BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat
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Saw a pre-screener of Pacific Rim last night. There are plenty of other reviews to tell you whether it was good or not as a movie (I thought it was really great), but what you really want to know is: how much of it felt like Battletech?
No surprise given the shared mecha background--a lot of it did.
I'll try to avoid specific spoilers ("It was totally Jade Falcon when they did X or Y,") and stick to thematic stuff, but if you really want to go in knowing nothing--and I'd encourage you to do so--stop reading already.
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Though the specific scale of PacRim was larger, the scope felt very much like everyone's favorite board game. Shot after shot of giant robots rampaging through a city reminded me strongly of artwork from across the BTU.
I thought the way the Jagers moved was more or less how I pictured 'Mechs operating--humanoid ones, anyway--and the depiction of the pilot interface at times seemed a lot like a neurohelmet. There was even a quick mention of a "gyroscope." The way the pilots moved the Jaegers also made more sense than the BT-style seated cockpit, throttle-up/throttle-down setup, which I could never figure out--how would a 'Mech be able to take a step up, or kick?
The sheer scale of keeping the Jaegers in service also made me think of the BT 'techs. Some shots of techs swarming over a damaged Jaeger or reloading ammunition were exactly how I'd pictured 'Mechs getting worked on.
Finally, for the Clan fans, some elements of the pilot training and selection felt similar to Clan sibkos and Trials. Though in PacRim we only see the Jaeger program and not the wider world, it wasn't hard to picture the Jaeger pilots as a kind of ruling warrior caste, supported by legions of scientists, techs, and laborers.
Bottom line: as others have said, this is probably the closest we'll ever get to a live-action, major Battletech movie. If you like BT, then like me you've probably been eagerly anticipating Pacific Rim, and it doesn't disappoint.
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Isn't Robotech itself in live action development?
Regardless I look forward to seeing this (unlike Lone Ranger which I'm delaying till the cheapies... maybe).
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Lone Ranger isn't worth it, not even the cheapies, it's a netflix/redbox movie.
As far as Pacific Rim goes I'm very excited for it, but never really saw it in terms of Battletech. I saw it as a westernized Evangelion without the problems of being written by a guy undergoing a mental breakdown.
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I'm planning to see it, but truthfully i see it more a monster mash movie than something remotely like Battletech. If anything, its like oversized Robo Jox (I keep seeing it every time i see a commercial for the movie. From reviews of the movie, their saying its very light on acting/plot and more action pack carnage.
What i think is more funny is there a parody/rip-off in the works, Atlantic Rim. I think its same folks who did Transmorphers...so watch out MST3K fans!
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Isn't Robotech itself in live action development?
Development hell I think...
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As far as Pacific Rim goes I'm very excited for it, but never really saw it in terms of Battletech. I saw it as a westernized Evangelion without the problems of being written by a guy undergoing a mental breakdown.
This. The preview also struck me as a live-action Evangelion without the extra fluff thrown in. Which is okay, I suppose.
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This movie has nothing to do with Battletech IMO. Just big robots beating up monsters in a city. It's Godzilla vs Robot Jox to me. It's going to be a fun movie for me, I will be laughing and cheering. But does that make a good movie for everyone else.....far from it.
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Development hell I think...
They're filming it in Cleaveland? :D
Craig
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I am dying to see this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks crazy badass and also like a lot of fun! One thing is for sure, and that it couldn't possibly be as bad as evengelion, that's for sure. I'm glad to see the OP enjoyed it though!
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...Cleaveland?
There are multiple ways to take this... ;D
As for the movie, I'm definitely seeing it. It looks like it'll have everything that I've ever wanted to see in a movie that wasn't in Battleship! O0
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There are multiple ways to take this... ;D
Now I want a whole company of Berserkers, Axemans, and Hatchetmans to be the Cleaveland Militia
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So you went one way with the meaning... ;D
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There are multiple ways to take this... ;D
As for the movie, I'm definitely seeing it. It looks like it'll have everything that I've ever wanted to see in a movie that wasn't in Battleship! O0
Like a coherent plot and actors that can act?
Craig
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Giant robots and monsters in an unashamed brawl, doy! :D
Like a coherent plot and actors that can act?
Who cares about that stuff? You can find that in vary degrees any day of the week. This is very clearly all about Del Toro wanting to make a giant robot vs giant monster movie, and then doing exactly that. I have been waiting for a movie like this for my entire life, and have always had to settle for underfunded crap, or movies that promised what I sought, but where nothing but veneers poorly wrapped around plot development(and usually pretty crappy plots).
If this movie does well enough that we can convince Hollywood that THIS is the guy to be doing action blockbusters instead of Bay, we just might be heading into a new golden age of cinema.
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Giant robots and monsters in an unashamed brawl, doy! :D
Who cares about that stuff? You can find that in vary degrees any day of the week. This is very clearly all about Del Toro wanting to make a giant robot vs giant monster movie, and then doing exactly that. I have been waiting for a movie like this for my entire life, and have always had to settle for underfunded crap, or movies that promised what I sought, but where nothing but veneers poorly wrapped around plot development(and usually pretty crappy plots).
If this movie does well enough that we can convince Hollywood that THIS is the guy to be doing action blockbusters instead of Bay, we just might be heading into a new golden age of cinema.
QFT x1000. (and also battlehip was a kickass movie). Although I like Bay.
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I can't say I like him by any means, but I'll forgive you because of your avatar, and because he brought us Mighty Mo to the tune of AC/DC. I gotta give him that.
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Just got done watching it. I'm exhausted, purely from tensing up so much. Heck, *I* was the one excited to see it. My *wife* was the one who had to alternate between holding on to me to relax her muscles, and letting go so she didn't injure me when her instincts were making her want to punch along with the robots.
The movie was so kickass that it almost literally kicked my ass. That says it all to me.
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This movie has nothing to do with Battletech IMO. Just big robots beating up monsters in a city. It's Godzilla vs Robot Jox to me. It's going to be a fun movie for me, I will be laughing and cheering. But does that make a good movie for everyone else.....far from it.
Ah, Robot Jox (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102800/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1).
That is the BattleTech movie. It is virtually a documentary on Clan society.
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Development hell I think...
Long may it remain...
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Picking up a freighter and using it as a baseball bat, is worth it to me.
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I'm pretty sure we all saw that part in the trailers, but let's be sure to spoiler tag the rest, eh?
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Just back from seeing Pacific Rim.
Aw hell yeah...
It's exactly what it tries to be. Nothing more, and certainly nothing less. It is giant robots fighting giant monsters; del Toro made exactly the kind of movie he intended to make. That being said, I had a heck of a great time! I enjoyed it a *lot* more than I enjoyed the first Transformers film. Would I see it again? Heck yes! Will I buy it when it comes on on DVD? Better believe it! Did I get my suspension of disbelief yanked on? Yeah, once or twice. But not in any way that ruined the film for me.
It was a fun film to go get lost in for a little over two hours. Go see it. Take a friend.
Oh, and for those who know of what I speak, two words: Blue. Hair.
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Pacific Rim was exactly what I expected it to be: AWESOME! Giant Robot on Kaiju battle? Check, Acceptable plot? check. More Giant Robot on Kaiju fights? Check. 'Rule of Cool' taken to the max? check. Japanese I could understand without subtitles? Extra bonus! I think I will have to see this again! I love this movie!
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Just got done watching it. I'm exhausted, purely from tensing up so much. Heck, *I* was the one excited to see it. My *wife* was the one who had to alternate between holding on to me to relax her muscles, and letting go so she didn't injure me when her instincts were making her want to punch along with the robots.
The movie was so kickass that it almost literally kicked my ass. That says it all to me.
[stupid] THIS. ALL OF IT (less the bit about the wife, since I'm single). I got out of seeing Pacific Rim in 3D a little over three hours ago. I'M STILL HYPER! I would've stayed to see it again, like people did with A New Hope back in 1977, but I couldn't get cover for more than half my work-day. The fight in Hong Kong is... I haven't clutched my seat in excitement like that EVER. Too bad that Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon go down so fast and easy, but that's what happens when someone who knows everything about the surviving Jagers is dumb enough to tap into the kaiju hive-mind and let them see into his mind so they can tailor their next attack. About the only thing that bothered me about the actors' performances was the fact that while they tried, the actors playing the Hansens sounded about as Australian as Sly Stallone. (Which is a shame, since Max Martini is otherwise a stone-cold badass as always, and Kasinzky delivers a note-perfect conceited young hot-shot.)
YOU WANT TO SEE THIS MOVIE. MULTIPLE TIMES. YOU WANT TO CANCEL THE APOCALYPSE! [notworthy] [rockon] [notworthy] [rockon]
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I am really bothered by that name. Pacific Rim dosen't really tell anything about movie itself and feels rather generic.
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[stupid] THIS. ALL OF IT (less the bit about the wife, since I'm single). I got out of seeing Pacific Rim in 3D a little over three hours ago. I'M STILL HYPER! I would've stayed to see it again, like people did with A New Hope back in 1977, but I couldn't get cover for more than half my work-day. The fight in Hong Kong is... I haven't clutched my seat in excitement like that EVER. Too bad that Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon go down so fast and easy, but that's what happens when someone who knows everything about the surviving Jagers is dumb enough to tap into the kaiju hive-mind and let them see into his mind so they can tailor their next attack. About the only thing that bothered me about the actors' performances was the fact that while they tried, the actors playing the Hansens sounded about as Australian as Sly Stallone. (Which is a shame, since Max Martini is otherwise a stone-cold badass as always, and Kasinzky delivers a note-perfect conceited young hot-shot.)
YOU WANT TO SEE THIS MOVIE. MULTIPLE TIMES. YOU WANT TO CANCEL THE APOCALYPSE! [notworthy] [rockon] [notworthy] [rockon]
AMEN!
I just got off watching it in 3D. It was glorious! I was the only one promoting this movie among my family & friends, and everybody was skeptical. They were like...it's just Ultraman+Power Rangers on the big screen. But I never doubted it. Literally was counting down to it during these few weeks, and I wasn't disappointed. Now I don't feel guilty for taking a sick leave from work today just to watch this movie #P
The story's more Evangelion, but I get why the OP mentioned the similarities with BT. Thick armor, realistic movement(as in, a bit clumsy), the neuro interface, gyro, retractable blades, chainswords, jump jets, nuclear reactor core, city fighting, picking up stuff as a club.
The Crimson Typhoon not using it's Extreme PlasmaCaster/PPC qualifies as a Missed Moment of Awesome :'(
Definitely watching it again. Maybe multiple times.
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my first thought was "It's Battletech AND H.P. Lovecraft all rolled in to one! Oh, happy day!"
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Or maybe you could say that this is Robot Jox with giant monsters. I am not sure if many of you even know about Robot Jox as its rather old movie. Then again it does also remind me about those Godzilla movies were S.O.S has MechaGodzilla.
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I am really bothered by that name. Pacific Rim dosen't really tell anything about movie itself and feels rather generic.
Well, unless you can express a nuclear-powered 80s power metal riff as played by the very gods of rock and roll in mere textual form, a name that would truly describe it just doesn't exist.
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Well, unless you can express a nuclear-powered 80s power metal riff as played by the very gods of rock and roll in mere textual form, a name that would truly describe it just doesn't exist.
You mean like the main theme music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpuhWD4mjUY), AKA Gipsy Danger’s character music? [drool] [rockon]
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If this movie does well enough that we can convince Hollywood that THIS is the guy to be doing action blockbusters instead of Bay, we just might be heading into a new golden age of cinema.
I just had this blissful idea of Del Toro doing a Transformers film, now I need to take up smoking to say I need a light. [drool]
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Trace, I hate you. Now I'm going to have that hanging over my head until I can get to an unblocked computer to listen to it! >:(
I just had this blissful idea of Del Toro doing a Transformers film, now I need to take up smoking to say I need a light. [drool]
Del Toro: One shall stand, one shall fall!
Bay: Why do you throw away your profits so recklessly?
*later*
Del Toro: I thought you were made of cooler stuff.
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Trace, I hate you. Now I'm going to have that hanging over my head until I can get to an unblocked computer to listen to it! >:(
Del Toro: One shall stand, one shall fall!
Bay: Why do you throw away your profits so recklessly?
*later*
Del Toro: I thought you were made of cooler stuff.
A Good Robot Film is the right of all sentient movie goers
-Del Toro Prime
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You mean like the main theme music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpuhWD4mjUY), AKA Gipsy Danger’s character music? [drool] [rockon]
This is a soundtrack album I am looking forward to saving up for and buying.
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You mean like the main theme music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpuhWD4mjUY), AKA Gipsy Danger’s character music? [drool] [rockon]
Well this soundtrack just made it in my list alongside the OMF 2097 main theme.
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Trace, I hate you. Now I'm going to have that hanging over my head until I can get to an unblocked computer to listen to it! >:(
Trust me, it's worth the wait. 8)
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I'll be seeing it Saturday on IMAX in 3D.... been pumped since first trailer and all the buzz I'm hearing seems to confirm my wait will be worth it.
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Watched it last night at a 10PM screening.
Great movie, just for what it is ROBOTS vs. MONSTERS! ;D
The CGI/props were fantastic, had the urge to punch right along with the Jagers!
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This movie has nothing to do with Battletech IMO. Just big robots beating up monsters in a city. It's Godzilla vs Robot Jox to me. It's going to be a fun movie for me, I will be laughing and cheering. But does that make a good movie for everyone else.....far from it.
Amen
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just saw it today.. it was fantastic normally even movies I like I find something critical wrong with the film.. some plot home.. something that took me away from my enjoyment even for a sec.. this movie didn't. It deliver exactly what I was expecting and wanted to see. While I would had like to have more action between monster and robot what I did get was more then enough to satisfy me stay to the end to see how Pearlman make out in the film
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If anyone ctually wants to try and pit one of these kaiju against Battlemechs... (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,31223.msg726530.html#new) :o
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Okay, everyone, I need opinions: should I get tickets to this in 3D or will regular ol' 2D suffice?
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Okay, everyone, I need opinions: should I get tickets to this in 3D or will regular ol' 2D suffice?
I did not see it in 3-D (I can't... my eyes and brain don't process it properly) so I can't say.
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Okay, everyone, I need opinions: should I get tickets to this in 3D or will regular ol' 2D suffice?
saw it in 3D thought it was great but none of the scene need to be scene that way. while the transition work aka nothing out of whack.. I think you are till good and it wont hurt you to see it in 2D
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Same here, I saw it in 2-D. (I can see 3-D, but it rarely adds much to my experience.)
It's more expensive, there's usually less available times...I avoid 3-D shows unless I REALLY like a movie, want to see it in theaters a second time, AND feel like it would be worth the extra cash(after all, a ticket saved is a cruiser earned). Pacific Rim was perfectly enjoyable in 2-D.
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Saw it and had a great time! I wish Crimson Typhoon and Cherno Alpha had gotten more screen time, but the movie was still damn good. Everything I hoped for and more when I saw the trailers!
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Oh my god, that soundtrack. . .like hot metal in my ears. :D Hot, gloriously sexy metal. [drool]
Getting this when it comes out on DVD, plus the full soundtrack AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ;D
I'd love to explore this universe some more, learn about the other Jaegers and the other Kaiju. . .
Suffice to say I'll be snapping up all the stuff they release for this for a long time to come. Maybe a decent board game. . .hell, I bet any action figures coming of the back of this will be sweet as hell!
(oh, did any one else get a massive robot-hard on when Idris Elba casually mentioned that the Hong Kong Shatter Dome could support 30 Jaegers? Was I the only one struck temporarily blind by the awesome imagined sight of 30 jesus wept Jaegers riding forth like the heralds of a metal apocalypse to bring down the hammer?)
In short: GO SEE THIS MOVIE!
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You know several years ago somebody posted house rules for titanic mechs that could weigh like a thousand tons. I think we've found a purpose for those rules.
Now we just need a few things to turn the metal up to 11. Like Jaeger-scale mech chainsaws, capitol scale flamethrowers and plasma cannons, a giant handheld weapon that's a cross between a mech-mace and a cannon. You hit them with it then it expends a round of ammunition to do internal damage. And rules for Jaeger scale sonic weapons. Rock so hard the sound liquifies enemy infantry and shatters armored vehicles.
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(oh, did any one else get a massive robot-hard on when Idris Elba casually mentioned that the Hong Kong Shatter Dome could support 30 Jaegers? Was I the only one struck temporarily blind by the awesome imagined sight of 30 jesus wept Jaegers riding forth like the heralds of a metal apocalypse to bring down the hammer?)
That would have been good to see in the movie, unfortunately they didn't have it. Those Kaiju were tough though.
There is one stinger after the fancy credits, but at the very end (after all the credits) is only a kaiju roar.
What I was thinking they would do as a basic anti-Kaiju defense would be tandem warhead shaped charge Brahmos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrahMos) or Bazalt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-500_Bazalt) missiles, built assembly line style. Giant bunkers full of them, volleyed when a Kaiju comes in range, orbiting when the Kaiju stays underwater, and slamming in at Mach 2+ when the Kaiju surface. The first part is a shaped charge to get through the skin, and the second warhead detonates inside. Multiple missiles as needed, and if they aren't the missiles just fall in the shallows, to be recovered.
Plus a biological solution to deal with the Kaiju blood, maybe bacteria of some kind to break it down faster?
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What I was thinking they would do as a basic anti-Kaiju defense would be tandem warhead shaped charge Brahmos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrahMos) or Bazalt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-500_Bazalt) missiles, built assembly line style. Giant bunkers full of them, volleyed when a Kaiju comes in range, orbiting when the Kaiju stays underwater, and slamming in at Mach 2+ when the Kaiju surface. The first part is a shaped charge to get through the skin, and the second warhead detonates inside. Multiple missiles as needed, and if they aren't the missiles just fall in the shallows, to be recovered.
"These missiles will go through Godzilla like crap through a goose!"
Come to think of it, I wonder if that's what Striker Eureka carried? It did have missiles that seemed reasonalby effective vs kaiju.Plus a biological solution to deal with the Kaiju blood, maybe bacteria of some kind to break it down faster?
Frankly, I'd be terrified of any bacterium tough enough to survive in a Kaiju's system(to say nothing of surviving what would likely have to be a very violent delivery system), and lethal enough to kill one of those monsters in the short period of time between crossing the breach and getting put down by more conventional means.
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It was perfect.
O0
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I watched the whole thing while the Godannar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsvp3TiE5bY) theme song played in my head.
This film was AWESOME.
I never imagined that this film would have been one, non-stop love song to super robot anime like Mazinger Z and Gaogaigar to this extent!
The head coming down into the torso like Mazinger....
The rocket punch....
the iron armor (Tetsujin 28 reference, perhaps?)....
The down on one knee pose Gypsy Danger assumed after slicing the fast aquatic kaiju in half....
All we needed was for someone to announce that their hand was burning red with the desire to defeat kaiju!
Absolutely EPIC Del Toro! Nice job!
Oh DAMN. I missed this in the theatre and had to go back and check online....
At the very end of the credits the film is dedicated to:
Go Nagai (Creator of Mazinger Z)
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Yoshiyuki Tomino (Creator of Mobile Suit Gundam)
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There might be an edition difference, MadCap. The version I saw had a dedication to Ray Harryhuasen (Either that or IMDB is wrong, and you know that never ever happens ever)
Saw it today. The giant robots versus monsters was pretty damn epic, though I will agree in the chorus of disappointment that Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon didn't get to do much beyond asplode. (In fact, I'll say now that aesthetically Cherno was my fave of the robots. I loved the cooling tower head and the bulky headsets of the pilot). I did note rather conspicuously that almost all of the fights took place at night, in the rain or otherwise darkened conditions.
The design of the base itself was rather nice; I liked the worn industrial look of it all and it definitely felt real and lived-in which added a degree of beliveability to it all. It also had a great sense of scale, which is oft missing from CG settings.
With that being said, the characters were wretchedly shallow and uninteresting; a combination of bad writing and a less then stellar cast. None of the characters were even remotely compelling to me, and the actors, Perlman aside seemed to be going through the motions more then anything else. It didn't help that Our Hero and Aussie Guy were shockingly similar in appearance and blandness. Speaking of which, the so-called Australian accents made me wince.
SO all up, yes it was fun but it was no masterpiece
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It was awesome. I loved the story and the build up. The monsters got better when the Jagers got better.
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This is a soundtrack album I am looking forward to saving up for and buying.
I just saw it's on Rhapsody. I will be browsing it and downloading
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There might be an edition difference, MadCap. The version I saw had a dedication to Ray Harryhuasen (Either that or IMDB is wrong, and you know that never ever happens ever)
I suppose that's possible, I don't know. Either would make sense, honestly.
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I suppose that's possible, I don't know. Either would make sense, honestly.
The version I saw had the Harryhausen dedication
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Most of the negative criticism I've seen around the InterWebz so far is centered around the story and characters. No surprise.
I thought both were perfectly acceptable for what this movie set out to be: monsters versus aliens. Sorry if it didn't have enough Oscar-worthy monologues and deep, nuanced, Indie-style complex relationships between the characters. Monsters. Getting. Punched. In. The. Face. Del Toro made the right call by not letting the story get in the way of the spectacle.
More than other recent movies, it's been fun to watch the film nerd critics on Rotten Tomatoes evaluate "Pacific Rim" like it was "Before Midnight."
This was a favorite:
"More "Transformers" than "Cloverfield." Where is the terror? Where is the suspense? Where is the beauty? The majesty? The sense of loss?"
The only sense of loss I felt after Cloverfield was $10 and an hour and a half of my life.
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Just got home a little while ago and have to say it was bloody fun to watch. I did not catch the music though. Have to see it again. But youbare right, worth getting on DVD to see the extras. The mecha movement was very cool and the suits where cool. Anyone noticed the carbon fiber pf the blacks suits and how whacked out the white suits of the Frost combat where. The one funny thing is the talk about how gypsy is analog and the other mecha where digital. They looked high tech to me, no 70, s looking tech that would have igioned the emp blast.
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Yeah, I laughed at that comment!
So they switched back to using analog systems briefly just for giant robots and then switched back?
Ah well. Super robot is all about the passion and pagentry anyway. It's not like the whole movie wasn't playing more fast and loose with physics than a Disney film.
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Saw it, expecting a 'love story to japanese monster movies', and got exactly what I hoped for. It was my first time seeing a film in 3-D since they became a 'thing' again, and on the whole it worked quite well.
Also, I'd need to see it again to be sure, but I'm pretty sure I saw an outline of a valkyrie on a blueprint on someone's wall at one point.
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Come to think of it, I wonder if that's what Striker Eureka carried? It did have missiles that seemed reasonalby effective vs kaiju.
Those looked more like a short-ranged missile, from their length:width (about 5:1, from when they were being reloaded). I'd see them as super-sized SRMs instead of Arrow IV.
Frankly, I'd be terrified of any bacterium tough enough to survive in a Kaiju's system(to say nothing of surviving what would likely have to be a very violent delivery system), and lethal enough to kill one of those monsters in the short period of time between crossing the breach and getting put down by more conventional means.
Ah, I meant something to clean up the blue sludge from the Kaiju attacks, not an quick-kill critter/nerve agent.
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Yeah, I laughed at that comment!
So they switched back to using analog systems briefly just for giant robots and then switched back?
Ah well. Super robot is all about the passion and pagentry anyway. It's not like the whole movie wasn't playing more fast and loose with physics than a Disney film.
Possible stupid in-universe explanation: the early kaiju were only stopped by nuclear weaponry. perhaps early design doctrine (up through those Mark III's) was to make the jaegers less vulnerable to EMP?
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Possible stupid in-universe explanation: the early kaiju were only stopped by nuclear weaponry. perhaps early design doctrine (up through those Mark III's) was to make the jaegers less vulnerable to EMP?
I have wonder about that giving they were creating a wall and I saw gun emplacement and the first batch were kill with regular weaponary if part of the strategy was to close off the pacific and just nuke it till it glow
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I saw it today too. I was Hoping it would be the movie four year old me has been waiting for since I saw my first Godzilla movie - I wasn't disappointed. Saw it in 2D and it was still awesome, but I may try and catch it in IMAX too. It has been a long time since seeing a summer blockbuster really felt like an event, but PacRim lived up to iT.
Cheers,
LCC
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"More "Transformers" than "Cloverfield."
More like "Let's take the 2000 Godzilla, Transformers, Cloverfield, and Independence Day. Now strip out about 80% of the stuff that sucked in all of those, now I want more robots. No... MORE ROBOTS, better."
Where is the terror?
The first few seconds where the Golden Gate bit it. Granted my inner geek squealed thinking "FINALLY A GODZILLA FILM!" But then I realized if that happened in real life I would be shocked and scared.
Where is the suspense?
Fighting these things and all the little surprises.
Where is the beauty? The majesty? The sense of loss?"
To answer these in order: The Gypsy Danger and also the female lead, Gypsy Danger, and Gypsy Danger
This one is going into the DVD library when it releases. O0
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What do you get when you take three pairs of internet game/movie reviewers and make them the Jaeger pilots in an officially-sanctioned Pacific Rim fan-film?
This. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5l_Dh2hJac) Watch for the cameos. ;D
In the words of one Spacebattler:
...That was wonderful. It was so campy and delightful and stupid and great. And of course TB and Husky are the first of the three to be even remotely competent.
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I had to go IMAX for this. Made me feel like I was ten again. Everything I wanted from the movie, it delivered in spades. The soundtrack and props all contributed to that old school Heavy Metal Mayhem feel. The 3D was cool, but not a deal breaker. Just the only way they showed it on the big IMAX screen. Time to go hunt down the heroclix models for my N-scale games. >:D
I'm also surprised nobody has been making "waiting for the shoe to drop" jokes about the reception here yet.
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Dodger!
Grumps!
Yay! ;D
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I had to go IMAX for this. Made me feel like I was ten again. Everything I wanted from the movie, it delivered in spades. The soundtrack and props all contributed to that old school Heavy Metal Mayhem feel. The 3D was cool, but not a deal breaker. Just the only way they showed it on the big IMAX screen. Time to go hunt down the heroclix models for my N-scale games. >:D
I'm also surprised nobody has been making "waiting for the shoe to drop" jokes about the reception here yet.
if you notice most of us like this movie so much we are being very careful on not spoiling it. we are actually taking extra care on what we say so no one be spoil cause we do want this movie to do well
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I have wonder about that giving they were creating a wall and I saw gun emplacement and the first batch were kill with regular weaponary if part of the strategy was to close off the pacific and just nuke it till it glow
http://pacificrim.wikia.com/wiki/Pacific_Rim:_Tales_From_Year_Zero
Per the Pacific Rim Year Zero comic, apparently the first few kaiju rampages required nuclear intervention to be stopped.
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This is a soundtrack album I am looking forward to saving up for and buying.
don't forget the best songs from the soundtrack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FfB09Wie6yk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tj-edq36_gk
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I had a lot of fun at this movie. Not as much fun as iron sky but it was still a great movie. I was very much having fun when some of the best deaths by both sites.
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don't forget the best songs from the soundtrack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FfB09Wie6yk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tj-edq36_gk
I give it two days before someone mashes up Gurren lagann to this film.
*looks in Youtube*
Wow they work fast.
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I didn't see the Gurren lagann one.
though I concede the second one and it's tie in caught me off guard this soon.
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I didn't see the Gurren lagann one.
though I concede the second one and it's tie in caught me off guard this soon.
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybE7UYL3eo
It is one of the better attempts on the trailer from what I currently see.
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What a cornball movie.
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It was awesome!!
I noticed that Gypsy Danger pulled off a foghorn/Inception noise every time she wound up a huge punch. Also, finally a kickass girl co-star! She was freakin awesome! The score was really repetitive but somehow it worked.
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This was everything I wanted in an homage to the big giant robots of the 80s. Thank you, Guillermo del Toro!
Saw it in a theatre with 20 of my friends... yeah, twenty of us. They were laughing and screaming with an otherwise shocked crowd. Saw it in Ultra AVX 3D and had a blast.
Didn't have popcorn or drinks since I didn't wanna miss a minute of this.
Need to see it again.
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I'm going to completely beat my skull in now, because they're making REALLY esoteric references with the comic (thank you for the link, by the way) to stuff I thought was looooong buried. "Doctor Lightcap" is one of the scientists in the comic...does anyone remember the ancient G-Force dub of Gatchaman? The one starring...DOCTOR BRIGHTHEAD.
Well played, you sly ********.
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Saw it yesterday, absolutely great popcorn movie . . . I will go see it again, probably Tuesday. Loved the soundtrack as well and it had all the right touches for what it was . . . the two hotshots fighting was right one que.
Reducing the scale a bit, it is exactly what I pictured a mechbay being like for BT. The PPDC Eagle also has a nice look I want to use, and the Jager pilot suits are just how I would picture a BA bodysuit, minus the hard plates. I thought it was interesting they were basically controlled the same way the protomechs would.
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I noticed that Gypsy Danger pulled off a foghorn/Inception noise every time she wound up a huge punch. Also, finally a kickass girl co-star! She was freakin awesome! The score was really repetitive but somehow it worked.
I'm sure you also noticed who was the voice of the Jaeger A.I....
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Is it just, or could they have pulled off the Jaegers with just swords and plasma cannons? The slugging and some of the ranged weapons seemed rather ineffective, but when they started pulling out the swords, the kaiju seemed to drop like flies.
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Well . . . the only one to have a sword was Gypsy, and it had been rebuilt.
I think the punching was to get it to hold still enough for the charging plasma cannons to fire.
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I'm sure you also noticed who was the voice of the Jaeger A.I....
Of course! :)
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The score was really repetitive but somehow it worked.
The "gearing up" music at the beginning when they're suiting up (Amazon tells me the track is just called 'Pacific Rim') had me so pumped it was ridiculous. I felt like such a kid.
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Is it just, or could they have pulled off the Jaegers with just swords and plasma cannons? The slugging and some of the ranged weapons seemed rather ineffective, but when they started pulling out the swords, the kaiju seemed to drop like flies.
Didn't one of the swords shatter after being deployed from a lateral kaiju "fist" strike? My assumption would be that they are fragile.....
....Or that this is a super robot movie, and Super Robots have to use their FISTS! ;D
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When I went and saw it I was wearing a Battletech TShirt!
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Didn't one of the swords shatter after being deployed from a lateral kaiju "fist" strike? My assumption would be that they are fragile.....
....Or that this is a super robot movie, and Super Robots have to use their FISTS! ;D
I think it got torn free from its mounting.
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Yeah, Gypsy had something that looked like a chainsaw and snapped into place. Eureka had retractable blades, which only appeared when it was cornered.
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Yeah, Gypsy had something that looked like a chainsaw and snapped into place. Eureka had retractable blades, which only appeared when it was cornered.
Gipsy's weapons were Prog Blades (from Evangelion).
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Definitely a 'shut your brain off for a few hours' kind of movie- very enjoyable, though parts made no sense to me. The best way to use a Jaeger is... wrestling a kaiju down? Really? I never saw any of them utilize a ranged attack other than spitting acid (and then only from ONE), seems like going less 'fists of fury' and more of the missiles and such would be a better idea. There have to be some ruined warships around, can we get a couple of five-inch guns mounted up in the shoulder Shadow Hawk-style please? SOMETHING so I'm not fighting kaiju on their own terms?
That bothered me through the whole movie, but otherwise it was pretty good stuff. Typical summer fare-a bit of story wrapped in a spectacle-and I'm fine with that. At least, compared to Battleship, this had decent enough acting and a plot that made a passing attempt at making sense. Very intriguing universe they have here, I hope they expand on it a bit further...
...And while the ending makes it difficult to expand further on the kaiju themselves as an enemy (not impossible, of course), I admit I'm intrigued more than them anyway by the idea of the world that remains after that ending. Now we have cities walled off against attacks that will never come-at least from kaiju- and several nations who have the ability (even if none remain right now) to build jaegers. Looks like the potential for a pretty interesting arms race could brew up in the years following the end of the movie- and if we're being honest, who doesn't want to see a couple of jaegers beat the hell out of each other as part of a Pacific war?
(As an aside, did it seem like there wasn't any point to the Chinese and Russian teams other than 'go die'? At least the Chinese landed a few good hits before dropping, did the Russians land one hit before going down? I was looking forward to seeing what their jaeger could do, and was deeply disappointed in that regard.)
I'd give it a solid B- entertaining and beautiful, but I'd have loved a little more plot- it feels like there's a huge universe here, and we saw very little of it. I want more.
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Definitely a 'shut your brain off for a few hours' kind of movie- very enjoyable, though parts made no sense to me. The best way to use a Jaeger is... wrestling a kaiju down?
I have the prequel comic, and I think it addresses that. Perhaps not plausibly :) but someone states that for XYZ reason, beating the crap out the kaiju is the way to go.
(As an aside, did it seem like there wasn't any point to the Chinese and Russian teams other than 'go die'? At least the Chinese landed a few good hits before dropping, did the Russians land one hit before going down? I was looking forward to seeing what their jaeger could do, and was deeply disappointed in that regard.)
I bet things got cut from the movie. Unless I dreamt it (which is very possible given my infatuation with this movie), one of the trailers shows Cherno Alpha charging up it's Tesla fists to zap a kaiju. And I don't remember that happening in the film.
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Most weapons fire doesn't seem to penetrate the hide/armor.
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Also I think there was some material in the comic that explained ripping through the monsters at range caused acid-blood to spatter too far and was a Very Bad Thing.
The plasma cannon may also only work at point-blank range.
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Interesting film—it decidedly marches to the beat of its own drum, and sets its own standard while doing so. I thoroughly enjoyed the fresh style Del Toro was able to infuse here. Naturally, Idris Elba stole the show, absolutely nailing his command role. I would say this is going to be another cult, smash favorite-- along a similar vein as Big Trouble in Little China. I mean, it certainly had a lot of quirky humor, and never took itself too seriously. At the same time though, it was full of absolutely epic cinematography, and holding strong at a solid 70%+ rating on Rotten Tomatoes kind of takes it beyond ‘cult classic’ status. It seems like giant fighting robots are starting to appeal to the masses (when done appropriately). This is no Transformers train wreck (thank you Del Toro!). It’s also no Neon Genesis Evangelion ether (mostly good news here). The Misses and I both thought it was great, which I think speaks to the broad appeal of the characters/story arc. In the end though, I do kind of side with JadeHellbie-- I want more guns, and a larger universe. Still thought it a solid B, for me. Great 'fun' summer flick.
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The movie and prequel comic seem to point to a lot of earlier Jaegars being designed for fighting with nuclear combat capabilities, and the heavy armor of Cherno Alpha seems to back up the idea. Coyote Tango (http://www.pacificrim-movie.net/media/coyote_tango_trading_card.jpg)which appears in flashback in the movie had two cannons on its back to fire nukes. In fact initially, the only thing that apparently brought down the Kaiju was nukes since we are shown fighters blazing away at the things to the usually JSDF level of accomplishment: not effective at all.
So in the tradition of good old fashioned Japanese Monster Movies and Sentai, you hit the thing with blunt force trauma to kill it. In fact that was what Coyote Tango kind of proved since it had the capabilities to fire nukes, but what killed the giant enemy crab apparently named Onibaba in Tokyo in 2016 in flashbacks was Coyote Tango just pummeling it to death. Unlike Cherno Alpha, Tango, also a Mark I, had been designed with lighter armor for better movement, and if you look at future Jaegars with Tango as a base, you'd see that all the descendants models that we know about are refinements on its design. Less bulk with better movement capabilities seemed to work a whole lot better than nuking the things from range.
Because sometimes, lobbing missiles and ammo at a target depending on the armor is about as effective as throwing spitballs. Though the only Mark V Jaegar, Striker Eureka, brought back missile attacks which seem to be quite effective against Class 2 Kaiju.
On that note, Pacific Rim was awesome. No further words are needed except . . . the Japanese Dub Cast is hilarious on a meta level and needs to be included on the Blu-Ray.
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finally got to see this movie...and I've been shaking ever since!!!!! What a great movie!! Sooo much action, and despite the fact that characters were not actually the main point of this movie I likes them, even the ****** son. Mako Mori and Alba's character crazy badass, and Raleigh was very likeable as a person. Alba's badassery was cemented in his line 'one, don't ever touch me, two, don't ever touch me.' . This is firmly one of my favourite movies of all time! The problem is now I want more! The year preceeding this would be very interesting to see, especially the 'golden age' of kaiju slaying.
I recommend that anyone who has the time or funds to see it should.
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The best way to use a Jaeger is... wrestling a kaiju down?
You don't understand, the Jaegers are trying to communicate with the kaiju, and the only way super robots can communicate is with their fists!
On that note, Pacific Rim was awesome. No further words are needed except . . . the Japanese Dub Cast is hilarious on a meta level and needs to be included on the Blu-Ray.
Oh, Gad! Who'd they get, and did Ms. Kikuchi dub herself?
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finally got to see this movie...and I've been shaking ever since!!!!! What a great movie!! Sooo much action, and despite the fact that characters were not actually the main point of this movie I likes them, even the ****** son. Mako Mori and Alba's character crazy badass, and Raleigh was very likeable as a person. Alba's badassery was cemented in his line 'one, don't ever touch me, two, don't ever touch me.' . This is firmly one of my favourite movies of all time! The problem is now I want more! The year preceeding this would be very interesting to see, especially the 'golden age' of kaiju slaying.
I recommend that anyone who has the time or funds to see it should.
I loved that line too. I called it, he was quite bad ass in the movie. Wouldn't of mind to see a little more of him thru the movie.
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Is Coyote Tango's back-mounted cannons supposed to be evocative of Evangelion Unit 01? (I've never watched that show, so I'm ignorant)
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Is Coyote Tango's back-mounted cannons supposed to be evocative of Evangelion Unit 01? (I've never watched that show, so I'm ignorant)
I doubt it. EVA-01 never had back mounted cannons to my knowledge.
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I doubt it. EVA-01 never had back mounted cannons to my knowledge.
Those shoulder blade thingies.
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Is Coyote Tango's back-mounted cannons supposed to be evocative of Evangelion Unit 01? (I've never watched that show, so I'm ignorant)
Eva 01's fins? Those are basically used as a backpack most of the time: the progressive knive and other weapons pop up there. I once heard that they had a more divine reason for being: they were suppose to hold the wings of the unit.
No Coyoto Tango's cannons are more like a Shadow Hawks.
Oh, Gad! Who'd they get, and did Ms. Kikuchi dub herself?
Nope, they got a little bit more meta about it. Mako is voiced by Megumi Hayashibara aka Lina Inverse, female Ranma, Rei Ayanami, and hundred of other female characters. It's obvious that the Japanese dub needed to have Mako being more bombastic like only Lina Inverse could be. It couldn't be because of blue hair. Nope. Since, I have not heard Hayashibara's performance, I could be completely wrong which voice she used.
Herc Hansen got dubbed by Shuichi Ikeda which means that Striker Eureka should have been red to be three times faster. And sadly you have to wait for the end for a conversation between Char and Amuro, Tohru Furuya plays Dr. Newton Geizler.
In fact, most of the actors in the Japanese dub have some connection to Gundam or other giant robot anime. And I've yet to discover who plays Hannibal Chou sadly.
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Those shoulder blade thingies.
The fold-back canons are more evocative of Gundam's Guncannon (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a0/Ms_guncannon.gif) to me.
EVA-01's large shoulder plates are a combination of protection for the neck and upper back where the pilot is inserted, and weapon storage.
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very enjoyable, though parts made no sense to me. The best way to use a Jaeger is... wrestling a kaiju down? Really? I never saw any of them utilize a ranged attack other than spitting acid (and then only from ONE), seems like going less 'fists of fury' and more of the missiles and such would be a better idea.
Genre conceipt. Super robots are all about the punchy punchy for the main part of the fight. And while you do have guns on a lot of them, it's usually a melee weapon that's the finishing blow.
There's a reason I was clapping like a gleeful child when Gipsy Danger pulled out a sword.
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A friend of mine talked me into seeing this movie six months ago by describing it as Stringer Bell from The Wire and Charlie from Always Sunny in Philadelphia team up to fight giant monsters with equally giant robots. After seeing the movie, I can say they weren't far off.
Cheers,
LCC
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Major sensory overload.... [drool] Planning on writing my review for later this week.
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I saw it in 3D.. my only complaint was the RAIN was in 3D. Even the occasional droplet of water stuck to the 'camera'. Other than those distractions however, the movie was indeed awesome.
Awesome on the level of it being criminal to NOT see it. But, of course with reference to the OP it has nothing in common with BattleTech other than them both being of the Giant Stompy Robot genre. It could potentially serve as a gateway to introducing friends to the game.
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I saw it today, and yes it did seem odd that ranged weapons weren't used. The Plasma guns on the one arm obviously have some range, when they checked for a "pulse". Sure we see in the opening fight with conventional forces bullets literally bouncing off the Kaiju's scales. But in the end the thing still died from conventional weapons. Seriously though they couldn't come up with a Jaeger sized rifle or a use of supporting missile fire? And who's bright idea is a wall of life anyway? Or how about once you figure out the timing of when the big old bad monsters come out of the rift, stationing a few ships on the surface and dropping nuclear depth charges?
My main issue would be that the Jaeger production had been cancelled though. Its a weapon system that works, even if the tide is turning against them in a one on one fight, so why not deploy more Jaegers at a time? Each of those bases should have been sending out a dozen for every Kaiju, not one or two.
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The prequel novel actually says they ultimately had to stop the first Kaiju's with nukes.
The other IC issue with the things is that Kaiju blood/bits create a toxin when it decomposes, and ranged weapons tend to blast bits of them all over the place.
OOC it's a genre conceit. When giant robots or kaiju fight in the source media, it's almost always hand to hand. That's also why most of the fights were one on one.
(as a note, no one's ever figure out an exact timing for when the rifts open. That was sorta a plot point)
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Blood and bits create a toxin? Seriously? They were tearing pieces off and scattering them about anyway with hand to hand combat anyway so why not make use of ballistic weapons? The Aussie Jaeger made use of Rockets/Shells? as a weapon system so its not a unknown weapon system.
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WWMZD? (What would Mazinger Z do?)
Would it carry around a shoulder-mounted Scud launcher to plaster an opponent?
Hell no! There's no pagentry in it!
Mazinger Z is going to punch it in the face because that's how super robot pilots express their passion, and if the monster is too far away to reach, a super robot will simply have to attach rockets to its fists so it can reach!
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WWMZD? (What would Mazinger Z do?)
I need to keep this one. [rockon]
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I bet things got cut from the movie. Unless I dreamt it (which is very possible given my infatuation with this movie), one of the trailers shows Cherno Alpha charging up it's Tesla fists to zap a kaiju. And I don't remember that happening in the film.
I've heard that more than an hour of finished scenes had to be left off the screen owing to various constraints (like running-time), including a lot more bot-on-baddie action from the 'secondary' Jaegers.
I can't WAIT to buy that DVD. [drool]
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A friend of mine talked me into seeing this movie six months ago by describing it as Stringer Bell from The Wire and Charlie from Always Sunny in Philadelphia team up to fight giant monsters with equally giant robots. After seeing the movie, I can say they weren't far off.
Cheers,
LCC
And don't forget Jax and Clay from Sons of Anarchy (if you watch that series...)
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I also noticed last night that Gypsy Danger follows the grand tradition of giving super robots names that start with G.
Gettar Robo, Gaogaigar, Godannar, Golion, Grendizer, Gurren Lagann, Gravion, Gainer, Giant Robo, Gaiking, Gekiganger, Gunbuster, God Gundam, Godmars, and now Gypsy Danger!
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I also noticed last night that Gypsy Danger follows the grand tradition of giving super robots names that start with G.
Gettar Robo, Gaogaigar, Godannar, Golion, Grendizer, Gurren Lagann, Gravion, Gainer, Giant Robo, Gaiking, Gekiganger, Gunbuster, God Gundam, Godmars, and now Gypsy Danger!
Gypsy Danger?
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Main character's robot. They all got fancy names, even the monsters. None of this pansy Robot One and Monster #2 crap. 8)
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Main character's robot. They all got fancy names, even the monsters. None of this pansy Robot One and Monster #2 crap. 8)
Yup: the main 'hero' machine is Gipsy Danger (the spelling is apparently deliberate). The three-armed Chinese Jager is Crimson Typhoon, the blocky Russian one is Cherno Alpha, and the Australian machine with the chest-missiles and the highest kill-record in history is Striker Eureka. We also see a few moments of Coyote Tango, a three-second TV-clip of Tacit Ronin during the 'rock-star years', and post-battle imagery of a whole lot of Jagers that crashed-and-burned. :'(
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My main issue would be that the Jaeger production had been cancelled though.
Complete supposition: The powers that be were preparing their nuke/kaiju-proof bunkers. The economy was wrecked, people were despondent except for folks worshiping the kaiju, and the jagers weren't working. I'm sure the powers that be would be facing down a cataclysmic (and personally injurious) societal breakdown. They publicized a cheap wall to keep folks upbeat and distracted while they used resources to cover their quiet, stage left exuant to either wait the kaiju out or precipitate a nuclear winter and then wait them out in accordance with the plans of the kaiju's masters.
If that was the case though, you'd expect them to at least be competent enough to prevent a stress-test of the wall (like what happened in Sydney) until after they vanished, so maybe they're just morons.
....Or that this is a super robot movie, and Super Robots have to use their FISTS! ;D
Yes. Thank you. Damage dealt by attacks in Pacific Rim isn't based on physics or consistency; it's dealt strictly according to the rule of cool.
Idris Elba stole the show, absolutely nailing his command role.
Dude was amazing. The scenes where he slaps down Hiro Protagonist (no, I don't remember his name) were just fantastic.
The problem is now I want more! The year preceeding this would be very interesting to see, especially the 'golden age' of kaiju slaying.
Indeed. It does such a great job of covering the first 12(?) years of the war that it's one of the few movies that sets itself up for a prequel I'd love to watch.
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Was I the only one (or am I behind the curve on this) who got a Dougram/Fang of the Sun vibe from the way they deployed the Jaegers by heavy lift-helos?
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Dude was amazing. The scenes where he slaps down Hiro Protagonist (no, I don't remember his name) were just fantastic.
His name is Raleigh Becket. It's actually one of the points he and the douchebag pilot get into an argument about.
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Blood and bits create a toxin? Seriously? They were tearing pieces off and scattering them about anyway with hand to hand combat anyway so why not make use of ballistic weapons? The Aussie Jaeger made use of Rockets/Shells? as a weapon system so its not a unknown weapon system.
Because it causes less splatter. What would you rather have, a toxic waste zone in a 1 km square area or a toxic waste zone in a 90 km square area?
Considering every other ranged weapon used on the things, I suspect that Striker Eureka's missiles are kinetic+incendiary based too. IE, good old drill missiles.
Which is still missing the point that it's a genre conceit. They don't have giant ballistic cannon because giant robots of the style the robots are based on aren't supposed to have giant ballistic cannon. It's like complaining cause Voltron waits until the end of the fight to use the sword instead of getting it out first thing, or that Mazinger-Z waits until the end to fire its giant chest beam. Any big weapon on a Jaeger is going to be a finishing move. (Like Gipsy Danger's plasma caster) On the opposite end of things, It's like complaining that Battletech doesn't have anti-armor missiles that can usually one shot kill an opposing mech, or that realistically MG's shouldn't be limited to 90m. It's not what they're going for. Sure, they'll have a go at it, but it's still going to be an excuse to match up the type of action they want.
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Yup: the main 'hero' machine is Gipsy Danger (the spelling is apparently deliberate). The three-armed Chinese Jager is Crimson Typhoon, the blocky Russian one is Cherno Alpha, and the Australian machine with the chest-missiles and the highest kill-record in history is Striker Eureka. We also see a few moments of Coyote Tango, a three-second TV-clip of Tacit Ronin during the 'rock-star years', and post-battle imagery of a whole lot of Jagers that crashed-and-burned. :'(
There all meant to be different generations of machines I think. The Cherno Alpha was first generation, not sure about Crimson Typhoon, Gipsy Danger is third generation and the Striker Eureka, the Aussie one was one of the last built and was called Fifth Generation I think, or maybe its production run thing.
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There all meant to be different generations of machines I think. The Cherno Alpha was first generation, not sure about Crimson Typhoon, Gipsy Danger is third generation and the Striker Eureka, the Aussie one was one of the last built and was called Fifth Generation I think, or maybe its production run thing.
Striker was indeed a Mark.V - the first produced. And last, owing to the cancellation of the Jaeger programme. ::) Crimson Typhoon was a Mark.IV, according to the wikia.
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Don't know if someone has posted this already (sorry if you have), but apparently there's an "Atlantic Rim." Same theme, it's a The Asylum mockbuster. Might be good stuff for a RiffTrax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Rim_%28film%29
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Yes, I have to say Idris Elba definitely nailed the commanding officer vibe with the 3 things. I think he is definately in the running for the next 'Best TV/Movie commander' . . . does he beat Will Adama?
I am also looking forward to someone putting in rules for VTOL dropping mechs as demonstrated in Pacific Rim.
So who do we start soliciting to get the Marshall's story, fighting solo in his Mk I, knowing the reactor is cooking him?
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Don't know if someone has posted this already (sorry if you have), but apparently there's an "Atlantic Rim." Same theme, it's a The Asylum mockbuster. Might be good stuff for a RiffTrax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Rim_%28film%29
Is that going to be a Syfy Staturday night movie?
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I'd have to say with coyote tango being the fastest of the jaegers and the sprint in Hong Kong Bay qualifies him to be Char. Was Kamiya Akira involved in the japanese dub as well?
Eva 01's fins? Those are basically used as a backpack most of the time: the progressive knive and other weapons pop up there. I once heard that they had a more divine reason for being: they were suppose to hold the wings of the unit.
No Coyoto Tango's cannons are more like a Shadow Hawks.
Nope, they got a little bit more meta about it. Mako is voiced by Megumi Hayashibara aka Lina Inverse, female Ranma, Rei Ayanami, and hundred of other female characters. It's obvious that the Japanese dub needed to have Mako being more bombastic like only Lina Inverse could be. It couldn't be because of blue hair. Nope. Since, I have not heard Hayashibara's performance, I could be completely wrong which voice she used.
Herc Hansen got dubbed by Shuichi Ikeda which means that Striker Eureka should have been red to be three times faster. And sadly you have to wait for the end for a conversation between Char and Amuro, Tohru Furuya plays Dr. Newton Geizler.
In fact, most of the actors in the Japanese dub have some connection to Gundam or other giant robot anime. And I've yet to discover who plays Hannibal Chou sadly.
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Is that going to be a Syfy Staturday night movie?
Don't know, though it certainly sounds like a Syfy candidate. Judging by the trailer, it definitely has the production quality (take that statement however you want :P):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVpQmZmKNmo
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I saw it today, and yes it did seem odd that ranged weapons weren't used. The Plasma guns on the one arm obviously have some range, when they checked for a "pulse". Sure we see in the opening fight with conventional forces bullets literally bouncing off the Kaiju's scales.
Coyote Tango (the one from the Tokyo dream/memory sequence) used autocannons that looked much like the Shadow Hawk's, one over each shoulder. But long range weapons were phased out as Jaegers were upgraded because simple brute force trauma (punching) left less toxic residue seeping into the environment. Also, Rule of Cool says punching and kicking > shooting. It might be battletech to shoot it with your gauss, but most of the time in giant robot fiction it comes down to physical fighting.
But in the end the thing still died from conventional weapons. Seriously though they couldn't come up with a Jaeger sized rifle or a use of supporting missile fire? And who's bright idea is a wall of life anyway? Or how about once you figure out the timing of when the big old bad monsters come out of the rift, stationing a few ships on the surface and dropping nuclear depth charges?
Nukes ended up having to be used to stop the first few Kaiju. (the movie showed how fighter jets & other conventional units were useless) Jaegers were created to avoid having to keep using nukes, which do even more damage to a city than a giant monster rampaging in it.
As for why not station subs/ships with nukes and blow 'em up as they come out of the rift? Because then we wouldn't have robot vs monster fights. Rule of Cool, man! And I guess because they didn't want to incentivize the Kaiju into evolving ways to come out of the rift stealthy-like.
My main issue would be that the Jaeger production had been cancelled though. Its a weapon system that works, even if the tide is turning against them in a one on one fight, so why not deploy more Jaegers at a time? Each of those bases should have been sending out a dozen for every Kaiju, not one or two.
Plot device man! There's only a few Jaegers left.. every time one goes down it's that much more of a punch because there's no more to fill in!
Plus, committees do plenty of stupid things. It's hardly implausible, especially for a large bureaucracy, to decide that Jaegers are too expensive to continue to develop and produce, only to go instead with an even MORE expensive, unproven option.
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It might be battletech to shoot it with your gauss, but most of the time in giant robot fiction it comes down to physical fighting.
Well, yeah! Tanks can shoot each other, but it takes a giant robot to kick something in the face!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s_QDqMOftE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s_QDqMOftE)
:o
That didn't take very long.
:)
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/06/19-1/pacific-rim-japanese-voice-cast-announced
Found what I was looking for.
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/06/19-1/pacific-rim-japanese-voice-cast-announced
Found what I was looking for.
And when this hits Japanese theatres in early August, that cast-list means that the audience reaction will blow roofs off in San Diego. :o [notworthy]
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Well, yeah! Tanks can shoot each other, but it takes a giant robot to kick something in the face!
That was, in fact, Rhonda Snord's argument for why 'Mechs are better than tanks.
"I don't know about you, but I've never seen a tank jumping up and down on the burning wreckage of a BattleMech."
(Cue the Kanga victory reel :D )
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I just spent 2 minutes giggling at your "Bird of Blake" avatar, Mendrugo.
Planning to see this again tonight, half-price tuesdays woo.
I dunno how you guys feel about Facebook apps, but I was playing around with this earlier: http://apps.warnerbros.com/pacificrim/designer/us/
Made myself a "Maple Wolverine" to defend the British Columbia/Yukon coastline. I need a name that fits with their conventions better...
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for a canadian jaeger you definitely have to make it white, and ot has to have 'bonhomme' in the name O0
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for a canadian jaeger you definitely have to make it white, and ot has to have 'bonhomme' in the name O0
QFT
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It is white! Or white-ish.
I wonder if there's a toque option...
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As a note, there was an offician Canadian Jaeger. 'Chrome Brutus'
It joins the ranks of the fallen alongside Brawler Yukon, Diablo Intercept, and Vulcan Specter.
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Complete supposition: The powers that be were preparing their nuke/kaiju-proof bunkers. The economy was wrecked, people were despondent except for folks worshiping the kaiju, and the jagers weren't working. I'm sure the powers that be would be facing down a cataclysmic (and personally injurious) societal breakdown. They publicized a cheap wall to keep folks upbeat and distracted while they used resources to cover their quiet, stage left exuant to either wait the kaiju out or precipitate a nuclear winter and then wait them out in accordance with the plans of the kaiju's masters.
If that was the case though, you'd expect them to at least be competent enough to prevent a stress-test of the wall (like what happened in Sydney) until after they vanished, so maybe they're just morons.
Yes. Thank you. Damage dealt by attacks in Pacific Rim isn't based on physics or consistency; it's dealt strictly according to the rule of cool.
Dude was amazing. The scenes where he slaps down Hiro Protagonist (no, I don't remember his name) were just fantastic.
Indeed. It does such a great job of covering the first 12(?) years of the war that it's one of the few movies that sets itself up for a prequel I'd love to watch.
Course they could just as easily justify the masters (some not wiped out by the meltdown blast) opening another portal... perhaps elsewhere.... like on the moon. Then they could start it up again... in SPAAAAAAAAAACE!!! Since we've opened up the gundam refrences already. ;D
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I'd have to say with coyote tango being the fastest of the jaegers and the sprint in Hong Kong Bay qualifies him to be Char. Was Kamiya Akira involved in the japanese dub as well?
Oh come on, a Char theme Jaegar has to be red to keep the fanboys happy. Thus I took up the cause. And since I can add the chainsword from the Gypsy Diver, I named it the Ramba Eagle (https://twitter.com/Duke_Harlock/status/357173241804107777/photo/1). It's no Zaku, boy. No Zaku.
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As far as Pacific Rim goes I'm very excited for it, but never really saw it in terms of Battletech. I saw it as a westernized Evangelion without the problems of being written by a guy undergoing a mental breakdown.
This. The preview also struck me as a live-action Evangelion without the extra fluff thrown in. Which is okay, I suppose.
Seyla. :)
I saw this on Friday in Imax 3D, it was definately worth the money.
My friend and I both had the same note about the movie. They REAALLY caught the swagger of a mech pilot. The way the rest of the people looked up to them as heroes.
I couldn't help getting the feeling that with the limited amount of Jaegers this is closer to what the Dark Ages was supposed to be with the scarceness of big machines to defend the realm ;) Just an afterthought really...
Anywho, Great Movie :)
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I just saw it again in an afternoon showing . . . and the weird thing was half the crowd, small as it was, were gray hairs! Mostly grannies!
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I just saw it again in an afternoon showing . . . and the weird thing was half the crowd, small as it was, were gray hairs! Mostly grannies!
during the weekdays most people are working and retires not wanting to deal with huge crowd tend to prefer weekday showing so it not uncommon for the older generation to be there.
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Yes, I have to say Idris Elba definitely nailed the commanding officer vibe with the 3 things. I think he is definately in the running for the next 'Best TV/Movie commander' . . . does he beat Will Adama?
I am also looking forward to someone putting in rules for VTOL dropping mechs as demonstrated in Pacific Rim.
So who do we start soliciting to get the Marshall's story, fighting solo in his Mk I, knowing the reactor is cooking him?
they might already exist, considering the now cannon Insect-looking VTOL the DCMS has in it's bag of skills post REVIVAL. That machine can carry a Daishi and they already been used in that fashion, can't remember the name however...
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Saw it this morning and enjoyed it immensely. The question in my mind is why weren't there fixed defences at the rift...Or even a garrison of Jagers? Would seem to be more effective than just letting them out and going wherever.
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I just saw it again in an afternoon showing . . . and the weird thing was half the crowd, small as it was, were gray hairs! Mostly grannies!
Yeah, but remember those are the people who remember seeing Godzilla films in the theaters when they were kids...
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I saw it last night and greatly enjoyed it. Yeah, it was definitely genre, but it didn't make me feel stupid for liking it.
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Nope, I got it too. I just think not all that many people have seen Sun of the Fang Dougram to know about it.
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That's a rather depressing thought. Everyone should have seen Dougram, it was a classic despite the 80s animation. Same with VOTOMS and a couple of other obscure ones that really deserve not to be obscure.
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The Russians' helmets in this film actually reminded a friend and I of a Scope Dog, actually.
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Yeah, but remember those are the people who remember seeing Godzilla films in the theaters when they were kids...
Um, I'm old enought to remember seein a godzilla film in theaters.
It was only 10 years ago
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Um, I'm old enought to remember seein a godzilla film in theaters.
It was only 10 years ago
No, you don't. That never happened.
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Um, I'm old enought to remember seein a godzilla film in theaters.
It was only 10 years ago
Yeah, no . Not a Godzilla film. Barely qualifies as a film.
I'm talking the old man-in-suit classic Godzillas.
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Yeah, no . Not a Godzilla film. Barely qualifies as a film.
I'm talking the old man-in-suit classic Godzillas.
I could've sworn I saw Final Wars in the theater. That was 2004 ;)
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I could've sworn I saw Final Wars in the theater. That was 2004 ;)
Okay, I'll grant you that.
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Definitely a 'shut your brain off for a few hours' kind of movie- very enjoyable, though parts made no sense to me. The best way to use a Jaeger is... wrestling a kaiju down? Really? I never saw any of them utilize a ranged attack other than spitting acid (and then only from ONE), seems like going less 'fists of fury' and more of the missiles and such would be a better idea. There have to be some ruined warships around, can we get a couple of five-inch guns mounted up in the shoulder Shadow Hawk-style please? SOMETHING so I'm not fighting kaiju on their own terms?
That bothered me through the whole movie, but otherwise it was pretty good stuff. Typical summer fare-a bit of story wrapped in a spectacle-and I'm fine with that. At least, compared to Battleship, this had decent enough acting and a plot that made a passing attempt at making sense. Very intriguing universe they have here, I hope they expand on it a bit further...
...And while the ending makes it difficult to expand further on the kaiju themselves as an enemy (not impossible, of course), I admit I'm intrigued more than them anyway by the idea of the world that remains after that ending. Now we have cities walled off against attacks that will never come-at least from kaiju- and several nations who have the ability (even if none remain right now) to build jaegers. Looks like the potential for a pretty interesting arms race could brew up in the years following the end of the movie- and if we're being honest, who doesn't want to see a couple of jaegers beat the hell out of each other as part of a Pacific war?
(As an aside, did it seem like there wasn't any point to the Chinese and Russian teams other than 'go die'? At least the Chinese landed a few good hits before dropping, did the Russians land one hit before going down? I was looking forward to seeing what their jaeger could do, and was deeply disappointed in that regard.)
I'd give it a solid B- entertaining and beautiful, but I'd have loved a little more plot- it feels like there's a huge universe here, and we saw very little of it. I want more.
Cherno Alpha had a massive hammerfist strike on Leatherback (?) and a couple body-blows. I remember it because Alpha had such a different fighting style (slugfest!) than Crimson Typhoon (swirling blades of death), it was very stark in contrast.
Ranged weapons would be less effective. Aside from kaiju hide being super-touch, those ****** could MOVE. Dodging fire would be relatively easy. Fighting the kaiju was all about closing in, holding them down, and shoving as many plasma charges into their bodies as possible. :)
And yes, the movie was amazeballs. We saw it in 3D IMAX and I'm jonesing for another screening. (Those who know me and my movie habits...that's a rare thing.)
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I could've sworn I saw Final Wars in the theater. That was 2004 ;)
Never heard of it.
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Never heard of it.
It was Toho's response to the American Godzilla. The man-in-a-rubber-suit fights a whoooole bunch of giant monsters, including a simulacrum of said American Godzilla.
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...you've told me everything I need to know. I must see this movie now. I must witness the king defending his throne with naught but his fists, grit, and halitosis!
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...you've told me everything I need to know. I must see this movie now. I must witness the king defending his throne with naught but his fists, grit, and halitosis!
I cannot believe that you folks dare post on a "geek" forum without having seen Godzilla: Final Wars. I am very, very disappointed in all of you.
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Truly, my geek-fu is weak. Fortunately, this is a shortcoming that I can
RECTIFY. :D
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Don't forget Godzilla 2000.... I saw that one in theaters..... the one where he battles the mighty morphing UFO..... ;D
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Cherno Alpha had a massive hammerfist strike on Leatherback (?) and a couple body-blows. I remember it because Alpha had such a different fighting style (slugfest!) than Crimson Typhoon (swirling blades of death), it was very stark in contrast.
"you may move gracefully, but when I hit someone, they stay hit a long time."
On a side note, i think C.Alpha probably had that fight locked before the scale gorilla ambushed the fight. if S.Eureka had intercepted they might have reversed the situation rather handily, but the commander was playing too conservative and let his force get chewed up piecemeal. luckily G.Danger is equipped with an integral Fiat turbine. ;D
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It was Toho's response to the American Godzilla. The man-in-a-rubber-suit fights a whoooole bunch of giant monsters, including a simulacrum of said American Godzilla.
you now have my attention.
...you've told me everything I need to know. I must see this movie now. I must witness the king defending his throne with naught but his fists, grit, and halitosis!
Indeed, we must view this in order to cleanse ourselves of the horrible movie that shall not be named.
Much like when I lent you Transfomers Prime to cleanse the Bay away.
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That's a rather depressing thought. Everyone should have seen Dougram, it was a classic despite the 80s animation. Same with VOTOMS and a couple of other obscure ones that really deserve not to be obscure.
It happens, Dougram was never released in the United States. Votoms was decades later, via VHS and Later DVD sales. Neither was ever aired as far i know in the US. Dougram is amazing series, from beginning to end for when it came out. Votoms had some recent new releases last year (?) with three different takes on the original plot. However, i don't think they got very far with the audience. I saw least two of them, didn't feel like they finished one of them. Interesting Stuff.
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It was Toho's response to the American Godzilla. The man-in-a-rubber-suit fights a whoooole bunch of giant monsters, including a simulacrum of said American Godzilla.
Actually Toho's response to American Godzilla was Godzilla 2000 that was made year after American Godzilla was shown in Japan. Godzilla Final Wards is latest one that features every monster from Godzilla movies. Next year Toho is going to release new Godzilla movie. It takes people in Toho to make justice to king of Monsters. Besides for years Godzilla has not been guy in rubber suit.
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you now have my attention.
Indeed, we must view this in order to cleanse ourselves of the horrible movie that shall not be named.
Much like when I lent you Transfomers Prime to cleanse the Bay away.
Viewing party!
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No, you don't. That never happened.
that is correct the last time Godzilla was in American movie theater was Godzilla 2000 which feature Godzilla was one of the new space monster orga (I think) Final Wars is the last Godzilla film, but it was never release in American theater. Final war did feature Godzilla at his beast killing nearly all his early alias and enemies from the first incarnation before sneaking two new monster for the modern era. Zilla who got his butt kick within a few second and monster X
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And Monster X turned out to be King Chidora, Godzilla's most classic enemy. That alone made that fight even more epic.
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So apparently, there's a 'What's your Pacific Rim name' 'game' spreading, ala Hannibal Chau.
Take your favorite historical figure.
Take the name of your favorite Resteraunt.
GATTAI!
Mine's either Adams McNally or Patton Tokyo
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Ramses Brookyln
William McDonald
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Hmm...if I switch it around a bit, I get Zios Rommel. I can work with that. 8)
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Hmm ... don't think I genuinely have a favorite historical figure, but Cyrus Carolina has a nice ring to it.
(Full disclosure, I haven't been able to see this one and probably wont until it's on Redbox. Yes, this saddens me greatly.)
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Dedos Mannerheim
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Damn, we're getting some real gems here!
I think I'm going to use this approach whenever naming any RP character, or 'mech pilot, or anything that isn't flat-out fantasy genre.
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Arthur Portillo would be mine, apparently.
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Moses Chipotle lacks gravitas.
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Moses Chipotle lacks gravitas.
Who needs gravitas when you're almost guaranteed to be a feisty latin warrior of love? O0
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Yeah, no . Not a Godzilla film. Barely qualifies as a film.
I'm talking the old man-in-suit classic Godzillas.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!
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Btw, my Pacific Rim name is apparently Charlemagne West Main St Diner.....uh.....
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Btw, my Pacific Rim name is apparently Charlemagne West Main St Diner.....uh.....
so what you are saying is:
Charlemagne West
or
Charlemagne Main
not sure how those sound :)
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Ulysses Harpoon?
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nuts I am just
Alexander Pizza
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Cesar Subway?? ??? ???
Craig
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Turing Dual. That kinda works, especially if you change Dual to Duel...
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Dantes San Vito.
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Ulysses Harpoon?
Greece's most renowned porn star.
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Nikolai Roma it is then?
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Dantes San Vito.
Damn, that's suave!
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Lincoln Chang
(Churchill Kreme was my second option :D)
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Great, I am Ulysses Lincoln. :P
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Alright, so how does one change one's forum name?
Belisarius Drifter is too good not to use.
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Maybe the Mods can change your name? Only way I can think of, other than opening a new account.
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Maybe the Mods can change your name? Only way I can think of, other than opening a new account.
Yeah, the rules are pretty ****** about 'starting over' with a new account. I'll give it some time for the novelty to wear off and see if I still must have it before pestering mods :D
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Dantes San Vito.
Oh, nice one... Sounds like the name for The Most Interesting Man in the World
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Marc Tandoori. Has an Asylum ring to it ...
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Genghis Ichiban.....
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Hey all, if'n it matters to you, I just got a pre-ordered copy of the PacRim HeroClix game. The Kaiju (Slattern, the Cat 5 one) and Gipsy Danger minis within, if removed from their bases, are close enough to the scale of IWM BattleTech minis as to not show a difference.
Which means that future Kaiju releases will fit on a gameboard and hexbase rather well for your next Deep Periphery campaign.
...just a thought.
(...Wierdo...)
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And comparative pictures showing the HeroClix models alongside a couple of BattleTech minis. The Catapult is of specific note, since it's a relatively large mini. The feet have all been leveled using stacked cards, so you're seeing the actual comparative height of the models within a millimeter or so.
Height
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/wolffe42/Minis/DSCF3225_zps5f423a30.jpg)
General Bulk
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/wolffe42/Minis/DSCF3227_zps62aa1cfc.jpg)
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going to have to pick up some of those pacific rim hero-clix, they look nice.
Pacific Rim name:
Cromwell Leonardo OR Oppenheimer Wing Lee.
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Just saw it in IMAX 3D last night! WOW! BADASS KOOL MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Moses Chipotle lacks gravitas.
Are you kidding? That's a frikkin AWESOME name O0
Belisarius Drifter
Nikolai Roma it is then?
These are winners too.
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Gladstone Gurkha
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Gladstone Gurkha
Screw naming a Pacific Rim character with that. That's a name for a JAEGER! [rockon]
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Boy that name thing is tough... I both am a foodie and a historical buff.... might have to just break em up by ethnic cuisine....
For Mexican It might be Santa Anna El Rancho
Italian, it could be Leonardo Carino's
Asian, the possibility is Ghengis Kyoto
American.... (which really could be broken down further) Lincoln Pops
German, it could be Ludwig Van Schilo's
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Screw naming a Pacific Rim character with that. That's a name for a JAEGER! [rockon]
Actualy that was what I though we were doing :)
Challenger
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Technically, the game is derived from one of the characters who made his own name up this way.
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Which 3145 Battletech character will the Marshall end up looking like?
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we'll probably have to wait till 3250 for that.
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Moses Chipotle lacks gravitas.
Frack gravitas good sir, you just made an excellent wrestling name!
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Obsessed with this soundtrack...Can't. Stop. Hitting. Replay.
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Yeah, I finally got the chance to listen to the track Trace linked six pages ago. These people are definitely getting my money.
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Frack gravitas
And you sir, just named another Jaeger
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I may keep that name for a WarShip! ;D
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My name would be somewhat lame: Ford Boomerang.
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My name would be somewhat lame: Ford Boomerang.
Unless you dress up like a WWI fighter pilot. Then you're stylin'. 8)
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My name would be somewhat lame: Ford Boomerang.
There is a chain of diners in Oklahoma similar to that name.... though they spell it Boom-a-rang.
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There is a chain of diners in Oklahoma similar to that name.... though they spell it Boom-a-rang.
I am referring to an Oklahoma one but not the one you're talking about:
http://www.boomeranggrille.com/ (http://www.boomeranggrille.com/)
Used to be one in Norman when we lived there that was our favoritest place to go.
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I am referring to an Oklahoma one but not the one you're talking about:
http://www.boomeranggrille.com/ (http://www.boomeranggrille.com/)
Used to be one in Norman when we lived there that was our favoritest place to go.
Ah yes, I think I've either seen one or at least heard of it.... though usually when we leave our immediate area I rarely feel like burger fare since there's plenty of tasty options nearby. I thought about one of my pacific rims names actually including What-a-burger, but I couldn't think of of a cool enough name to pair it with...
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I may keep that name for a WarShip! ;D
Inevitably, Iain M Banks was there first:
Very Little Gravitas Indeed
Zero Gravitas
Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall
Absence of Gravitas
Stood Far Back When The Gravitas Was Handed Out
Gravitas, What Gravitas?
Gravitas... Gravitas... No, Don't Help Me, I'll Get It In A Moment...
Gravitas Free Zone
Low Gravitas Warning Signal
Absolutely No You-Know-What
Und so weiter ...
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I may keep that name for a WarShip! ;D
If you actually print out a Warship with the name Frack Gravitas, it would be my honor to command it in Battleface. *salute*
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It'd be Starmada instead of Battleface, since the ships I use names like that for are my Kikoku ships. They're named for ships from books by-
...Iain M Banks...
...well, then! I may have to use some of those too! Given that the only Kikoku ships I possess in significant numbers are the corvettes, I guess this means I'll be renaming Unfortunate Conflict of Evidence and A Momentary Lapse of Sanity. Probably recycle those names onto destroyers or something.
...or pick another fleet, and go for names that are all gravitas, all the time.
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(http://shiar.nl/misc/tv/sf/shadow.jpg)
Firing gravitas beam ...
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Those guys just get unique clusters of little red dots on the base, to add to their alienness. I am considering picking up an NSL (http://fullthrust.star-ranger.com/NSLstats.htm) fleet in the near future, it might work for them.
But we should probably be talking about a particular beyond-awesome movie... :)
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I think one of my Pacific Rim names would be Genghis Freebird. My wife lays claim to Elizabeth Grand House, even though she did not see the movie.
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A Battletech movie could hope to be as awesome as this movie was O0 Seriously this was the most fun I have had watching a movie in...I can't honestly recall truth be told so that's saying something. Hopefully the overseas turn out for it will be enough to green light another movie, hopefully a prequel as a sequel would be rather hard as i the aliens open another portal the humans have no more Jaegers to fight them with.
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Just saw it last night and had fun. Even my wife was surprised at how much she liked it and she's neither the kaiju nor giant robot afficianado that I am.
BTW, Shakespear Ya Hala.
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A Battletech movie could hope to be as awesome as this movie was O0 Seriously this was the most fun I have had watching a movie in...I can't honestly recall truth be told so that's saying something. Hopefully the overseas turn out for it will be enough to green light another movie, hopefully a prequel as a sequel would be rather hard as i the aliens open another portal the humans have no more Jaegers to fight them with.
But then you get humans being really evil.
Step 1: clone the critters to get samples of their DNA
Step 2: Send a test probe towards the new breach to see if it goes through
Step 3: If it does, nuke them
Long-term plan:
Figure out how the alien Hive Mind works. Develop a receiver that can detect their rough thoughts. Develop a jammer to disrupt that network. Develop a transmitter to send what want back at them. Hard for the aliens to keep on adapting when their Kaiju can't phone home, and we are transmitting televangelists. >:D
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Del Toro already has stuff in mind if the first can make enough money.... http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1710434/pacific-rim-2-guillermo-del-toro.jhtml
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What I want in Pacific Rim 2: Nations stop being all goody-goody and clone their own kaiju. For defense, of course.
The Jaeger program is expanded even further, the alliances break up, creating new ones. Giant Robots and Giant Monsters fighting everywhere!!!
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What I want in Pacific Rim 2: Nations stop being all goody-goody and clone their own kaiju. For defense, of course.
The Jaeger program is expanded even further, the alliances break up, creating new ones. Giant Robots and Giant Monsters fighting everywhere!!!
I have a better idea. Pacific Rim: Year One.
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PacRim 2 plot capsule:
The masters of the kaiju make another assault upon Earth. While they are masters of bioshaping their titanic minions, they now begin to move into the realm of biological and technological fusion, creating massive hybrids of kaiju and machine that closely resemble the Jaegers themselves - better to combat the Jaegers on their own terms.
Meanwhile, the unified government on Earth has collapsed in the wake of the Wall of Life disasters. The Jaeger Corps, with their understrength and barely held-together machines, have divided among five new global hyperpowers With pilots signing on to the powers who offer the best terms of service, they are the neo-aristocracy, granted lands and titles as long as they agree to fight where and when they are commanded.
It is revealed that the Kaiju Masters are not some monolithic, species-wide hive mind, but are instead divided into tribal subgroupings (each with their own Hive Mind), each with their own Breach through which to invade. As the plot progresses, via the mindlink established by Dr. Newton Geiszler in the first film, we learn that only four of these tribes, or "Clans", are prosecuting the invasion of Earth, each with their own special moniker (the prideful Emerald Kestrels, the bloodthirsty Mist Leopards, and so forth). With their incredible new technology, the Kaiju Masters overrun much of the Asiatic Combine from the Pacific, and the German Commonwealth via the Baltic Breach.
Will the five hyperpowers and their JaegerWarriors be able to overcome their mutual loathing and join together to repel the Invaders, or will Terra fall before the Invasion? Find out, in Pacific Rim 2: Clan Invasion!
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That. Would. Be. AWESOME! ;D
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I'm pretty sure this is the inspiration for the ending....
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7668291072/h40A461B3/)
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Collins Toro Bravo.
Or Juiliano de Saint Germain, if I flip it around and feel like pizza.
Saw this last night on the IMAX 3-D, and while I am not a 3-D maven, I loved in. Del Tormo knew well enough to use the 3-D for texture rather than focus. As for the movie, it was absolutely perfect for what it was. It didn't try to be more than a comic book on screen; a popcorn extravaganza; and a love song to all things that spit in the face of the Square-Cube Law. A solid female lead that exists as her own character rather than a damsel in distress plot point or hyper-sexualized psudo-porn fetish (yes, Mr. Bay, I am looking at you.) Bad-ass commanders, GLaDOS's voice as the AI (and my favorite throw away line "Quick! Release the neurotoxin!") and Ron Perlman as himself. More or less. Some great bit parts (and larger) balance out that Maverick and Iceman could trade places for most of the film an no one would notice.
I will definatly get it when it comes out, probably get the OST, and maybe plop money down to see it again. It is absolutely a big (the bigger the better) screen film.
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PacRim 2 plot capsule:
The masters of the kaiju make another assault upon Earth. While they are masters of bioshaping their titanic minions, they now begin to move into the realm of biological and technological fusion, creating massive hybrids of kaiju and machine that closely resemble the Jaegers themselves - better to combat the Jaegers on their own terms.
Meanwhile, the unified government on Earth has collapsed in the wake of the Wall of Life disasters. The Jaeger Corps, with their understrength and barely held-together machines, have divided among five new global hyperpowers With pilots signing on to the powers who offer the best terms of service, they are the neo-aristocracy, granted lands and titles as long as they agree to fight where and when they are commanded.
It is revealed that the Kaiju Masters are not some monolithic, species-wide hive mind, but are instead divided into tribal subgroupings (each with their own Hive Mind), each with their own Breach through which to invade. As the plot progresses, via the mindlink established by Dr. Newton Geiszler in the first film, we learn that only four of these tribes, or "Clans", are prosecuting the invasion of Earth, each with their own special moniker (the prideful Emerald Kestrels, the bloodthirsty Mist Leopards, and so forth). With their incredible new technology, the Kaiju Masters overrun much of the Asiatic Combine from the Pacific, and the German Commonwealth via the Baltic Breach.
Will the five hyperpowers and their JaegerWarriors be able to overcome their mutual loathing and join together to repel the Invaders, or will Terra fall before the Invasion? Find out, in Pacific Rim 2: Clan Invasion!
You sir, win a cookie.
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The Soundtrack does make for good background music while playing MegaMek :D
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Bad-ass commanders, GLaDOS's voice as the AI (and my favorite throw away line "Quick! Release the neurotoxin!")
Next time I go see it I must listen for this.
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Obsessed with this soundtrack...Can't. Stop. Hitting. Replay.
I know. And thankfully, it does not have that ending rap song that was my only complaint about the movie really.
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Next time I go see it I must listen for this.
It is from one of the techs when Mako is "chasing the rabbit" and has the plasma caster pointed at the control room. Unfortunately, it isn't Ellen McLain that says it.
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Darn, because I would have busted a gut laughing.
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It is from one of the techs when Mako is "chasing the rabbit" and has the plasma caster pointed at the control room. Unfortunately, it isn't Ellen McLain that says it.
Still a nice reference.
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Just watched it.
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS FUN!!
Ahem. Can anyone do monsters better than Del Toro?
Idris Elba rocked. No surprise there. Burn Goreman was fun. (Been seeing him in a lot of stuff since Torchwood.)
And Perelman...dude is hilarious.
Have to ask though: how many of you stayed through the initial end credits? As soon as they hit the screen the entire theater emptied. (And so everyone missed it.)
Okay this isn't about the movie...but does anyone else think you should have to turn in your cellphone when you enterthe ttheater? Maybe like a coat room deal? The guy sitting next to me was talking into his phone like every five minutes. The only thing keeping me from having a melt down was the fact that he wasnt speaking in English so I could kinda tune him out.
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You can always have the staff at the theater shut them up or down, as it were.
And yeah, I always stay through to the end of the credits. Blame The Matrix more than anything else. (They had a website password at the very end. This was way before "viral" was something positive...)
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I want it on Blu-ray as soon as it hits a shelf...I wonder if there is enough material for a sequel
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Just saw it and it rocked! }:)
I wouldn't mind a prequal at all or even a sequel where the new Jaegers start to join up with certain governments and fight each other, Jaeger vs Jaeger.
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I've seen it twice now, including once at the IMAX.
Soooo worth it.
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Just saw it and it rocked! }:)
I wouldn't mind a prequal at all or even a sequel where the new Jaegers start to join up with certain governments and fight each other, Jaeger vs Jaeger.
Well, there is a graphic novel, Pacific Rim: Tales From Year Zero. Haven't read it yet, but it sounds promising.
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I've read it, it's not bad.
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Does 'Pan Periphery Defense Command' come off as too reaching?
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Not if the kaiju it faces are the AD&D Giant Space Hamsters.
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The other day, at the behest of my fiance, I saw the 3D version of this movie. Despite my general aversion to the 3D gimmick, it was fairly well done. I thought the 3D effects were not too distracting and generally well used and good additions. Especially in the very beginning, when the star field turned into the plankton in the ocean. The 3D really made that scene much more convincing.
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The other day, at the behest of my fiance, I saw the 3D version of this movie. Despite my general aversion to the 3D gimmick, it was fairly well done. I thought the 3D effects were not too distracting and generally well used and good additions. Especially in the very beginning, when the star field turned into the plankton in the ocean. The 3D really made that scene much more convincing.
that my feeling too. I seen a few review that complain that the water droplet on the 3 d that stay on the lens was distracting for them.. but when I saw it in theater I never notice that and it never register. I guess different people see thing different. for the most part moves online reviewer I look at thought it was a good movie with the exception of one so far. In his case I think he just had a burr up his saddle anyway and wasn't really looking at the film to enjoy it.
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One more thing to give Pacific Rim credit for:
No shaky-cam! O0
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That was one of the things I can't understand reading some of then less then stellar reviews, saying between the rain and the darkness you couldn't follow the action. WTH? I had no problem following the action, Transformers I couldn't track most of the action and it was done mostly in broad day light cause too much was going on at once.
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The Jäger bay in Hong Kong was awesome, would love to see more of that and at its peak.
I was laughing when they thought a wall would keep out the kijau monsters, just climb it or go around it.
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The Jäger bay in Hong Kong was awesome, would love to see more of that and at its peak.
I was laughing when they thought a wall would keep out the kaiju monsters, just climb it or go around it.
Much less breach the damned thing, like Mutavore did in Sydney.
EDIT: Also, a random and kind of crack-y idea that occurred to me, mostly because they're both things I like: a crossover or fusion between Pacific Rim and the anime Girls und Panzer. After all, the Nishizumi sisters would be what, in their late twenties by the time of the movie's main plot-line? I just have this image of Miho and Maho being a Ranger-pair whose fused tactical instincts (as demonstrated by the 74th National Panzerfahren Tournament) allow them to utterly pulverise any kaiju that comes into their AO.... :D
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While I realize they are out of the scale . . . I am trying to decide if we would consider them lumbering assault or perhaps mediums. Gipsy reminded me of a Centurion a bit with the head, and the movement/mobility on Striker felt Phoenix Hawk-y.
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While I realize they are out of the scale . . . I am trying to decide if we would consider them lumbering assault or perhaps mediums. Gipsy reminded me of a Centurion a bit with the head, and the movement/mobility on Striker felt Phoenix Hawk-y.
Cherno Alpha is clearly an Awesome. ;D
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The Jäger bay in Hong Kong was awesome, would love to see more of that and at its peak.
I was laughing when they thought a wall would keep out the kijau monsters, just climb it or go around it.
Much less breach the damned thing, like Mutavore did in Sydney.
In the Sydney scene, it looks like weapons or turrets are installed on top of the wall, which makes the anti-kaiju wall closer to Festung Atlantik than just a wall. Note that the comparison is NOT encouraging as to its capability to stop invaders from the sea...
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What was the wall called again? The Wall of Peace or some such nonsense?
It makes sense from a political standpoint imo to switch to an all encompassing wall of defense vs giant metal machines that can level a city block with one punch. Supposedly, no collateral damage that the politicians probably had to constantly hear about.... #P And, of course this doesn't even take into the actual cost of said Jaegers. Nuclear reactors, mind melding computer equipment and large experimental weapon systems all must take a good chunk out of the national budget that the politico's probably saw as throwing money away once the Jaegers started going down faster than they had hoped.
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Wall of Life.
And the Russian helmets reminded me so much of StarCraft's Ghosts I squeed.
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What was the wall called again? The Wall of Peace or some such nonsense?
It makes sense from a political standpoint imo to switch to an all encompassing wall of defense vs giant metal machines that can level a city block with one punch. Supposedly, no collateral damage that the politicians probably had to constantly hear about.... #P And, of course this doesn't even take into the actual cost of said Jaegers. Nuclear reactors, mind melding computer equipment and large experimental weapon systems all must take a good chunk out of the national budget that the politico's probably saw as throwing money away once the Jaegers started going down faster than they had hoped.
Oh, the realist in me understands the politicians perfectly. Jaegers, like superheroes, tend to cause a huge amount of damage while preventing even more. Look how many buildings were destroyed in each fight. Which is why the SOP was for the Jaegers to intercept the Kaiju in the ocean before they made it to the cities. So while the Kaiju like to destroy cities, and Jaegers are there to stop them, the politicians are being inundated with "hey, your stupid robot smashed my muti-gazillion skyscraper! Again! I just inished rebuilding it from last time! Tell them to knock it off!" Their email boxes must be so full! So yeah, I can understand how "lets make a defense that doesn't destroy stuff" came around. [/spoiler] And if the Kaiju were what they thought they were -- dumb animals --it may have. But they weren't; they were weaponized monsters, created specifically to clear out the pests, us. [/spoiler]
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Wall of Life.
And the Russian helmets reminded me so much of StarCraft's Ghosts I squeed.
I was reminded of the heads of Scopedogs from VOTOMS, actually.
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Finally got to see it, today. Also, I am going to be extremely disappointed in all of you, if I'm the first person to think of this:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/edc2633f947a1652868ff9228d2d9483/tumblr_mqf4hiXmsu1s5p7iro1_500.jpg)
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Finally got to see it, today. Also, I am going to be extremely disappointed in all of you, if I'm the first person to think of this:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/edc2633f947a1652868ff9228d2d9483/tumblr_mqf4hiXmsu1s5p7iro1_500.jpg)
hmm upgrade
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Finally got to see it, today. Also, I am going to be extremely disappointed in all of you, if I'm the first person to think of this:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/edc2633f947a1652868ff9228d2d9483/tumblr_mqf4hiXmsu1s5p7iro1_500.jpg)
Sorry...don't get it...
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Sorry...don't get it...
Hand in your nerd card! >:(
Then go watch MST3k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqeU1gcDbAU&list=PLB2F2BA21F229DE59). One of the robots is named Gypsy.
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I'm -really- hoping for a prequel movie, showing the jaegers in their heyday.
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That was one of the things I can't understand reading some of then less then stellar reviews, saying between the rain and the darkness you couldn't follow the action. WTH? I had no problem following the action, Transformers I couldn't track most of the action and it was done mostly in broad day light cause too much was going on at once.
Yeah, I have no idea what those folks are talking about. As opposed to (for example) Bay's idea to shoot every robot scuffle from three feet away, Pacific Rim's battles were big, wide-field-of-view affairs.
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I'm -really- hoping for a prequel movie, showing the jaegers in their heyday.
That would be really awesome.
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I actually put this up on the Web back on Tuesday, but finally have my own review ready.... http://paulsvalleydailydemocrat.com/moviereviews/x1724760090/Pacific-Rim-a-new-standard-of-monster-and-bot-excellence
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While Pacific Rim didn't do that great in the US I believe the rest of the global market picked it up a lot.
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I think it has done OK, but part of the problem is 'Every blockbuster this summer is a flop!' seems to be the chant. I mean I heard a summary of its opening weekend as 'gaining no traction, this looks like the 4th flop so far.' Besides, if the critics talk down a movie I am interested in, it generally means I will like it.
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Have to agree with you on that, if the elitist, critics pooh pooh something I usually like it. a lot.
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Between domestic and an early international release, I believe it's already made back its production money. So, yeah, not a flop.
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I think it has done OK, but part of the problem is 'Every blockbuster this summer is a flop!' seems to be the chant. I mean I heard a summary of its opening weekend as 'gaining no traction, this looks like the 4th flop so far.' Besides, if the critics talk down a movie I am interested in, it generally means I will like it.
That is why when reading reviews from critics is best to try read between lines or just ignore them. This way you know are you going to like it yourself. it. After all those reviews are always based on critics' opinions that might not match your personal opinion.
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Whether a critic did or did not like something is far less important to me than why. That's why I still watch Maltin's reviews even though he gives everything 2.5 stars. I frequently disagree with his conclusions but it's the analysis that let's me know if I'm likely to like the movie.
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Film criticism used to be an elitist game, but Ebert and the internet have really democratized it. Like Netzilla said, it's more important to understand why a critic feels the way they do than to agree with them, but failing that just find someone that you do agree with. For what it's worth, critical reaction to Pacific Rim was generally favorable. It's important to differentiate between discussion of box office returns and discussion of a film's quality.
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Damn, I wanted to go see it again today, but seems the theaters have all pulled it to just two showings a day now. And neither at a convenient time.
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Film criticism used to be an elitist game, but Ebert and the internet have really democratized it. Like Netzilla said, it's more important to understand why a critic feels the way they do than to agree with them, but failing that just find someone that you do agree with. For what it's worth, critical reaction to Pacific Rim was generally favorable. It's important to differentiate between discussion of box office returns and discussion of a film's quality.
One thing I like the late Ebert.. is while he may not like a film he made certain you understood his reasoning and let you draw your on conclusion from that if the movie is the sort you as a fan would enjoy.
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One thing I like the late Ebert.. is while he may not like a film he made certain you understood his reasoning and let you draw your on conclusion from that if the movie is the sort you as a fan would enjoy.
Yeah, I am really going to miss his reviews. :'(
He was one of the very few film critics I actually respect. Unlike most of the others he wasn't an elitist snob. He genuinely loved movies and wanted to cultivate that in others.
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Saw it today and loved it; though it reminded me more like Evangelion than Battletech- minus the religious elements, the characters whom all have parent issues, and AT Fields.
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And now Jaeger bombs will now be defined as this in my mind. Forever. (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/2013-07-22.jpg)
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You may call me "Jumpin' Jim Tong" ;)
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Saw the movie twice, bought the graphic novel, soundtrack, and just got the art book. Then I saw this:
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l77/ONE_HELLCAT/f4202049-f9ab-4178-bbb2-5bc0c1e4eaad_zps70077651.jpg)
And it reminded me of this:
(http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/7/71/YaoLien.jpg)
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Looks LAM-ish to me. Or should I say "Remoinds moi orv ar LARM" - about as authentic an Aussie accent as the movie featured ;)
Saw it on the weekend, enjoyed it. Liked Cherno Alpha and its crew best, albeit only used in snippets. When everyone else was fleeing the charging weapon in the hanger, they just casually strolled away.
Soundtrack - got that. Really reminds me of the original Iron Man soundtrack, not suprisingly (same composer). Djawadi seems to be one of the few graduates of the Zimmermatic who's prepared to different. Unlike his old master, he didn't bother using the mixing deck to produce the signature "foghorn" tone - he went out & hired more basses & bass trombones. And no woodwinds (except for a small flute solo) helped make it suitably "heavy", IMO.
Listen to the Iron Man track "Driving with the top down" and then the theme "Pacific Rim". The leit-motifs are different, but the framing seems very similar. But it works for both.