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Title: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: SC_Dave on 08 September 2017, 03:16:49: Is there such a beast as the Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2, and if so, what are its Alpha Strike stats?

I note that the variant gets a mention on line 21 of the Republic of the Sphere RAT in Field Manual 3145.

I can see the SHD-11CS gets a mention on Sarna.net and can be found in the MUL. If I open the SHD-11CS in the MUL the SHD-11CS2 appears in the list of other variants but if opened has no BV, PV, or Alpha Strike card. It does have faction availabilities though.
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: Geont on 08 September 2017, 03:26:21: If I remember correctly MUL has stats for units that were in TRO only. But I am not 100% sure about this.

EDIT: I take it back, there is ton of more sources for MUL.
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: Alexander Knight on 08 September 2017, 20:57:33: I'm not sure where the -11CS2 comes from. However, given the other "2" variants of CS/WoB machines, it's likely to replace the C3I with C3S and ECM.
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: SC_Dave on 09 September 2017, 02:58:28: Quote from: Alexander Knight on 08 September 2017, 20:57:33
I'm not sure where the -11CS2 comes from. However, given the other "2" variants of CS/WoB machines, it's likely to replace the C3I with C3S and ECM.

I was wondering if it might be a refit along those lines too. I had noticed, for example, the Marauder MAD-9W vs MAD-9W2.
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: Pa Weasley on 10 September 2017, 21:43:52: If memory serves, and be warned that it usually doesn't these days, the -11CS2's first published appearance was in a RAT. I don't believe its actual stats haven't been published but as Alexander Knight said, the CS2 models are typically refits of ComStar/WoB machines that yoink the C3i for ECM and and C3 slaves.
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: nckestrel on 10 September 2017, 21:53:29: FM 3145 has it in a RAT. It is just a c3i to c3 and ECM swap. It was meant for "reprint" of RS3085 that never/hasn't happened.
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: SC_Dave on 11 September 2017, 02:18:52: Quote from: nckestrel on 10 September 2017, 21:53:29
FM 3145 has it in a RAT. It is just a c3i to c3 and ECM swap. It was meant for "reprint" of RS3085 that never/hasn't happened.

Thank you for the confirmation. As the Republic of the Sphere is a growing faction in my collection it is a unit of interest to me.
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: GoldBishop on 11 September 2017, 07:51:44: ...which means it should likely be 38 PV (+1 difference due to the addition of the ECM and decrease in MHQ) but otherwise be identical to the -11CS.
[and 1779 BV2 before network multipliers]
Title: Re: Alpha Strike stats for Shadow Hawk SHD-11CS2
Post by: SC_Dave on 13 September 2017, 01:34:16: Quote from: GoldBishop on 11 September 2017, 07:51:44
...which means it should likely be 38 PV (+1 difference due to the addition of the ECM and decrease in MHQ) but otherwise be identical to the -11CS.
[and 1779 BV2 before network multipliers]

Thank you, that should provide everything needed to draw up an AS card :)