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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #30 on: 13 September 2017, 11:00:30 »
J. Edgar and Gladius.

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #31 on: 13 September 2017, 12:02:21 »
Drillson, Maxim and, Pegasus.

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #32 on: 13 September 2017, 13:09:20 »
I just love the fact the Gladius looks like a battering ram.
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #33 on: 13 September 2017, 15:11:56 »
For me it's the Saracen,  great mix of fire power, speed,and armor.
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #34 on: 13 September 2017, 16:05:32 »
I'm really surprised nobody considers the lowly Hover APC Lance of Awesomeness!

For the total BV2 of: 533, you'd get a 4/5 unit.

One gets a Sensor ( 30 remotes ), an LRM-5 and a pair of SRM-2 armed APCs WITH Infantry, Foot Platoon of Ballistic Rifle! ( adding 81 extra ).

IF I wanted to harass you, I'd take these along, in groups of three! And then use my Infantry as spotters in Squad form...

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #35 on: 13 September 2017, 16:49:19 »
Drillson.  I have two lances of these.

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #36 on: 13 September 2017, 18:49:31 »
The Maxim (I). Twelve tons of infantry/battlesuit delivery, plus TAG backed up by twin ER mediums and a Streak-6. It's like the Swiss Army knife of hovertanks, it has tools for making every kind of unit go away. And yes, I consider TAG to be the "main gun": when you have sufficient Arrow-IV support, TAG is the deadliest weapon the battlefield.
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #37 on: 13 September 2017, 22:35:19 »
Given the option, I would use the Kanga. Who doesn't like a jumping hovertank? If not, then the Lightning is more than serviceable, especially if it is the Royal variant.....

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #38 on: 14 September 2017, 01:05:44 »
Regulator.

Outside of the Regulator though I've always liked the Gladius.   I really don't like most of the Clan hover tanks.  So if I vote for anything as a favorite it would be a Clan Bandit.

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #39 on: 14 September 2017, 05:13:18 »
If I'm going with favorite, I have to say Saladin (maybe Savannah Master). They're fun!
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #40 on: 14 September 2017, 11:24:53 »
The Maxim (I). Twelve tons of infantry/battlesuit delivery, plus TAG backed up by twin ER mediums and a Streak-6. It's like the Swiss Army knife of hovertanks, it has tools for making every kind of unit go away. And yes, I consider TAG to be the "main gun": when you have sufficient Arrow-IV support, TAG is the deadliest weapon the battlefield.

This can also be fun with Halburk's loaded with SG LRMS :-)
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #41 on: 19 September 2017, 14:15:25 »
The Drillson has always been my favorite.  :)
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #42 on: 27 September 2017, 19:52:29 »
I am surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but the star leauge Zephyr. Great turreted firepower, electronic warfare, reasonably tough and fast

For the clans i prefer the svandovit. Sure the armor is crap, but you can haul a battle armor point and unleash general havoc if you get creative with your mssiles
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #43 on: 28 September 2017, 04:46:05 »
In my opinion, there are quite a lot of well designed IS hover tanks.  These are a few of my favourites in no particular order.

Blizzard:  It's not flashy, but it is a stupidly cheap way of trucking around lots of infantry and providing them with covering fire.
Plainsman:  Tough, effective, inexpensive.  The active probe equipped version is especially nice.
Drillson:  Fast with well rounded firepower, one of the few succession wars tanks that outperforms an equivalent weight mech.
Regulator:  Obvious choice is obvious, but basically the tank the Condor and Scimitar want to be when they grow up.

Some other honorable mentions: the LRM Harrasser, Bandit and J Edgar


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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #44 on: 28 September 2017, 12:11:16 »
Funny story, but a few years ago my group BANNED me from using Savannah Masters. So it goes...   :))

I'll also throw in the J Edgar as well. I do mostly 3025.

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #45 on: 29 September 2017, 05:42:30 »
Canon the 3058 Pegasus Scout . I liked to work them in tandem with the O-Bakemono mech . 2 Homing Arrow IV rounds makes big holes for the SRM launchers to take advantage of . The one in the TRO seems a little off in tonnage . I design my own by 3068 and field them in numbers in 3075 when Heavy Ferro Fibrous armor becomes available in quantity . As for a game that made Savannah Masters outlawed : I saw a reason in the old FASA days when all combat vehicles moved before any mech so they could surround a mech and prevent it from getting a moment modifier . The new rules do not make all combat vehicles lose initiative so it is harder to hem in a non jumping mech .

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #46 on: 29 September 2017, 10:02:10 »
As for a game that made Savannah Masters outlawed : I saw a reason in the old FASA days when all combat vehicles moved before any mech so they could surround a mech and prevent it from getting a moment modifier . The new rules do not make all combat vehicles lose initiative so it is harder to hem in a non jumping mech .
Given an infinite number of Savannah Masters (which comes out to about 1000 BV), you either move them in groups (meaning enough to surround a 'Mech), or if using random initiative, have high odds of moving several before the 'Mech moves.  No guarantee that you can surround it before its own move, but the odds of doing so are still too high.

Personally, I wouldn't ban them, I'd just limit them (and anything similar: Gabriel) to no more than a lance on the table.
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #47 on: 29 September 2017, 12:03:40 »
I'd back that. There's a common-sense thread to be followed when it comes to planning games like that- if your army is planned out to be so annoying that no one will want to fight it, you'll be able to declare victory this weekend, then spend the next few wondering why no one will return your calls about the next game. The old saying is 'winning isn't everything'- and that's true. A few dozen Savannah Masters is a tough army to defeat, sure- but I sure wouldn't want to be at the table with someone who wants to play that way.
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #48 on: 29 September 2017, 12:47:06 »

From the Department of the Obvious:

You don't have to concede anything in-universe because of the Savannah Master, because you can defend a strategic choice that says, "no, my force will wait two weeks to engage until my wing of Nightshades, Rippers and Cavalry VTOLs arrive at which point I will be content to hunt every last one of your Masters down."

You do have to contend about strategic flexibility. You can't, really, always take your most favorite composition into every fight and expect to keep the same situational advantages and disadvantages.

On the MUXs, for instance, we developed a situation with the Condor-L, J Edgar and, I think, a particular Drillson variant. These units were situationally so OP that 2 or 3 hover tanks were literally taking down 3 or 4 'Mechs every fight, which was throwing the whole game out of whack, force comp, economy, the works. So, eventually the site admins had to use the strategic hand and make some adjustments as to the availability, cost, etc. Piloting ability had alot to do with that, of course, but also some unintended consequences of the ruleset were at play, as well.

Over the top of the complaints about arbitrariness, noobs, maps with lots of random level 2 hexsides, the Sprintlink Lag Conspiracy, inferno srms, etc., however, was the very sound military principle that, yes, you develop an advantage with a specific unit like a Condor-L and JEdgar, then, off-map, I am going to be dropping conventional bombs on your factories and offloading pads, using AeroSpace to interdict your supply chain, etc.
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #49 on: 29 September 2017, 15:33:44 »
Pegasus for me.   If the Saladin looked like the Gladius, then it would have been no contest otherwise.   Loved the RL/TOG look of the Gladius, just arrived a bit late to my awareness.

I simply love the Pegasus. A lance will disrupt any enemy plan. Used effectively they can be devastating. I've often put four in an enemies rear arc for full move modifiers. You can pop most mechs with that kind of fire power on their six. If it doesn't pop you'll probably pull a couple of through armour crits from sheer volume of hits.

Then they speed away, realign and speed in again. Any unit that can "turn" an opposing force getting into their rear arc is deadly dangerous. Ignore such a threat and it can do serious damage. Engage it and you waste precious fire power trying to hit very high THNs.

I often find it best to slowly pull back from any fast force like this. If it gets behind you and you're also engaged from the front things can get bad really fast.

Highly terrain dependant unit of course.

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #50 on: 29 September 2017, 18:27:06 »
The faction that uses the Savannah Master the most also uses the most Assault mechs . Since Assault are too slow to intercept objective raids well I tend to see a lance of militia assault mechs on station and a company of Savannah Masters that can race to the site from a regional base . The target may already have conventional or battle armor infantry . The attacking force must have a close LZ or a second company of Savannah Masters may have the time to join in the fight or harass while the raiders retreat . 21 + speed means they can be based within 50-100km of many potential targets and get to any one of them once the attacking force commits to one . They define quantity is a quality all by itself. Unless they are not at least a company of them they are not a huge obstacle .

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #51 on: 07 October 2017, 09:37:26 »
I'd back that. There's a common-sense thread to be followed when it comes to planning games like that- if your army is planned out to be so annoying that no one will want to fight it, you'll be able to declare victory this weekend, then spend the next few wondering why no one will return your calls about the next game. The old saying is 'winning isn't everything'- and that's true. A few dozen Savannah Masters is a tough army to defeat, sure- but I sure wouldn't want to be at the table with someone who wants to play that way.

I don't know.... a company of Savannah Masters vs. a Lance of Charger-1A1's? Single mapsheet, rolling hills. Do you ram or run away?

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #52 on: 07 October 2017, 11:47:36 »
Harrasser with mixed variants. Nothing like being able to deploy LRM cover supported by SRMs and Medium Lasers all in the same hull design.

Second Goes to the Heavy Hover APC. Nothing like being able to deploy a full team of BA at a moment's notice.

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #53 on: 11 October 2017, 04:31:39 »
1. Regulator for obvious reasons.
2.  Saladin. Again for obvious reasons.
3. SM1 tank destroyer...preferably the SM1A, but the SM1 one came out in 3068.
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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #54 on: 11 October 2017, 09:35:01 »
I don't know.... a company of Savannah Masters vs. a Lance of Charger-1A1's? Single mapsheet, rolling hills. Do you ram or run away?

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Re: What's your favourite hover tank up to and including 3060?
« Reply #55 on: 13 October 2017, 00:21:07 »
I'm rather fond of the Infantry version of the Maxim as a battlebus for my Kanazuchis.