Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV

[Giovanni Blasini]

According to the MUL, the Marians begin fielding the SDR-8M Spider as of the Early Republic era. That's not a bad light jumper.

[Saint]

According to the MUL, the Marians begin fielding the SDR-8M Spider as of the Early Republic era. That's not a bad light jumper.

Yeah but that's likely imported or salvage, I'm think more home grown.

[worktroll]

Well, depending on period, you do have the Hegemony producing the Primitive Centurion.

I'm torn between seeing some sort of homegrown (or claimable) heavy, and taking an otherwise neglected design, adding some laminar-looking armour, and calling it the "Decurion". The Icarus II would be useful for this; alternatively, a non-XL version of the Razorback, which seems to drop off the radar post-Jihad.

Then there's the bit of me that would love to see the Hegemony producing an indigenous assault 'Mech hastily relabelled named the Rising Star ...

[Arkansas Warrior]

Razorback, Battle Hawk, the Lyrans make a lot of good light mechs that they then neglect to use.  Surely they'd be willing to sell the plans....

[Kit deSummersville]

Razorback, Battle Hawk, the Lyrans make a lot of good light mechs that they then neglect to use.  Surely they'd be willing to sell the plans....

They're Lyrans, there's more money to be made of selling the 'Mechs (and ensuing spare parts)!

[Karimancer]

They're Lyrans, there's more money to be made of selling the 'Mechs (and ensuing spare parts)!

They may, however, find it more cost effective to license the designs to the Marians. That way they can keep their own production lines open for designs that are more profitable.

[worktroll]

Marians are a pround and honourable people. They waste no time arguing copyright law, or intellectual property rights. We hold what we take! O0

[Karimancer]

Must be why you're so popular and have so many allies.

[Arkansas Warrior]

Nah, I'd put that down to our history of piracy.  Avast ye, amicae!  Shiver me arbores!

[Karimancer]

Pfft. Marians, always putting on airs. If you're gonna be pirates, just be pirates. It's a proud and, well not noble, but still a proud profession. *Goes back to counting her swag.*

[Saint]

Naah we've moved past our pirating days. Now we are playing with the big boys we attack for territorial gain, the spoils of war are just a bonus. ;)

Anything else is just an objective raid. Mostly

[Weirdo]

Pfft. Marians, always putting on airs. If you're gonna be pirates, just be pirates. It's a proud and, well not noble, but still a proud profession. *Goes back to counting her swag.*

Ah, but we get to sound pretentious and overeducated while we go about our piracy! O0

Also we get to use various derivatives of the word Legion a lot, which is cool.

[Arkansas Warrior]

And me hat's a tricorne with an aquila on top!

[Karimancer]

Naah we've moved past our pirating days. Now we are playing with the big boys we attack for territorial gain, the spoils of war are just a bonus. ;)

Anything else is just an objective raid. Mostly

Sounds like piracy with a bunch of tacked-on doublespeak to me.

Ah, but we get to sound pretentious and overeducated while we go about our piracy! O0

Also we get to use various derivatives of the word Legion a lot, which is cool.

Pretentious, yes. But I think the only folks in the Periphery that can claim to be educated, let alone over educated, are the Taurians. More than half of them can actually read!

[Weirdo]

Sounds like piracy with a bunch of tacked-on doublespeak to me.

Which pretty much puts us on the same level as the day-to-day operations of the Houses and Clans. I think the doublespeak is what passes for the difference between banditry and legitimacy these past few centuries. O0

Pretentious, yes. But I think the only folks in the Periphery that can claim to be educated, let alone over educated, are the Taurians. More than half of them can actually read!

Well, I never said we actually were overeducated, just that we could sound like it. :)

[Karimancer]

Indeed. To both.

[Adacas]

Well taking what is said by Saint, I basically agree with all the designs well the MH manufacture those modern designs after constructing the primitive designs in cases of disaster and own designs like LCT-1V2 and COM-4H.

As for Mech heavy apart from our beloved Cataphract, and if it is autochthonous I would like to see (if it is a dream), a design similar to my Optione that appears in Shadow War Suplement (Fanmade Suplemental), is beautiful 60 tn, jumps And energy weapons

As for Aero, hopefully we are building something else besides the Shilone


Because we have a few factories where we could manufacture them, maybe not in large numbers but if for self-sufficiency and some export to mercs

[Adacas]

Is it me or did we add some mechs in Dark Age Era?

[Saint]

The Marians do seem to get a odd mix. I kind of like the Storm Raider for them , seems like a good fit.

[worktroll]

But it needs a workover, so it has a sword (gladius) instead of the mace, and a Romanesque helmet.

Seriously, are the Marians making COM-4Hs, or are they scouring the "pick-a-part" and "Billy-Joe's budget 'Mech-yard"s of the sphere in search of old chassis, which are then shipped back for sanding down & refurbishment? Imagining DropShips loaded with rusted 'Mech parts ...

[Colt Ward]

I thought they were doing that for a lot of equipment in the 3100s.

Honestly with the Regulans now back in the fold I do not see the Marians keeping Kendall, I know TRO3150 was sort of vague on all of that but . . .

[Saint]

They are producing the Commado, Locust, Gladiator, Icarus, Centurion,  and Emperor. What models are the question.

It would be cool to get a Marian variant for the Storm Raider.

[Kit deSummersville]

But it needs a workover, so it has a sword (gladius) instead of the mace, and a Romanesque helmet.

Seriously, are the Marians making COM-4Hs, or are they scouring the "pick-a-part" and "Billy-Joe's budget 'Mech-yard"s of the sphere in search of old chassis, which are then shipped back for sanding down & refurbishment? Imagining DropShips loaded with rusted 'Mech parts ...

I believe it's the latter.

[Adacas]

But it needs a workover, so it has a sword (gladius) instead of the mace, and a Romanesque helmet.

Seriously, are the Marians making COM-4Hs, or are they scouring the "pick-a-part" and "Billy-Joe's budget 'Mech-yard"s of the sphere in search of old chassis, which are then shipped back for sanding down & refurbishment? Imagining DropShips loaded with rusted 'Mech parts ...

As we read in the last objective raids and last publications that spoke of the subject, the Marian Hegemony specifically Marian Arms from 3075 locally manufactures Locust and Command.
In 3075 He manufactured Centurion, Gladiator, Icarus, Archer and Emperor in their primitive versions, in 3145 with more factories and experience of constructing they must be building more modern versions of those mechs.

Also in 3075 already joined other mechs like the MAD II-4H buying or stealing parts and chassis, is the same situation and making modifications of RL versions of other mechs like Whitworth or Jagermech

Marian Factorys

Marian Arms Inc  - Alphard (3075)
Alphard Trading Corporation - Alphard (3075) - Addhara (3099)
Hadrian Inc - Pompey (3075)

Minimally they manufacture pieces of mech since marik troops tried to raid of looting in 3110, in the fluff of Objectives Raids or other publication saying that the Factory of Hadrian fabricated or manufactured mech, perhaps they have bought designs or they associated with some company perhaps Taurians or Lyrans in view of the large number of mech lirans in the TOE

[Kojak]

You know what'd be fun? The Marians capturing Son Hoa and rebuilding the factories there. How cool would it be if the Marians were suddenly rocking Wights, Warhammers, Emperors, Highlanders and King Crabs?

[Adacas]

You know what'd be fun? The Marians capturing Son Hoa and rebuilding the factories there. How cool would it be if the Marians were suddenly rocking Wights, Warhammers, Emperors, Highlanders and King Crabs?

Humm before Son Hoa, would have to see if you can take Balthazar III and rebuild the factory there or in Erdyvyn

[DavyJones]

  my question is with taking more factories would we  be able to produce enough mechwarriors and techs to support the increased production . We only really have the Collegium Bellorum Imperium producing the bulk of our troops . which overall is a bit problematic  to me because it creates a situation where a single strike could cripple our ability to replenish losses .More manufacturing with an increase in technology is great but if we cant integrate that into the army its not as useful to me as it stretches out our already limited supply of troops .
  After Kendall I`m for being defensive for a while till we can more fully utilize what we have . We need at least 1 maybe 2 more military academies in my opinion to have a real impact if we want to increase manufacturing that much . We also need to balance newly acquired capabilities with existing capabilities to avoid causing economic harm to existing factories which could lead to civil unrest and other unintended consequences .
 Son Hoa to me is more of a diplomatic offensive then a military one as I value there colleges more then there manufacturing . I would prefer to run as many of our student thru there STEM programs as I can to increase our ability to improve our existing factories ,hospitals and educational institutes .

[Arkansas Warrior]

If you've got excess production, hire some down-and-out merge with more pilots than machines.  Keep the best of the production for the Legiones, offer discounts on the excess as part of their contracts.  Also, you don't necessarily need a military academy to train mechwarriors.   Look at what Davion did with the Training Battalions.  I'm sure we could some find some IndustrialMech jockeys somewhere who'd love the chance at becoming mechwarriors via OJT.

[Adacas]

I would first like to confirm how many factories we have among the 3 companies or more that work in the Marian Hegemony, I also agree with you that it would be the logical step to open a pair of regional Academies with a good academic level for the formation and expansion of our military forces. The different levels (Mech, Aero, Battlearmour, Infantery and others)
Personally it would open 2 or 3 academies dedicated to Battlearmor and conventional in Horatius, another one in Pompey more oriented to Aero and Dropships and Jumpships creations and another in Addhara oriented to Mech and Tanks.

Also it could be continued advancing with the Cultural Assimilation that seemed to come well and see if it has provided some fruit with the worlds that already knew that they had treated

[Adacas]

If you've got excess production, hire some down-and-out merge with more pilots than machines.  Keep the best of the production for the Legiones, offer discounts on the excess as part of their contracts.  Also, you don't necessarily need a military academy to train mechwarriors.   Look at what Davion did with the Training Battalions.  I'm sure we could some find some IndustrialMech jockeys somewhere who'd love the chance at becoming mechwarriors via OJT.

I believe that the Training Battalions of Davion, the most similar that has the Marians are the Fields of Mars in each system for plebeians