Author Topic: Star Trek Discovery (Read 164545 times)

Wrangler · « **Reply #840 on:** 04 February 2018, 08:45:12 »

Have you guys seen this?, some fans made a Quentin Tarantino Star Trek trailer. It's hilarious! ;D

Tymers Realm · « **Reply #841 on:** 04 February 2018, 10:06:34 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 04 February 2018, 08:45:12

Have you guys seen this?, some fans made a Quentin Tarantino Star Trek trailer. It's hilarious! ;D

Gawd that was funny.
Gotta give those at The Nerdist props for that.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #842 on:** 11 February 2018, 22:06:05 »

Has the season finale aired yet?

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #843 on:** 11 February 2018, 23:03:43 »

Quote from: Ruger on 03 February 2018, 20:31:33

The Destiny series is also supposed to reveal the "true" origin of the Borg, if I've understood correctly...even has a tie-in to one of the images in the Star Trek Ships of the Line calendars from a few years back...

Ruger

I very much enjoyed them even if the Borg have been used to death it was a decent trilogy

I am Belch II · « **Reply #844 on:** 12 February 2018, 04:52:37 »

The Season Ender has aired but I missed it. Will have to see it tonight.

Kentares · « **Reply #845 on:** 12 February 2018, 10:52:23 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 12 February 2018, 04:52:37

The Season Ender has aired but I missed it. Will have to see it tonight.

Its interesting but I expected it (though later in the show).

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #846 on:** 12 February 2018, 13:01:21 »

So, that wasn't the best episode of the series, but I enjoyed it overall. The war side of the plot finished up a bit too perfunctory, but this scope has consistently been about the character arcs over the plot at every point, and the character work this week remained very good.

I'll admit that last shot was a woah moment, and I how the writers have an idea of how they're going to move forward from here.

Not that such a plan is necessary, Michael Piller famously wrote the cliffhanger of Best of Both Worlds with no idea how the story was going to go, expecting out to be someone else's problem. And then he decided not to leave the show...

Wrangler · « **Reply #847 on:** 12 February 2018, 13:23:54 »

I miss when authors of books actually wrote stories for Star Trek's television. I don't get good vibes from way these shows come off.

Deep Space Nine and Voyager had more together from story arch feeling sort things. Each had hit or miss but ...

ColBosch · « **Reply #848 on:** 12 February 2018, 13:27:26 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 12 February 2018, 13:23:54

I miss when authors of books actually wrote stories for Star Trek's television. I don't get good vibes from way these shows come off.

Sadly, John "Mike" Ford is no longer with us.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #849 on:** 12 February 2018, 13:46:43 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 12 February 2018, 13:23:54

I miss when authors of books actually wrote stories for Star Trek's television. I don't get good vibes from way these shows come off.

Deep Space Nine and Voyager had more together from story arch feeling sort things. Each had hit or miss but ...

Kirsten Beyer, the main Voyager novelist is a staff writer on the show, has a solo script credit for one episode (the crystal planet one), and is the liaison between the show's writer's room and the tie-in novel writers

Ruger · « **Reply #850 on:** 12 February 2018, 20:02:10 »

If the picture of the guest cameo appearance I saw earlier today was actually at the end of the episode, I might actually have hope for the series...

I think I actually really liked what they did with it...

Ruger

roosterboy · « **Reply #851 on:** 13 February 2018, 00:05:01 »

That final cameo had me seriously rolling my eyes. I wish the writers didn't feel the need to do it, as I think it's a crutch they should be avoiding as much as possible. It looked nice, though.

As for the season as a whole... I didn't hate it, I didn't love it. But I will be back for season two.

Things I hope they do in season two:

- flesh out the rest of the bridge crew more
- let Burnham loosen up a little
- do NOT bring in Kirk or any of the rest of the classic crew (except, I guess, for the one we're obviously going to get)
- break the season into multiple, smaller arcs
- stay away from time travel
- do some more sciencey or exploratory type missions (are there any Trek races we know are first contacted during this period?)
- do not lose the essential Tillyness of Tilly now that she has gotten some recognition and (presumably) more responsibilities
- just make Saru the damn permanent captain already
- do not update us on L'Rell and Voq/Tyler
- in fact, just avoid Klingons altogether for at least a full season
- no more Mirror Universe episodes

I'm sure I'll think of more things later, but that'll do.

And, oh yeah... ****** Clint Howard! Now, that is someone I'm always glad to see no matter what show it is. And what is this, his third or fourth Trek series to appear in? Nice.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #852 on:** 13 February 2018, 03:09:53 »

Based on statements by the producers...

Quote from: roosterboy on 13 February 2018, 00:05:01

- flesh out the rest of the bridge crew more

Seems they want to do this. They're definitely giving the actors playing the bridge crew a fair bit of spotlight on After Trek

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- do NOT bring in Kirk or any of the rest of the classic crew (except, I guess, for the one we're obviously going to get)

They are very non-committal on what's going to happen with that last shot (presumably because they're still working on the scripts for series 2), but Kirk is in the advanced officer's school right now, if I recall the canon timeline correctly. If he shows up at all I assume it'll be a cute cameo with him and Tilly

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- do not update us on L'Rell and Voq/Tyler

They've said they're bringing Tyler back at least, but they don't envision he'll be 100% happy with his choice. So it sounds like they have an interesting idea for his arc at least

And on a personal note

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- just make Saru the damn permanent captain already

Co-signed. I have an image in my mind that they keep getting waylaid and never make it to Vulcan, or we get a rotating chair of captains who frequently get killed so Saru winds up in charge every week

I am Belch II · « **Reply #853 on:** 13 February 2018, 05:00:29 »

Why did they butcher the USS Enterprise. They could of done just fine and not have that ship shown, a different Constitution class would of been just fine.

Some of the Icons in Sci-fi the Falcon from Star Wars and now the Enterprise.

BirdofPrey · « **Reply #854 on:** 13 February 2018, 07:01:55 »

I wouldn't call the Enterprise butchered. There's a couple cosmetic changes to account for the fact that the original model was so low detail which doesn't fit with today's special effects in general much less the aesthetic of other starfleet ships in this series, but it is still mostly the same. Not like the travesty that is the Klingons. And as much as I don't really want to start the next season ganging up with Pike and his crew, that's a bit of fanservice a lot of people have been clamoring for.

My only hope is that this detour keeps Saru in the captain's chair. I was immediately unhappy when they said they were going to Vulcan to pick up a new captain.

Weirdo · « **Reply #855 on:** 13 February 2018, 09:26:22 »

That. THAT is how you update a classic. Keep the overall lines, keep the same feel, stay close enough that people familiar with the old recognize the new instantly. That. Is. Enterprise. The ship we all know and love, updated to modern FX standards. The only real change I saw was the use of angled pylons, that's fine. We know from TMP that refitting a Connie from straight to angled pylons is a thing, so I have no problem believing that they can go from angled to straight pylons before TOS starts. Did anybody catch if she had neck tubes?

I'm not sure if I should approve of the fact that the production team learned from the D7 fiasco, or if I should be murderously pissed that they had the ability to do things right all along and still chose to abuse the KDF the way they did.

Either way, someone needs to make a sturdy model of this new ship, and beat Abrams in the face with it until his ears cave in.

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #856 on:** 13 February 2018, 09:56:46 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWbq4jThUpA

Don't believe so. Where the neck meets the engineering hull there's a squared off section which would indicate space for a future refit of tubes.

Tymers Realm · « **Reply #857 on:** 13 February 2018, 10:12:28 »

Give Cryptic six months and I figure the DISCO-prise will be a added skin for their T6 lockbox Connie for STO.
Also looking at the clip there was also openings in the pylons and extensions off the nacelles. Also the end of the nacelles was very TMP-like.

Quote from: Weirdo on 13 February 2018, 09:26:22

Either way, someone needs to make a sturdy model of this new ship, and beat Abrams in the face with it until his ears cave in.

Full agreement there.
If the DISCO-prise would of been used for the KT films, I would of been a bit more forgiving of them.

Weirdo · « **Reply #858 on:** 13 February 2018, 11:04:16 »

Quote from: Tymers Realm on 13 February 2018, 10:12:28

If the DISCO-prise would of been used for the KT films, I would of been a bit more forgiving of them.

Same here. I can forgive quite a bit in the story category(let's face it, every incarnation of Star Trek has had it's share of stinkers - my wife and I are watching a loaned set of TAS, and some of that is already "Don't Watch Sober" bad), so long as you get the bloody ships right.

Kentares · « **Reply #859 on:** 13 February 2018, 12:53:54 »

Agree with you guys... at last something I like about this show without hesitation.... the look of Enterprise.

HOWEVER... I'm afraid they'll mangle even more the supposed prime timeline...

In After Trek did I ear wrong or they talked about planing to give an explanation in the show of why Spock never talked about his sister!?

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #860 on:** 13 February 2018, 13:04:42 »

Quote from: Kentares on 13 February 2018, 12:53:54

Agree with you guys... at last something I like about this show without hesitation.... the look of Enterprise.

HOWEVER... I'm afraid they'll mangle even more the supposed prime timeline...

In After Trek did I ear wrong or they talked about planing to give an explanation in the show of why Spock never talked about his sister!?

He never told us about his half brother until said sibling showed up causing trouble. He never told his Captain his parents were coming aboard and who they were until they came aboard.

BirdofPrey · « **Reply #861 on:** 13 February 2018, 16:52:49 »

Yeah, honestly, never hearing about Burnham is not even on the list of annoyances considering how much Spock DOESN'T talk about his family even when it turns out to be important.

Ruger · « **Reply #862 on:** 13 February 2018, 19:57:41 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 13 February 2018, 11:04:16

my wife and I are watching a loaned set of TAS, and some of that is already "Don't Watch Sober" bad), so long as you get the bloody ships right.

OOoooo...have you gotten to the episode with the Kzinti and their pink ships yet?

:D ;D

Ruger

I am Belch II · « **Reply #863 on:** 13 February 2018, 20:32:47 »

The Big E just looked squished like its to short. It is a great update to the original series ship and I liked it more then the JJ Enterprise.

pensiveswetness · « **Reply #864 on:** 13 February 2018, 20:54:53 »

that DIS-ENT looks more like that fake ENT that made the rounds just prior to the JJ-ENT's appearance... but looks better in some ways. I know people are crying about it but since First Contact, the timeline's been AFU. The ONLY place appropriate for the 1960's ENT to appear in it's glory is the fan films, honestly.

Weirdo · « **Reply #865 on:** 13 February 2018, 21:18:05 »

Quote from: pensiveswetness on 13 February 2018, 20:54:53

that DIS-ENT looks more like that fake ENT that made the rounds just prior to the JJ-ENT's appearance... but looks better in some ways. I know people are crying about it but since First Contact, the timeline's been AFU. The ONLY place appropriate for the 1960's ENT to appear in it's glory is the fan films, honestly.

"Analysis, Spock?"

"I believe it to be an attempt at communication Captain, one so alien that the Universal Translator could never decipher it."

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #866 on:** 13 February 2018, 21:49:25 »

What fake ENT?

Giovanni Blasini · « **Reply #867 on:** 14 February 2018, 00:40:58 »

Quote from: HobbesHurlbut on 13 February 2018, 21:49:25

What fake ENT?

See attached. CGI image that was floating around before the 2009 movie.

Giovanni Blasini · « **Reply #868 on:** 14 February 2018, 00:43:33 »

Disco-prise is growing on me. Like a fungus. I'm not keen on the swept pylons, though. The rest doesn't seem awful.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #869 on:** 14 February 2018, 01:18:27 »

Quote from: Ruger on 13 February 2018, 19:57:41

OOoooo...have you gotten to the episode with the Kzinti and their pink ships yet?

:D ;D

Ruger

Fun fact, Filmation's art director was colour blind, and generally another member of staff would check and make sure that everything was coloured correctly before his work went to the animation studios to be copied, but between tight deadlines and the fact that people could compare TAS to TOS, a lot more of the times his work slipped through unchecked were noticeable in the finished work.