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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #210 on: 21 February 2016, 12:13:16 »
OK, thanks.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #211 on: 22 February 2016, 12:42:03 »
**bump**

Unit: Behemoth II Heavy Tank (Standard)
Link: http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6447/behemoth-ii-heavy-tank-standard

Sources:
  TRO3145 Capellan Confederation p.24-25 (unit info)
  Alpha Strike Companion p.107 (weapon table), 137 (role), 139 (conversion)

Issue: the Alpha-Strike card for the Behemoth II  appears to be missing an "IF" value per the conversion information in the ASC.
. [8x Thunderbolt_5 = 2.34/4.0/4.0 damage; IF# = Long Range damage, or 4.0]

Suggested changes:
. Add "IF4" to the listed specials
. Adjust "TUR" special to include "IF4"
. Adjust "PV" to 50
. . PV calculations: 26 OFV + 24.25 DFV + 0 GFB
. Adjust Role to "Missile Boat" (over 50% of the damage at Long Range is dealt by the missile systems)
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #212 on: 22 February 2016, 12:56:14 »
Thanks, Behemoth II corrected.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #213 on: 22 February 2016, 13:00:37 »
The Alpha Strike stats for the Mad Cat Mk IV family are off. As per Alpha Strike Companion pg 98, the Structure Value for a 75 ton Clan 'Mech with an XXL engine should be three; the MUL Alpha Strike Card gives it as two

Thanks. Fixed.  PVs also went up 1 due to Structure increase.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #214 on: 22 February 2016, 14:53:41 »
Some re-engineered laser errata
The Ebony MEB-13 should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6943/ebony-meb-13
The Spider SDR-10K should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6934/spider-sdr-10k
The Emperor EMP-8L should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6851/emperor-emp-8l
The Sagittaire SGT -14D should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6835/sagittaire-sgt-14d
The Sagittari SGT-4R should have the REL special ability
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6817/sagittarii-sgt-4r

The Night Stalker NSR-K7 should lose the REL ability  because according to the conversion rules from AS companion you have to cause 1 unit of damage in the medium range bracket (may be we need to errata it to short range or small re-engineered lasers will never give the REL ability)
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6720/night-stalker-nsr-k7

REL added/removed as listed above.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #215 on: 01 March 2016, 08:40:50 »
Pendragon PDG-1X
Pendragon PDG-1R
Pendragon PDG-2R

All units should have the CASEII ability, not CASE.

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4799/pendragon-pdg-1r

NCKestrel: corrected, thanks.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #216 on: 05 March 2016, 05:40:09 »
Cost is still shown as something you can Filter by, but no longer shows up in the columns once sorting is complete.  Is this a recent removal, or am I using the wrong browser?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #217 on: 05 March 2016, 09:20:35 »
You're not scrolling far enough to get past the ones with no cost.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #218 on: 05 March 2016, 14:12:51 »
The Jihad era data is listed as Complete, but its missing two 'Mechs, both of which can be found in the Total Chaos book.

AWS-10KM Awesome (Cameron)
AS7-D-H Atlas II (Devlin)

Also, will the MUL be reconfigured so the eras match eras as listed in IO?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #219 on: 05 March 2016, 19:16:43 »
You're not scrolling far enough to get past the ones with no cost.

No, some of the lists I get back (eg. Only Mechs that cost between 1,000,000 to 3,500,00 C-Bills, only from inner sphere, only age of war, Star League, and Early Succession Wars) return a list of around 20 or so, and there's no column for price shown.  And I know there used to be, 'cause I've used the MUL before to prove to my players that a certain 'Mech costs X not Y to resolve arguments.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #220 on: 05 March 2016, 20:52:52 »
The Jihad era data is listed as Complete, but its missing two 'Mechs, both of which can be found in the Total Chaos book.

AWS-10KM Awesome (Cameron)
AS7-D-H Atlas II (Devlin)
Added. The Jihad may be marked as complete for faction data but this can happen when a product adds new units if we don't get them put in right away. Eridani Epsilon are also added. Alpha Strike stats will be entered this weekend.

Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #221 on: 11 March 2016, 18:14:06 »
All of the Zeus-X designs from TR3145LC should be renamed "Zeus X" to match the Record Sheets and fluff from said product.

The 9WD and 9WD (Stacy) should remain "Zeus-X" as that's how their RS and writeups in Wolf and Blake are done.

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« Reply #222 on: 11 March 2016, 18:22:10 »
If we make that change, the 9WD models will no longer show as a variant of the other ones. The MUL will treat it as a completely separate base unit. It will probably be more appropriate to change them all to Zeus X.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #223 on: 11 March 2016, 18:39:26 »
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6631/zeus-x-zeu-x

The DC didn't even start working on prototype Reactive armor until 3058. The write up in TR3145LC states "whose limited production during the Civil War merely served propaganda." The date should be bumped up to 3062+

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #225 on: 15 March 2016, 08:45:32 »
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7346/hunchback-hbk-7s

Card is not generating.

We haven't created/entered AS stats for it yet.

EDIT: Now we have.
« Last Edit: 15 March 2016, 08:53:21 by nckestrel »
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #226 on: 15 March 2016, 09:21:32 »
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6631/zeus-x-zeu-x

The DC didn't even start working on prototype Reactive armor until 3058. The write up in TR3145LC states "whose limited production during the Civil War merely served propaganda." The date should be bumped up to 3062+

Time for that yearly debate....OK, it's off to discussion by the MUL team.  Hopefully we'll have an answer sometime.  (Last year we agreed that 3054 was wrong, but couldn't settle on 3059 versus 3063).
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #228 on: 15 March 2016, 14:47:05 »
Whenever you try to customize an existing card, even just to change the picture, the type and the skill level go blank and have to be re-filled in.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #230 on: 16 March 2016, 11:09:38 »
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4994/scorpion-scp-1n-rubinsky

Need AS card

If there is no Record Sheet listed, then an AS card might not be possible.  Please do not list units that don't have an RS listed, thanks.
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« Reply #231 on: 16 March 2016, 14:06:35 »
If there is no Record Sheet listed, then an AS card might not be possible.  Please do not list units that don't have an RS listed, thanks.

If there is no record sheet, then how does it have a BV listed? If there really isn't one, please pass that along up the chain to someone who can make one, rather than just asking me to stop asking about it.

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5810/warhammer-whm-6k-yorinaga

Needs AS card
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #232 on: 16 March 2016, 14:15:55 »
If there really isn't one, please pass that along up the chain to someone who can make one, rather than just asking me to stop asking about it.

We are striving to fill in all units, eventually.  However, you are being told how the process works, by one of the major people behind the process.  Please follow the instructions.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #233 on: 16 March 2016, 14:21:46 »
I'm just trying to save you the work of filling out posts that won't change anything.  If it doesn't have an RS, there's no point in filling out post that says there is no AS card.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #234 on: 16 March 2016, 14:43:12 »
Sorry if I sound snarky, but I don't have access to all the record sheets. So there is no way for me to know if one unit doesn't have one.

I'm just seeing a hole and letting you know it needs plugging, if that's not possible at this time, that's fine.
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« Reply #235 on: 16 March 2016, 15:18:46 »
The "TRO/RS" category tells you where the record sheet can be found.  If it is listed as "None", then no record sheet exists.

Here is a convenient list of all units on the MUL that currently have "None" as their record sheet source to reference when you come across something like this again.
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« Reply #236 on: 16 March 2016, 15:32:35 »
I see a lot of Omnimech base models, so those would obviously not have cards.

Yet, mysteriously, some of those other units do have cards....

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4556/mackie-msk-7a

So, what gives? How does that work for some units but not others?  ???
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« Reply #237 on: 16 March 2016, 15:38:17 »
I see a lot of Omnimech base models, so those would obviously not have cards.

Yet, mysteriously, some of those other units do have cards....

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4556/mackie-msk-7a

So, what gives? How does that work for some units but not others?  ???

You got a bonus.  You're welcome.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #238 on: 16 March 2016, 17:31:29 »
You got a bonus.  You're welcome.

It was incorrectly tagged as no record sheet. That is fixed now.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #239 on: 16 March 2016, 20:14:28 »
I see a lot of Omnimech base models, so those would obviously not have cards.

Yet, mysteriously, some of those other units do have cards....

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/4556/mackie-msk-7a

So, what gives? How does that work for some units but not others?  ???
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