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Second Succession War
« on: 18 July 2017, 09:18:05 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with Second Succession War.

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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #1 on: 18 July 2017, 10:53:19 »

    * VERSION: 1st PDF Release
    * LOCATION: Page 2, The Second Succession War (2825 - 2863)
    * THE ERROR: Subsection Miss-labeled. - Jar And The Comstar War (2837–2742)…
    * THE CORRECTION: Change subsection to Jar And The Comstar War (2837–2842)…
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #2 on: 18 July 2017, 13:51:55 »
    * VERSION: 1st PDF Release
    * LOCATION: Page 22, The Minnesota Tribe, 5th Paragraph 
    * THE ERROR: misspelling, Jinjiro’s post–First War pogroms
    * THE CORRECTION: Change wording to Jinjiro’s post–First War programs
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #3 on: 18 July 2017, 18:03:54 »
    * VERSION: 1st PDF Release
    * LOCATION: Page 22, The Minnesota Tribe, 5th Paragraph 
    * THE ERROR: misspelling, Jinjiro’s post–First War pogroms
    * THE CORRECTION: Change wording to Jinjiro’s post–First War programs

In that context pogrom seems more likely to be the correct word than program.

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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #4 on: 18 July 2017, 19:03:08 »
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Pages 97 & 98

Issue- On page 97 Bolton's Rangers are listed as a merc unit serving the DCMS during the entire 2nd SW. However per the original House Marik SB p. 97 (also referenced in FM:FWL) Bolton's Rangers (formerly the SLDFs 208th Hussars) served with the DCMS during the 1st SW.  At some point (when is not clear - it may be during the 1st SW or some time later), the unit suffered treachery at the hands of the DC and then "contracted with the Duke of Oriente to participate in the Free Worlds' invasion of the Capellan Confederation." (implies maybe the 2830s?).  In 2845 they are offered regular status as the 5th Brigade of the Fusiliers of Oriente. 

Corrections: For the DCMS Bolton's Rangers should either be removed entirely or at least the 2864 listing should be changed to moved to FWL 28xx (again there is no firm date for their departure- I would suggest 2831)

For the FWL Merc commands should list:
Bolton's Rangers - under 2830 it should either have the unit in the FWL or say DCMS to 28xx.  for 2864 it should indicate became 5th Brigade Fusiliers of Oriente 2845.

For the FWL house units, you need to add the 5th Brigade with a notation for 2830 (joined FWL in 2845- formerly Bolton's Rangers) and 2864 indicate their assignment and strength.

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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #5 on: 18 July 2017, 19:07:34 »
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P. 100

Issue: Entry for Raymond's Redcoats is missing the experience, loyalty and weight entry for 2864.
Correction- those values should be filled in. 

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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #6 on: 18 July 2017, 22:53:48 »

    * VERSION: 1st PDF Release
    * LOCATION: Page 2, Intentions, Page 3 Credits
    * THE ERROR: Short Story does not mention who wrote it.
    * THE CORRECTION: Change entry on page 2 to Intentions (by Paul Sjardijn)  Author's name confirmed by Adrien Gideon in forums.  Added Short Story Entry accredited to Paul Sjardijn.
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #7 on: 19 July 2017, 10:00:18 »
    * VERSION: 1st PDF Release
    * LOCATION: Page 51, THE BATTLES FOR ANDURIEN (CONTINUED), Paragraph 2nd Paragraph
    * THE ERROR: Typo in year of the battle. "The Sixth Battle of Andurien ran from March to October 2039 and saw the Liao troops reach the outskirts of Jojoken before being halted by dogged Marik resistance."
    * THE CORRECTION: Change "The Sixth Battle of Andurien ran from March to October 2839 and saw the Liao troops reach the outskirts of Jojoken before being halted by dogged Marik resistance."
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #8 on: 19 July 2017, 12:07:32 »
    * VERSION: 1st PDF Release
    * LOCATION: Page 56, HINDERS’S WAR: NEW CALEDONIA (2841–2848) , Paragraph 1st Paragraph
    * THE ERROR: Passage mentions the 24th York Regulars being on New Caledonia to assist the Fourth Royal Guards, however review of Field Report: 2765 and First Succession Wars Book shows (p. 139), the unit on New Caledonia is the 27th York Regulars.  The 24th York Regulars do not exist in this Succession Wars  Era.  Unless this is a new unit raised.  The 27th York Regulars are listed having ending the First War on New Caledonia.
    * THE CORRECTION: Change support came in the form of the Twenty-fourth York Regulars to Twenty-Seventh York Regulars.
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #9 on: 21 July 2017, 16:06:08 »
* VERSION: 1st PDF Release
* LOCATION: Page 15, Breathing Room, Paragraph 5
* THE ERROR: The Draconis Combine and Federated Commonwealth resumed hostilities in March 2825 with the “Chain Gang” missions, swiftly followed by a direct assault.
* THE CORRECTION: The Draconis Combine resumed hostilities against the Lyran Commonwealth and Federated Suns in March 2825 with the “Chain Gang” missions, swiftly followed by a direct assault.
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #10 on: 28 July 2017, 13:28:23 »
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Pg 17
Under War renewed
 As early as 2825, the occasional raids had escalated into a continuous serious of military actions that were indistinguishable from the military campaigns that followed.

Correction - should be series not serious.


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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #11 on: 28 July 2017, 17:11:09 »
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P. 95
Unit listing Merc Combat Commands (and foot note)- Bloody Suns is spelled as Bloody Sons.  Everywhere else it is spelled as Suns
Correction: Change the spelling to Suns.
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #12 on: 28 July 2017, 17:18:36 »
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P. 24 After the fighting in Tawas in 2829 the survivors of Belinda's Irregulars merged with Simpson's Samurai's to form the Bloody Suns.  However per the House Liao SB p. 47: "Belinda's Irregulars was to be destroyed in House Davion's unsuccessful attempts to capture Tikonov later in the Succession Wars."

Possible correction: Have Simpson's Samurai's join the Irregulars after Tawas and retain the Irregulars name.  Change all references to the Bloody Suns to Belinda's Irregulars. 

P.27 With the Eighth on the run from two Davion divisions and the....

the 8th was on the run from the Chesterton CMM and the 3rd Deneb Light Cavalry.   These should probably be referred to as Regiments since the AFFS does not have divisions.
Change Divisions to Regiments.

P.27 The presence of the Davion Assault Guards on Orbisonia. 
Per HB:HL p. 29 and HLSB p. 47 the AFFS forces on Orbisonia were lighter then the Marauder/warhammer force deployed by the CCAF and managed to out maneuver  the CC forces during the 4 day battle.  The presence of the Assault Guards does not fit with that description (nor is their presence on the planet mention in the early SBs)

Correction: Remove all mention of the Davion Assault Guards and change the entry to indicate that the lighter AFFS unit managed to out maneuver the Capellans.

P.28 Sidebar
Error: That such honest brokers might not be trust- worthy is always at the back of the combatants’ minds

If they are not trustworthy you would not refer to them as honest brokers.
Correction remove the word honest from the sentence.

P. 36
 3rd Paragraph: the Chesterton Reserves, on 19 October threatened the Davion position and place the Ceti Hussars between the hammer of the relief force

Wrong tense should be placed 

P. 41
top paragraph, right side: The plan, Operation BLACKSMITH, called for two task forces, one striking the coreward from bases on Hamilton and Augustine (Task Force Hammer),

Correction: The should be removed. 

P. 50
Error:  Instead, he had been placed in command of the “safe” Sixth Lyran Regulars only to find himself in an untenable situation with the Marik offensive.

Per HSSB p. 56 Grimm commanded the 65th Lyran Regulars.  HBHS p.41 claims he commanded the 54th Lyran Regulars.  Periphery 1e. P. 148 says he coimmandd the 65th Lyran Regulars.  The 6th Lyran Regulars were still in existance in 3025 (per HSSB). 

Correction: Change 6th Lyran Regulars to the 65th.  Errata HBHS to say he commanded the 65th. Also need to add the 65th Lyran Regulars to the LCAF unit listing on page 99.


P. 50 Sidebar 2nd Paragraph

Error - Initially the CCAF were too preoccupied with occupying worlds abandoned by the FWLM
were is plural, CCAF is singular. 

Correction: Change were to was. 

p. 51 sidebar 2nd full paragraph
The Sixth Battle of Andurien ran from March to October 2039 and saw the Liao troops reach the outskirts of

Correction - should be 2839

P. 51 Comstar War - Liao Attacks 2837 - Bernardo is misspelled as Bernado.  (also on p.121  - Major Factory Worlds Table)

P. 56 Hinders's War
South of Redfev, First and Third Battalions of the Fourth Royal Guards faced off against Second Battalion of the recently arrived Seventh Rasalhague Regulars. Under the command of Major Michael Hinders, the colonel’s younger brother, the battalion served as a mobile harassing force out on the plains.

Error: There appears to be a sentence missing here.  From later in the Sidebar it seems that Major Hinders commanded the 2nd Battalion.  It's hard to provide a correction but it looks like there is should be a sentence something along the lines of " The Second Battalion was deployed at (Fill in location). 
Alternatively the 2nd sentence could be changed to, The 2nd Battalion of the 4th Royal Guards, commanded by the Colonel's younger brother Michael, served as a mobile harassing force out on the plains.


p.55 and P.58 Not really an error per se but very confusing: The battle on Thorin in 2841 is described twice in 2 different paragraphs, once on page 55 and again on page 58.  The descriptions are consistent but they should be combined into 1 entry- at first glance it looks like the DC invaded the world twice. 

P. 68 A New Type of War Sidebar
Francesca Huq's name is spelled as both Huq and Hug.  I am guessing that Huq is correct and Hug is a spell checking error.  The names should made the same throughout the entry.

P.69 (may not be an error) The map shows Asuncion as a Capellan world in 2840.  The world was only captured in August of 2840 so maybe it should be shaded the lightest gray- with out a date on the map other then 2840 it's not clear if the map is wrong.

P. 70 (may be an intentional in universe error)
The side bar Occupation of Circinus:
Error: (including other Periphery worlds, some of whom banded together as the Lothian League to resist the banditry)

The Lothian League goes back to the 2690s.  Per 1st SW p. 104 the Lothian League traded with the FWL during the SL Era.  So clearly the FWL knew of their existence and the Lothian League did not form to defend against the Black Warriors.

Correction.  This statement should be removed (unless it is intended to show that the IS knows little to nothing about the periphery states.)


P. 70-71 main text (last sentence)
Although never quite grinding to a halt as the Lyran front had, the fight against the Capellan Confederation reinvigorated when Gerald visited troops on their staging worlds and participating in numerous assaults.

grammer errors
Correction:
 Although never quite grinding to a halt as the Lyran front had, the fight against the Capellan Confederation was reinvigorated when Gerald visited troops on their staging worlds and participated in numerous assaults.

P. 75 Sidebar
and leaking news of House Kurita’s internal troubles with the Combine’s enemies.

the info was leaked to the FS and LC- replace with with to.

P. 75 4th Paragraph
 However, the steady succession of assaults did prevent the AFFS from bring force to bear against the Robinson Thumb.

grammar- replace bring with Bringing.


p. 81
Entry for 2836: Third Battle of Hesperus II. DCMS overconfidence leads to an easy LCAF victory.

Should be Fourth Battle of Hesperus II.

P. 81 entry for 2840 indicated Hendrik Grimm commanded the 6th Lyran Regulars- it should be the 65th as stated in a previous correction.

P. 90
Michael Davion's bio
A military cabal planning a coup d’état against Michael’s policies in the 2880s was dissuaded by his uncle, Peter Davion.

Michael Davion died in 2873.  This should be 2840's, per page 63.

P. 95
CCAF unit listing
Blandford's Grenadiers, Chesterton Guardians, Gryff's Hussars, Marshals of Tikonov, Prefectorate Guard and Red Lancers are shown as part of the Chesterton Reserves.  The are actually the Capellan Hussars (FR CCAF 2765).  The listing should changed so they are shown as part of the Capellan Hussars, the Chesterton Reserves should begin with Justine's Grenadiers.

P. 95 CCAF Unit Listing.
Missing Unit- per TR3025 (original edition) p.52 the 23rd Chesterton Reserves were formed circa 2830.  They should be added to the unit listing.

P. 96 DCMS Unit Listing.
Per FMDC p. 103 the 6th Arkab Legion formed during the 2nd SW from survivors of the 5th Arkab Legion.  It's possible there was a 6th Legion that was destroyed and then reformed but if so this should be indicated somehow on the table.  Depending on how this is handled there would be an errata to the 1st SW SB.

Per FMDC P. 65 the 19th Galedon Regulars was formed during the 2nd SW.  As with the 6th Arkab Legion this should be addressed in some manner.

P. 98 FWL Unit listing
Per FM:FWL p. 65 the 8th Marik Militia was destroyed during the Comstar War in 2838 and the survivors absorbed by the 23rd Marik Militia.  The unit listing should show destroyed for 2864.

4th Orloff Grenadiers - per FM:FWL p. 103 they were destroyed on Suzarno in 2838.  The survivors and new troops formed the 6th Orloff Grenadiers in 2840.  The 4th's entry should show them as destroyed in 2864 and the 6th should show them as not formed in 2830.

P. 99 LCAF Unit Listing
the 2nd Lyran Guards are missing from the unit listing.  Per p. 60 of 2nd SW and P. 42 of HBHS the 2nd was in service during the 2nd SW under the command of Claudius Steiner.  The unit should be added back to the LCAF unit listing.

P. 116
Capabilities section:
These complaints which were echoed by MechWarriors in the latter half of the thirtieth century, when advanced lasers and Streak missiles disappeared from the Inner Sphere, and the -5LS joined the -5L on the scrapheap of history.

The 5LS did not have Streak Missiles- it had a standard SRM2.  This sentence should be corrected by removing the reference to the Streak Missiles. 
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #13 on: 28 July 2017, 17:23:54 »
Hey Irose, thanks for the reports.  However, it would help if you just made them all in one post, in page number order.  It's no problem if you just keep editing the same post, because when it comes time to make an errata document I'll make a note first, so that everyone knows not to edit from that point forward.

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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #14 on: 17 September 2017, 13:00:10 »
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Pg. 117
Error: There are two listing for 'R/L Arm' and 'R/L Leg' in the structure and armor section of the top box.
Correction: Remove the last ones that have both as armor value of 16. All that should remain is the 'R/L Arm' one with Structure=10 and Armor=20, as well as the 'R/L Leg' one with Structure=15 and Armor=29

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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #15 on: 02 October 2017, 04:11:55 »
Irose already pointed out above that Hendrik Grimm's unit is erroneously given as the Sixth Lyran Regulars on p. 50 (it should be the 65th). The same wrong unit is given again in the timeline on p. 81, in the entry for the year 2840.
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Re: Second Succession War
« Reply #16 on: 02 October 2017, 23:50:55 »
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P. 117

Under Weapons and Ammo - 5L Variant (but not under Both Variants) change the ER Large Laser line to:
Artemis IV FCS (Location RT, 1 Critical Slot, 1 Ton).
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