Author Topic: Re: DROP POD SEQUENCE INITIATED…THREE, TWO, ONE! (The announcements, finally) (Read 51785 times)

Kojak · « **Reply #240 on:** 24 July 2015, 21:41:01 »

Question about IO: which ruleset is designed to be used in conjunction with the planetary maps from the Turning Points PDFs?

Alexander Knight · « **Reply #241 on:** 24 July 2015, 21:41:30 »

Quote from: Kojak on 24 July 2015, 21:41:01

Question about IO: which ruleset is designed to be used in conjunction with the planetary maps from the Turning Points PDFs?

ACS

BirdofPrey · « **Reply #242 on:** 24 July 2015, 21:42:38 »

That loophole they thought they had was to use the original art.
This us new art.

ColBosch · « **Reply #243 on:** 24 July 2015, 21:47:57 »

Quote from: Ice_Trey on 24 July 2015, 21:35:11

I know that there are some aesthetic changes being done to the old unseen...

Stop right there. These are not the Unseen, nor just the Unseen with the "legally-mandated" six changes. These are new designs that share some thematic elements or general outlines with the old art. These have been deliberately designed to not only evoke the feel of the Unseen without stepping on anyone else's toes, but to appeal to a modern audience.

Hammer · « **Reply #244 on:** 24 July 2015, 21:52:19 »

Quote from: ColBosch on 24 July 2015, 21:47:57

Stop right there. These are not the Unseen, nor just the Unseen with the "legally-mandated" six changes. These are new designs that share some thematic elements or general outlines with the old art. These have been deliberately designed to not only evoke the feel of the Unseen without stepping on anyone else's toes, but to appeal to a modern audience.

Hear Hear!

I've played going back to BattleDroids and if this Warhammer is any indication of the quality of the new art I might forget what the originals look like.

Lanothe · « **Reply #245 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:06:43 »

While new to the tabletop game, my first experience with Battletech was sniping the heads off of Battlemasters piloting a Warhammer in the 1989 Mechwarrior PC game.

I loved that thing so much, I refused to "upgrade" my pilot to a heavier 'mech based on my own stubborn aesthetic preference.

When I decided to get into the tabletop game, the first thing I wanted was a Warhammer miniature. But, being completely ignorant of the Unseen issues, I was confused by what I was seeing being touted as a Warhammer.

My confusion turned to disappointment and sadness as the internet soon revealed all the details and history of the unseen.

Would have been happy with an announcement about the production of any new plastic mini's, but this, this is $&!?$&@ amazing!

Curious about the Campaign Companion as well.

SCC · « **Reply #246 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:07:17 »

Quote from: ColBosch on 24 July 2015, 21:18:21

Plus, if you buy the Beta now, you'll get the final PDF for no extra charge, while if you wait the PDF will be $25. The hardcopy will likely be in the $60 range, as it is nearly 400 pages long.

Source please

Diplominator · « **Reply #247 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:09:57 »

Quote from: SCC on 24 July 2015, 22:07:17

Source please

Quote from: The Link At The Beginning Of The Thread

In order to ensure maximum exposure, Catalyst Game Labs is releasing the PDF at $10 for a limited time. Once a street date for the book is determined (i.e., it’s in our warehouse), Catalyst Game Labs will release the final version of the PDF, with the price returning to the standard $25. Anyone who previously purchased the PDF at $10 will automatically receive a free upgrade to the final PDF.

Hellraiser · « **Reply #248 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:16:07 »

I think I just had a fangasm in my pants. All I can say is O-M-G. So Happy Right Now [drool] :'( [drool] :'( :-* :-*

Atlas3060 · « **Reply #249 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:17:13 »

Basically they're running a similar deal to AToW's release.
Put out the beta for cheap, have people run through it, make their input known, and then when it goes to full release the PDF purchasers get their update to a fully released product.

Overall a decent deal when you think about it.

Adrian Gideon · « **Reply #250 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:27:52 »

WALL O TEXT DUMP

Quote from: kurtl000 on 24 July 2015, 13:09:43

Wait I have a question will there be a pdf available for the novels including the one at the printers right now? I'm assuming yes?

Don't know. I'll find out. Kindle and Nook yes.

Quote from: BirdofPrey on 24 July 2015, 13:36:33

In that case, should these ones be called, Clan Invasion Combat Manuals?

No. These will cover a slightly broader period of time, late 3rd SW to early CI. We're still looking at ways to expand that, but these won't simply be the "Clan Invasion" volumes.

Quote from: Empyrus on 24 July 2015, 13:48:07

Everything's better with Marauders?

Everything.

Quote from: Nerroth on 24 July 2015, 13:52:35

Although it would be interesting if there was a twist in the tale

You can bet on it.

Quote from: wolfspider on 24 July 2015, 14:16:40

Ray you have made me a very Happy Camper

We're very glad!

Quote from: StoneRhino on 24 July 2015, 14:52:40

Seriously, this is more personal then just shiny new mechs on the table. This game really did help in the worst times that I have had. Seeing this big piece of the game returning and things progressing is really huge to me.

Glad you feel that way, and that you took my response the right way—went back and read it and the beginning could have been misconstrued but I think "Never say never, say not yet" summed it up well enough.

Quote from: StoneRhino on 24 July 2015, 14:55:25

Basically, how long with the IO Beta PDF be on sale for?

Until the final IO goes on sale, approximately 2 months from now (NOT street date, but print/PDF date)

Quote from: monbvol on 24 July 2015, 15:22:26

I'll assume it is okay to start giving feedback when something more than <TBD> is in the IO Beta thread.

Please do. I apologize for the <TBD>, I'll edit that as soon as I'm able.

Quote from: RAW on 24 July 2015, 15:26:01

Also is the final print version of IO going to have the same cover as the few print beta's you guys are selling at Gen Con ??

Hmmm. Same front cover, minus the giant "BETA" on it. Same back. The spine is plain and says "BETA," the final will have the core book spine artwork.

Quote from: Giovanni Blasini on 24 July 2015, 15:56:14

Still doesn't keep me from being bummed out.

Don't look at this as...subtractive. No one is losing anything. You have your minis, and can use them in the same way you always could. You've got your old books, novels, etc. What's happening here is a gain. New artwork to be used moving forward, instead of empty space and a shrug.

Quote from: Wildfire on 24 July 2015, 16:48:52

but on the other hand very unhappy to see the force creation rules which were beta tested back in 2012 have been moved to yet another book

I'm sorry about that, and I know it doesn't salve the wound, but the decision was made and announced publicly around a year ago to move those rules to the Campaign Companion. So I know it's news to you, but it's not something we just now sprang on everyone.

Quote from: Neko_Bijin on 24 July 2015, 18:19:04

You know my solution: make the miniatures edible.

Gummi 'Mechs.

RAW · « **Reply #251 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:33:48 »

If in fact there is a "AS" boxset in the works, will it possibly have a 3050 Invasion map of the inner sphere?

kurtl000 · « **Reply #252 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:34:44 »

Thank you for answering my question Adrian gideon! Can't wait for the first novel!

Reldn · « **Reply #253 on:** 24 July 2015, 22:57:29 »

Let's see here... Classic 'Mechs, Combat Manuals, Novels, ilClan, and the possibility that the Alpha Strike box is actually real?! I am extremely giddy and excited right now. :D

SCC · « **Reply #254 on:** 24 July 2015, 23:12:09 »

Can we post errata for the IO Beta yet

ColBosch · « **Reply #255 on:** 24 July 2015, 23:16:39 »

Quote from: SCC on 24 July 2015, 23:12:09

Can we post errata for the IO Beta yet

Yes, the thread is open and people have already been posting to it.

Ice_Trey · « **Reply #256 on:** 24 July 2015, 23:30:10 »

Quote from: ColBosch on 24 July 2015, 21:47:57

Stop right there. These are not the Unseen, nor just the Unseen with the "legally-mandated" six changes. These are new designs that share some thematic elements or general outlines with the old art. These have been deliberately designed to not only evoke the feel of the Unseen without stepping on anyone else's toes, but to appeal to a modern audience.

I really REALLY hope that all parties see it as such. I can't deal with heartbreak like 2009 again, but it's not like I didn't see it coming then. I just hope my fears are completely unfounded now.

GreekFire · « **Reply #257 on:** 24 July 2015, 23:40:07 »

I know I'm getting into this late, but...wow. This "major announcement" was beyond anything I had hoped to hear. I was expecting some news about Interstellar Ops or maybe a blurb about the ilClan, but this...man. I can't believe it. There's not a single thing on that announcement list that I'm not pumped about.

Interstellar Ops gearing up to come out. A re-imagining of the classics done with 3D renders, giving us high-quality art no matter the angle. Novels - and the most surprising part, a return of Stackpole. Combat Manuals, which look like they'll be a superb product line worthy of replacing the older full-bodied factional Field Manuals. And an Alpha Strike box set, which - with the inclusion of the new classic redesigns AND clan 'Mech plastics - is guaranteed to be a huge seller amongst older BattleTech fans (with the side effect of exposing them to Alpha Strike, even if they just wanted the minis) and newer ones. And the ilClan, on the upcoming releases list at last.

I can solidly say that I've never been so excited to be a BattleTech fan. To the crew of CGL: congratulations. This must be an exciting and stressful time for you all, but an immensely rewarding one as well. I feel like you're taking the franchise in an amazing direction, one where BattleTech is invigorated and refreshed without having its heart and core taken from it.

manticore72 · « **Reply #258 on:** 25 July 2015, 00:05:43 »

Could there be a new TRO:3025 ("Revised"?) with the new art in the future? I'd buy one for sure.

BirdofPrey · « **Reply #259 on:** 25 July 2015, 00:35:33 »

Quote from: Adrian Gideon on 24 July 2015, 22:27:52

No. These will cover a slightly broader period of time, late 3rd SW to early CI. We're still looking at ways to expand that, but these won't simply be the "Clan Invasion" volumes.

How do you plan on differentiating books when we start doing the same factions again just in earlier or later time periods?

On a side note, with new art for old mechs, are books such as TRO3039 going to get an update/reprint to insert the new art and is the new art going to be slotted in on the MUL and AS cards available there, or are we still going to be stuck with these crappy silhouettes.

Porkins · « **Reply #260 on:** 25 July 2015, 00:36:22 »

Classic designs reinvented. Novels. Final core book released. Dozens of very exciting products on the way.

I am at a loss for words.

Thank you to the Catalyst team for all of this. What a wonderful day 😀

Colt Ward · « **Reply #261 on:** 25 July 2015, 00:44:21 »

*checks IWM site for Warhammer 10th time* WHY CAN I NOT BUY IT YET! TAKE MY MONEY!

BirdofPrey · « **Reply #262 on:** 25 July 2015, 00:53:15 »

Quote from: Porkins on 25 July 2015, 00:36:22

Classic designs reinvented. Novels. Final core book released. Dozens of very exciting products on the way.

I'm pretty sure the Campaign Companion is also supposed to count as a core rulebook.

FedComGirl · « **Reply #263 on:** 25 July 2015, 01:07:14 »

Oooo Interstellar Operations. [drool] Must find money!

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the single critical slot Chemical/Double Strength Heat Sinks from Tales of the Black Widow Company made it into the book? I ask because even though they keep being mentioned I haven't seen them in any stats/record sheets and they didn't appear in the Pre-Beta. Is it a case of "Oops, we forgot that," or "Sorry, those are gone for good"?

I have mixed feelings about having to Retcon the Unseen. I'm not happy about them being Unseen. But their new art does look nice and is close enough I can pretend they're products of a different factory. So that's good. :) Forgive me if this has been answered already, but are they going to get a new TRO or are they just for future art and minis?

Thanks! Keep up the great work! O0 [cheers]

Acolyte · « **Reply #264 on:** 25 July 2015, 01:31:45 »

You...... MAGNIFICENT people! My brain is blown!

The one thing that kept all those MAD redesigns from looking like a Marauder was the shoulders being above the hips instead of at the same level and in front....

And then I see the artwork. Shoulders a touch higher and IN FRONT! I can totally live with this, especially if it's given anthing like the treatment that the OGM WAMMY got! O0

Brilliant move with the ~~Unseen~~ SEEN `Mechs. It`s going to be nice to have artwork of them in books again.

Brilliant move with the BETA release for IO. Shame about the force creation rules, but I can wait a little longer considering all the stuff you just brought out!

New Novels! Not much more to say about that. O0

So excited right now...

- Shane

Kojak · « **Reply #265 on:** 25 July 2015, 02:38:37 »

I just wanted to chime in to say that I am excited almost beyond words at the cornucopia of new BT that's coming our way. I haven't been this excited for upcoming products in a long time.

Ice_Trey · « **Reply #266 on:** 25 July 2015, 02:43:02 »

Quote from: manticore72 on 25 July 2015, 00:05:43

Could there be a new TRO:3025 ("Revised"?) with the new art in the future? I'd buy one for sure.

It would make an excellent tie-in with the first succession war product that was listed in the upcoming titles page.

Maybe called something like "TRO: Staples". Considering that the unseen were the core of Battletech and Battledroids since it's inception, I've always considered them the staples of the franchise, even pre-dating the AC/20. It's partly why without them involved in 3025 games, the whole era felt like there was a gap. Furthermore, the unseen were supposed to be the "Mass Produced" Battlemechs that every faction had. Bug mechs out the wazoo, Archers, Riflemen, Marauders and Warhammers, Even lesser-depicted ones like the Crusader and Thunderbolt.

I'd like to coin that phrase: Staples. If these mechs are truly able to make a comeback, they're going to quickly become staples in just about everybody's mech collections, whether they're succession wars players or on the cutting edge.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #267 on:** 25 July 2015, 02:45:55 »

With the Mauraduer and the Warhammer back, does that mean some of the other designs are back also. The Clan refits also?

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #268 on:** 25 July 2015, 02:49:54 »

The image looked like it had more of the reimagined unseen than the super awesome kick ass warhammer (it looks far superior to the Robotech thingie, of which I have two of the unseen minis).

At any rate.. with only a rear shot of the marauder... need a full frontal before I will be impressed. But for now... the Warhammer is da bomb. :Jumpy: :Jumpy: :Jumpy: {>{> {>{> {>{>

croaker · « **Reply #269 on:** 25 July 2015, 02:50:48 »

Question: What will be in TRO 3150 that wasn't in the various XTRO 3145's?