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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #870 on: 14 February 2018, 02:36:20 »
It would be very interesting if it turns out their trip through the mirror universe still lands them not back at the home they left.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #871 on: 14 February 2018, 08:50:34 »
See attached.  CGI image that was floating around before the 2009 movie.

A vast improvement over what we've got. The hideous Bussard cowls are still there, but they aren't the monstrosities that take the final product from pretty good all the way to Medusan in one go.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #872 on: 14 February 2018, 12:23:49 »
Why did they butcher the USS Enterprise.  They could of done just fine and not have that ship shown, a different Constitution class would of been just fine.

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« Reply #873 on: 15 February 2018, 09:50:45 »
Things I hope they do in season two:

- flesh out the rest of the bridge crew more - yes I could barely tell you a thing about them beyond Tilly, Burnham, Saru and Stamets

- let Burnham loosen up a little - yup

- do NOT bring in Kirk or any of the rest of the classic crew (except, I guess, for the one we're obviously going to get) - looks like it's when Pike was I command so before Kirk (around unaired pilot time)

- break the season into multiple, smaller arcs - agreed

- stay away from time travel - Trek can't avoid that

- do some more sciencey or exploratory type missions (are there any Trek races we know are first contacted during this period?) - agreed and not sure

- do not lose the essential Tillyness of Tilly now that she has gotten some recognition and (presumably) more responsibilities - agreed


- just make Saru the damn permanent captain already - YES!

- do not update us on L'Rell and Voq/Tyler - maybe after a break

- in fact, just avoid Klingons altogether for at least a full season - can't see it

- no more Mirror Universe episodes - I think we'll see the emperor again


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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #874 on: 15 February 2018, 13:21:23 »

Looks like it's when Pike was I command so before Kirk (around unaired pilot time)

The battle of the binary stars was 2 years after The Cage. IIRC Pike's accident is a year or two after the DISCO finale
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #875 on: 15 February 2018, 13:34:26 »
I wonder if this could be method of launching a spin off of Star Trek with Enterprise's Captain Pike in command?  Only problem is that they need make sure they don't prematurely do stuff they haven't done or dont have yet in canon by the time Kirk takes command.  Heck Scotty not even a engineer on board yet.
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« Reply #876 on: 15 February 2018, 17:11:12 »
Isn’t this around the time that Kirk was on the Farragut? I know he’s not on Enterprise right now, but I was thinking they could encounter him on Farragut. Not that I want them to, mind you, just that they could.

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« Reply #877 on: 15 February 2018, 17:14:38 »
Kirk graduates from Officer Training School and is assigned to Farragut the same year as the last three episodes of DISCO series 1.
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« Reply #878 on: 16 February 2018, 00:36:30 »
Isn’t this around the time that Kirk was on the Farragut? I know he’s not on Enterprise right now, but I was thinking they could encounter him on Farragut. Not that I want them to, mind you, just that they could.
Doesn't it depend on if CBS is following the original canon?

How long was Kirk on Farragut before it was destroyed?  My impression he wasn't on her for very long.

I remember that he had developed rival in comic book graphic novel who was Farragut survivor.
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« Reply #879 on: 16 February 2018, 01:51:03 »
Not only are the odds of them referencing something from a comic book or novel pretty close to zero, I wouldn't be surprised if they explicitly weren't allowed to, for legal reasons.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #880 on: 16 February 2018, 07:54:30 »
Not only are the odds of them referencing something from a comic book or novel pretty close to zero, I wouldn't be surprised if they explicitly weren't allowed to, for legal reasons.
That's too bad.  I enjoyed Shatner's Star Trek: The Ashes of Eden.  I was wondering who owned the copy rights to it.
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« Reply #881 on: 16 February 2018, 08:07:52 »
I binged the whole series this past week on my days off. Good, not great. Like many others I do not like the look of the Klingons. I do not yet if I would watch another season, though. Especially if they have to use Captain Pike and the Enterprise as a crutch to get them through that season.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #882 on: 16 February 2018, 08:10:45 »
I would of been very happy if they Didn't show the Enterprise at all. Keep it a hidden. StarFleet has thousands of ships, why do they need to show that.
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« Reply #883 on: 16 February 2018, 11:39:17 »
politics. That's why they did that. To make people yap and want to watch more...

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« Reply #884 on: 16 February 2018, 12:09:20 »
politics. That's why they did that. To make people yap and want to watch more...

That’s not politics, that’s fan service.

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« Reply #885 on: 16 February 2018, 13:52:22 »
Was it fan service.....the ship look itself has caused many angry debates. I don't mind the updated look its just squished.
Its just such a icon to Star Trek you don't want to touch it sometimes.
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« Reply #886 on: 16 February 2018, 14:22:18 »
As per usual, the fans got what they wanted (they saw the Enterprise) but are unhappy it wasn't what they had imagined (the shitty, no detail model from the 60s)

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« Reply #887 on: 16 February 2018, 14:44:18 »
Was it fan service.....the ship look itself has caused many angry debates. I don't mind the updated look its just squished.
Its just such a icon to Star Trek you don't want to touch it sometimes.

Bear in mind most people who watched the show won't care about minor cosmetic differences and just got psyched by the appearance of the  Enterprise and the theme music playing over the credits. The blue lights, the different nacelle struts, none of that will matter
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« Reply #888 on: 16 February 2018, 16:38:55 »
That’s not politics, that’s fan service.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #889 on: 16 February 2018, 17:47:02 »
I'm 10 episodes in and will post up my complete thoughts after I finish it. For being in the middle of a war...it certainly doesn't feel like it. They've done a lot of talking and no showing. (So far all the ship-to-ship combat has been par for any regular non-war Trek episode.) And even with the talking they do have, barely any of it really gives any updates on the progress of the war ("in the last week we've lost 7 ships and had to pull back from 3 star systems" etc...)

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« Reply #890 on: 16 February 2018, 17:47:34 »
Weird thing was they got a Priority One distress call from the Enterprise... then the ship sailed right up to them...

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« Reply #891 on: 16 February 2018, 17:51:09 »
Bear in mind most people who watched the show won't care about minor cosmetic differences and just got psyched by the appearance of the  Enterprise and the theme music playing over the credits. The blue lights, the different nacelle struts, none of that will matter

Sadly youre right.

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« Reply #892 on: 16 February 2018, 18:04:44 »
Sadly youre right.

Well, I don't think there's anything sad about that.
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« Reply #893 on: 16 February 2018, 18:34:26 »
Well, I don't think there's anything sad about that.

I do.

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« Reply #894 on: 16 February 2018, 19:27:15 »
But there's a new Star Trek show on TV and people are enjoying it, it's been a critical and commercial success.  Is that  sad because the Enterprise looks a little bit different?
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« Reply #895 on: 16 February 2018, 19:41:35 »
Well, I don't think there's anything sad about that.

It’s only sad for those who care more about how things look than their content.

For those of us who care about the story and the characters and for whom the look of the ships, aliens, etc is little more than set dressing and props, it’s not sad at all.

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« Reply #896 on: 17 February 2018, 07:57:12 »
Sadly youre right.

Thank god he's right. Because frankly nitpickets are the death and ruin of any universe.

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« Reply #897 on: 17 February 2018, 16:31:47 »
Thank god he's right. Because frankly nitpickets are the death and ruin of any universe.

Exactly. Nitpicking used to be a fun thing ("Look, the third stormtrooper bangs his head on the doorframe! Ha ha!"). Somewhere along the line, someone decided that any errors or changes are a Bad Thing, and now we're got the current state of affairs, where story potential is hamstrung by the all-powerful Canon.

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« Reply #898 on: 17 February 2018, 17:01:15 »

Sometimes expectations can be too high, for example "Independence Day: Resurgence" I knew exactly what to expect, so I was able to enjoy what it had to offer.
There is also a thing that expectations will increase over time, as most customers naturally expect that future products will be more developed.
This is a problem for older franchises, they need to retain their original appeal, and deliver a better product. The latest hollywood nostalgia products managed to deliver superior graphics, but the story/plot hasn't improved (and in some cases it has become worse).
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« Reply #899 on: 17 February 2018, 19:19:02 »
You know what? ****** canon. If one series decides Klingons should be "Puerto Ricans in gold lame" (thanks, Voltaire!) and another thinks they're best as lobster monsters, fine. It's all made-up anyway.

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