No RISC No Reward - playing with Hyper Lasers

[ANS Kamas P81]

Panther PNT-15KR
IS experimental
35 tons 
BV: 1,536
Cost: 5,526,810 C-bills

Movement: 5/8/4
Engine: 175 XL
Heat Sinks: 12 [24]
Gyro: XL Gyro

Internal: 58
Armor: 112/119
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               11       15
Center Torso (rear)                  4
Right Torso                 8       12
Right Torso (rear)                   4
Left Torso                  8       12
Left Torso (rear)                    4
Right Arm                   6       12
Left Arm                    6       12
Right Leg                   8       14
Left Leg                    8       14

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
RISC Hyper Laser                RA    24
SRM 4                           LT     3

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
SRM 4 Ammo                      LT    25

Equipment                      Loc
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CASE II                         LT

Tried out Megamek Lab.  Came up with something.  Enjoy.

[ANS Kamas P81]

Rifleman RFL-15S
 Mixed (Base IS)
60 tons 
BV: 2,267
Cost: 13,707,200 C-bills

Movement: 5/8
Engine: 300 XL
Heat Sinks: 24 [48]
Gyro: XL Gyro

Internal: 99
Armor: 128/201
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               20       20
Center Torso (rear)                  8
Right Torso                14       15
Right Torso (rear)                   6
Left Torso                 14       15
Left Torso (rear)                    6
Right Arm                  10       14
Left Arm                   10       14
Right Leg                  14       12
Left Leg                   14       12

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
RISC Hyper Laser                LA    24
RISC Hyper Laser                RA    24

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
CASE II                         RA
CASE II                         LA

Plink plink all the airspace belongs to ME!

[Maingunnery]

With the Panther is it possible to place the CASE II in the RA?
The SRM ammo can always be moved to the head. 

[Sharpnel]

With the Panther is it possible to place the CASE II in the RA?
The SRM ammo can always be moved to the head.

Shift the armor over to the RT and place the CASE II there. That way the torso is covered should the RA decides it wants to explode.

[ANS Kamas P81]

I didn't want to change the Punt TOO much, but yeah, the torso swap and CASE location makes perfect sense.

Now for something that makes no sense at all!

Awesome II Mek
 Mixed (Base IS)
100 tons 
BV: 2,804
Cost: 33,057,333 C-bills

Movement: 4/6
Engine: 400 XL
Heat Sinks: 32 [64]
Cockpit: Small Cockpit
Gyro: Compact Gyro

Internal: 152 (Composite)
Armor: 232/307
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               31       38
Center Torso (rear)                 11
Right Torso                21       28
Right Torso (rear)                  11
Left Torso                 21       28
Left Torso (rear)                   11
Right Arm                  17       24
Left Arm                   17       24
Right Leg                  21       24
Left Leg                   21       24

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
RISC Hyper Laser                RT    24
RISC Hyper Laser                LT    24
RISC Hyper Laser                RA    24

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
Composite                      None

A 3-3-2 firing pattern should do well, just so long as you're willing to roll anything other than a 2 or 3!

[packhntr]

EH?  Hyper Lasers?  Educate me.....

[ANS Kamas P81]

Range 25, damage 20, heat 24, explodes on a roll of 2/3.  Enjoy!

[packhntr]

Range 25, damage 20, heat 24, explodes on a roll of 2/3.  Enjoy!

Nice, but OUCH!  Unstable much?

[marauder648]

Nice, but OUCH!  Unstable much?

Very much a case of with great RISC comes great reward.

[Sartris]

I love high-risk, high-reward guns (I may be the only person on earth that likes HVACs). Huge fan of all three.

[Iceweb]

I still feel the Awesome needs the trademark small laser. 
I think a blazer cannon would fit the bill for it though :)

[Kidd]

RISC Laser explosion will do 10 damage to internal structure. So for both the Panther and Rifleman, it is pointless to put CASE II on the arms as you're losing the whole thing anyway.

[ANS Kamas P81]

CASE II explosions only do one point of IS, then vent the rest.

[Kidd]

[drool]
D'oh!

carry on...

[Col Toda]

A weapon this explosive and prone to self destruction belongs in a gun emplacement by a runway or in a support trailer . Putting it in something with an expensive engine just does not make sense .

[Sartris]

make sense .

wrong thread.

[packhntr]

I love high-risk, high-reward guns (I may be the only person on earth that likes HVACs). Huge fan of all three.

I love HVACs!!!  A HVAC-2 that can outrange an LRM.....YEAH!

[Col Toda]

I love HVACs too .  Made few nice designs for them .  To get most use of them you have to field 3/4 of your force with them . I like to do Conga Line tactics with them .  When you shoot one off you create smoke  in the hex .  Shoot then move into a hex that was occupied with one of your units that fired the HVAC the last turn .  You get a movement modifier and light smoke your unit shoot their HVAC then moves onto the next hex and so on .  With something dangerous to use it is nice to that you get something for it .  The RISC gives you range and damage  to make you consider it seriously .  When you have a HVAC  you go for the 10 for  a moving fluid battlefield and the 2 for staying in the hex and shooting far , far away .  But unlike the RISC you get smoke in which you can use in your favor . That is what makes the HVAC very attractive . I know you can have infantry use a HVAC/2 as a field piece ; Can you do the same for the RISC Hyper Laser ? Sometimes the infantry field piece has some of the weaknesses ignored . How hard is it to shoot at a field piece at a distance in smoke ? Long Range - 4 ; Smoke -1 ; and maybe size -1  ( Have to look it up ) . I have a good Idea for RISC Hyper Laser a  Defense Sat around a Olympus Recharge station .  Have it act by Drone Link . For that a matter any Drone unit sounds good for it .

[ANS Kamas P81]

how about we post RISC Hyper Laser mechs in this thread and save debate for others?

Silliness
IS experimental
25 tons 
BV: 1,704
Cost: 5,132,708 C-bills

Movement: 10/15
Engine: 250 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Cockpit: Small Cockpit
Gyro: XL Gyro

Internal: 43 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 89/89 (Heavy Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso                8       13
Center Torso (rear)                  3
Right Torso                 6       10
Right Torso (rear)                   2
Left Torso                  6       10
Left Torso (rear)                    2
Right Arm                   4        8
Left Arm                    4        8
Right Leg                   6       12
Left Leg                    6       12

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
RISC Hyper Laser                RA    24

Because uh...five million cbills for a stupid fast 20-point range 25 blaster that stands a 60% chance of firing five shots before it blows up and takes the 'Mech with it.  Okay, so only use it 2-3 times maybe, and just run around and terrorize people with its mere existence.  Seriously, that thing gives assaults pause since it can pop up anywhere and backstab from a map and a half away...

[Sartris]

This thread delivers.

[ANS Kamas P81]

This thread delivers.

At 10/15, it's delivering in 30 minutes or less!

Wolverine WVR-9MR
IS experimental
55 tons 
BV: 2,153
Cost: 11,350,856 C-bills

Movement: 5/8/5
Engine: 275 XL
Heat Sinks: 15 [30]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 91
Armor: 184/185
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               18       27
Center Torso (rear)                  8
Right Torso                13       20
Right Torso (rear)                   6
Left Torso                 13       20
Left Torso (rear)                    6
Right Arm                   9       18
Left Arm                    9       18
Right Leg                  13       26
Left Leg                   13       26

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
Streak SRM 6                    LT     4
ER Medium Laser                 HD     5
RISC Hyper Laser                RA    24

Ammo                           Loc Shots
----------------------------------------
Streak SRM 6 Ammo               LT    15

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
CASE II                         RA
CASE II                         LT

Took a basic -9M, had Fun.  Makes a hell of a swap for a (single) HPPC if you have the heat sinks.  Thought about monkeying with the SRM rack for better holepunching, but meh.

Man, one of these lasers with an SBGauss on a heavy...

[ANS Kamas P81]

I think we're actually nearing maximum levels of tables being flipped.

Oh God Why Mek
IS experimental
30 tons 
BV: 1,788
Cost: 6,684,340 C-bills

Movement: 8/12/8
Engine: 240 XL
Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Cockpit: Small Cockpit
Gyro: XL Gyro

Internal: 51 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 80/105
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               10       10
Center Torso (rear)                  3
Right Torso                 7       10
Right Torso (rear)                   3
Left Torso                  7       10
Left Torso (rear)                    3
Right Arm                   5        8
Left Arm                    5        8
Right Leg                   7        8
Left Leg                    7        8

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
RISC Hyper Laser                RA    24

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
CASE II                         RA
C3 Slave                        HD

Because hitting people at short range 25 hexes away really is just a complete **** move.

[Tyler Jorgensson]

You people are all terrible: and I approve.

Speaking of which : what book has the Lasers in them?

[ANS Kamas P81]

You people are all terrible: and I approve.

Speaking of which : what book has the Lasers in them?

Interstellar Ops.  There's other stuff too but I'm still going doololly at the lasers.

Imagine that on midrange heavy-armor ASFs to go dropper-chopping?

[Iceweb]

Because uh...five million cbills for a stupid fast 20-point range 25 blaster

If you shaved off some armor, is there room in the right arm to add an AES for the +1 to hit? 
I don't want to miss with my care bear stare.

[Sartris]

So...

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Pulse RISC
IS experimental
50 tons 
BV: 2,562
Cost: 11,457,750 C-bills

Movement: 6/9/8
Engine: 300 XL
Heat Sinks: 12 [27]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 83 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 128/169
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso               16       19
Center Torso (rear)                  6
Right Torso                12       14
Right Torso (rear)                   4
Left Torso                 12       14
Left Torso (rear)                    4
Right Arm                   8       12
Left Arm                    8       12
Right Leg                  12       18
Left Leg                   12       16

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
----------------------------------------
RISC Hyper Laser                RA    24

Equipment                      Loc
----------------------------------
AES                             RA
CASE II                         RA
Targeting Computer              RT
C3 Slave Boosted                CT
Partial Wing                    LT


[Iceweb]

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Pulse RISC

AES                             RA
CASE II                         RA
Targeting Computer              RT


Sadly you can't constuct a mech with AES and either a targeting computer or TSM. 

I know I tried that when I first started playing with AES. 

Hint AES + iATM (or Artemis V)  is nasty :)

[Major Headcase]

Why is this concept so familiar.... ?
 ;)

[Sartris]

Sadly you can't constuct a mech with AES and either a targeting computer or TSM. 

I know I tried that when I first started playing with AES. 

Hint AES + iATM (or Artemis V)  is nasty :)

how DARE they

I'd probably go back to one of my original ideas and give it
1) Angel ECM and half ton of armor
2) a Supercharger
3) two improved heavy mediums with a mixed-tech option