-robot vibe to it.

Even the little guys (wasp, stinger, locust etc.) I'm excited about

mdauben · « **Reply #59 on:** 02 September 2015, 10:44:18 »

Quote from: Vash The Stampede on 02 September 2015, 08:39:25

The Marauder will be an exciting piece to get! I'm happy it holds a strong resemblance to the actual unseen one, with that sort of alienish/retro-robot vibe to it.

Even the little guys (wasp, stinger, locust etc.) I'm excited about

Yes, the Marauder has always been a special favorite of mine, but I'm eager for even the light mechs. I've already got two companies planned out on paper using the original TRO3025 mechs. Can't wait to get started on them! 8)

TS_Hawk · « **Reply #60 on:** 03 September 2015, 01:38:24 »

Quote from: c_gee on 01 September 2015, 11:18:32

Your warhammers found their way onto my terrain board at PAX15.

Also, CSO's Wackrabbit was at PAX15 and painted another one up, too.

And it is a beautiful terrain board to play on as well. Glad I was there and saw Wackrabbit as he painted the 3rd Whammy.

Wrangler · « **Reply #61 on:** 03 September 2015, 14:39:47 »

I can't wait till they start selling these things to the general public. Their awesome looking.

I've been thinking Hammerhands could be modded with Hector arms to resemble this. Though i think the Hector's arms though resembling the new Hammer's arms maybe too big for the Hammerhands. Except the legs wouldn't work in this case.

Thanks for sharing!

Grotonomus · « **Reply #62 on:** 15 June 2017, 15:33:13 »

Anyone know the eta on these?

Weirdo · « **Reply #63 on:** 15 June 2017, 16:08:40 »

There is no eta.

Alex Keller · « **Reply #64 on:** 17 June 2017, 12:52:48 »

It's been two years so we can infer there's been serious financial difficulty or perhaps some legal hurdles that have been delaying release. But, all good things come to those who can wait. And Battletech fans are good at that.

Cache · « **Reply #65 on:** 17 June 2017, 13:51:52 »

Quote from: Alex Keller on 17 June 2017, 12:52:48

It's been two years so we can infer there's been serious financial difficulty or perhaps some legal hurdles that have been delaying release.

We can infer nothing. You choose to speculate, that's a shame.

Nanhold · « **Reply #66 on:** 17 June 2017, 14:13:26 »

Quote from: Cache on 17 June 2017, 13:51:52

We can infer nothing. You choose to speculate, that's a shame.

Given the persistent radio silence, speculation is inevitable.

Weirdo · « **Reply #67 on:** 17 June 2017, 15:03:38 »

It's not, and I will always expect better of people.

Nanhold · « **Reply #68 on:** 17 June 2017, 15:54:15 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 17 June 2017, 15:03:38

It's not, and I will always expect better of people.

A reasonable enough thing to desire, despite the rise of social media and the misinformation merrily spread on those.

SteelRaven · « **Reply #69 on:** 17 June 2017, 16:48:10 »

How about starting a new thread regarding new classic minis vs necropost.

Nanhold · « **Reply #70 on:** 17 June 2017, 18:02:55 »

Quote from: SteelRaven on 17 June 2017, 16:48:10

How about starting a new thread regarding new classic minis vs necropost.

Doesn't seem necessary, since this thread has been reactivated and there do not seem to be strict rules against thread necromancy on this forum.

ActionButler · « **Reply #71 on:** 17 June 2017, 20:48:35 »

Necromancy is not, strictly speaking, against any rules. Forum rules, anyway, I don't speak for the laws if nature. I think they have their own modrration staff.

If people want to dabble in the dark arts of communing with dead threads, though, just remember to stay on topic.

Wrangler · « **Reply #72 on:** 18 June 2017, 15:06:36 »

Was there any sign of new Classics at Origins or they say anything being there at GenCon 2017?

Black_Knyght · « **Reply #73 on:** 22 June 2017, 01:47:33 »

Beyond teaser tidbits or the occasional picture, when it comes to the NuClassics I wouldn't recommend holding your breath...

Azakael · « **Reply #74 on:** 22 June 2017, 12:56:56 »

Quote from: Black_Knyght on 22 June 2017, 01:47:33

Beyond teaser tidbits or the occasional picture, when it comes to the NuClassics I wouldn't recommend holding your breath...

Unless you want a Shadow Hawk (2H or 2K), or an Ostscout.

sadlerbw · « **Reply #75 on:** 23 June 2017, 10:27:13 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 18 June 2017, 15:06:36

Was there any sign of new Classics at Origins or they say anything being there at GenCon 2017?

No sign of them at Origins that I saw. IWM did say they would have a con special of some sort for GenCon, but I think it was a Dark Age product of some variety. I didn't specifically ask any of the CGL folks, but you can bet your bottom dollar that, if nothing shows up, I will be asking about it at the What's up with Catalyst event at Gencon.

Alex Keller · « **Reply #76 on:** 26 June 2017, 07:42:48 »

Quote from: Cache on 17 June 2017, 13:51:52

We can infer nothing. You choose to speculate, that's a shame.

There's no shame in drawing reasonable inferences from the facts we know about a tabletop game... geez lol.

Cache · « **Reply #77 on:** 26 June 2017, 09:36:33 »

Quote from: Alex Keller on 26 June 2017, 07:42:48

There's no shame in drawing reasonable inferences from the facts we know about a tabletop game... geez lol.

The only fact is that they are not being released at this time. There are no reasonable inferences to be made from that other than they are not being released at this time.

SteelRaven · « **Reply #78 on:** 26 June 2017, 12:25:32 »

It's more likely that CGL still wants new plastic minis for the new starter/intro box but got held up along with everything else during the recent reorganization in management.

Wrangler · « **Reply #79 on:** 26 June 2017, 21:08:01 »

Is entire CGL organization getting reorganized?

nckestrel · « **Reply #80 on:** 26 June 2017, 21:16:49 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 26 June 2017, 21:08:01

Is entire CGL organization getting reorganized?

Just the BattleTech line.
Ie. The important parts of CGL :).

Alex Keller · « **Reply #81 on:** 24 July 2017, 10:29:55 »

And... My (and others') reasonable inference that legal hurdles were preventing the release of these minis was proven correct. You can apologize at any time, Cache. ;)

SteelRaven · « **Reply #82 on:** 24 July 2017, 12:31:24 »

Yeah, that's nothing really something to cheer about.

Sartris · « **Reply #83 on:** 24 July 2017, 13:10:37 »

i'd rather have concrete bad news than 1000 voices speculating about potentially bad news

Pat Payne · « **Reply #84 on:** 24 July 2017, 13:48:20 »

Quote from: Alex Keller on 24 July 2017, 10:29:55

And... My (and others') reasonable inference that legal hurdles were preventing the release of these minis was proven correct. You can apologize at any time, Cache. ;)

Can we leave the "nyah, nyah, told ya so" till later? Given what's going on, it seems in extreme poor taste right now.

Cache · « **Reply #85 on:** 24 July 2017, 16:04:53 »

Quote from: Alex Keller on 24 July 2017, 10:29:55

And... My (and others') reasonable inference that legal hurdles were preventing the release of these minis was proven correct. You can apologize at any time, Cache. ;)

How cute. Show up with doom-saying speculation and no evidence, kid, and more than a few of us are going to challenge you on it. Especially those who understand the damage that it does not only to the game, but to the community. And we won't apologize for it.

ColBosch · « **Reply #86 on:** 24 July 2017, 16:19:29 »

Any delay due to Harmony Gold is limited to this year, as they didn't send their first angry letter until mid or late December. The new Warhammer still took too long to come to market.

Alex Keller · « **Reply #87 on:** 24 July 2017, 18:44:47 »

Quote from: Cache on 24 July 2017, 16:04:53

How cute. Show up with doom-saying speculation and no evidence, kid, and more than a few of us are going to challenge you on it. Especially those who understand the damage that it does not only to the game, but to the community. And we won't apologize for it.

Classy response.

I'm a former intelligence officer and an attorney with experience in civil and patent litigation. I made a reasonable inference based on the facts publicly known to everyone, and you tell me I'm wrong. Your suggests that we cant even make a reasonable inference. I'm trying to change your perspective here, friend. We're adults. I admit when I'm wrong all the time. We should encourage each other, not shut others down.

And yeah, I'm not happy about these developments. No Battletech fan is. But at least try not to discourage others from voicing their opinions. Especially since some of them may have a different perspective.

Take care.

SteelRaven · « **Reply #88 on:** 25 July 2017, 02:24:03 »

I acknowledge your worst case scenario came true but I would hope your colorful experience would teach a little tact. The ;) was poorly timed at best considering the Wammy's just got censored once again.

beachhead1985 · « **Reply #89 on:** 28 July 2017, 18:37:58 »

Quote from: SteelRaven on 25 July 2017, 02:24:03

I acknowledge your worst case scenario came true but I would hope your colorful experience would teach a little tact. The ;) was poorly timed at best considering the Wammy's just got censored once again.

Do we have something official on that?

Sartris · « **Reply #90 on:** 28 July 2017, 18:47:11 »

Quote from: beachhead1985 on 28 July 2017, 18:37:58

Do we have something official on that?

No but the disappearance of the wasp and Valkyrie plus the total absence of macross designs in TRO:SW... and also the total stall on combat manuals indicate that while not pulled from public consumption (the art is still on the MUL), it seems any new progress on the classics has been halted while this lawsuit business is resolved

ColBosch · « **Reply #91 on:** 28 July 2017, 18:54:10 »

The new WHM was listed as example of infringement in HG's revised lawsuit. It would be foolish to release its miniature now.

abou · « **Reply #92 on:** 28 July 2017, 18:59:40 »

Quote from: ColBosch on 28 July 2017, 18:54:10

The new WHM was listed as example of infringement in HG's revised lawsuit. It would be foolish to release its miniature now.

You have to admit, it would make a great looking "bird", if you get my drift.