Star trek, R rated??!

[garhkal]

Apparently Quinten Tarentino is looking to direct the next Star trek, and reports of him being singing on to it, came ONLY after the owners agreed to allow him to turn it into yet another of his cuss word laden R rated film festivals. 

http://deadline.com/2017/12/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-r-rating-mark-l-smith-the-revenant-drew-pearce-lindsay-beer-jj-abrams-1202222161/

IF he gets it off the ground, would YOU be interested in watching such a show?

[pheonixstorm]

Watching? Yes. Paying to watch?? That is a different matter entirely.

Best comment though was

Will the Enterprise insignia be changed from NCC-1701 to NC-17?

[Sharpnel]

IF he gets it off the ground, would YOU be interested in watching such a show?

No, especially if the dialogue is typical of his many works. I don't need/want to hear f-bombs in every sentence in a Star Trek movie.

[Feenix74]

Jules and Vincent would make an awesome away team  :D

[pheonixstorm]

This could still be an R rated film w/o all the profanity. Hopefully that is the case, Trek could use a little more boom splat. Doesn't need nudity or a lot of profanity though.

[Kidd]

"Know what they call a quarter pounder in Klingon?"

My sympathies. I'm interested to see what comes of this, but I'd hate to see QT's mitts on a Star Wars movie myself.

[HobbesHurlbut]

You guys do know ST: Discovery is "cable" which mean they can do stuff above the rating they would be only allowed on network TV.

[JadeHellbringer]

Based on the reaction to the past few movies and Discovery, fans are going to throw a fit about anything Trek does. Might as well branch out and try new things if the reaction is always going to be the same either way.

[IAMCLANWOLF]

An 'R' rated Trek directed by Quentin Tarantino? What alternate reality did I wake to this morning?
I'm afraid the Star Trek I fell in love with might very well be forever dead to the 'cool kids.'
Unfortunately, I can say no more...

[Weirdo]

As long as they don't screw up existing ship designs, I'll reserve judgement on the rest.

[HobbesHurlbut]

An 'R' rated Trek directed by Quentin Tarantino? What alternate reality did I wake to this morning?
I'm afraid the Star Trek I fell in love with might very well be forever dead to the 'cool kids.'
Unfortunately, I can say no more...

Oy  #P .... you know the Star Trek: Discovery already went over this? being cable instead of network.

[IAMCLANWOLF]

Oy  #P .... you know the Star Trek: Discovery already went over this? being cable instead of network.

Nope. Don't watch it, so why would I read that thread? Sorry to trouble you.

[Maingunnery]

In my opinion Quentin Tarantino is highly overrated, so I won't bother to watch it. 

[Garrand]

As long as they don't screw up existing ship designs, I'll reserve judgement on the rest.

Too late for this position, I'm thinking...

Damon.

[Weirdo]

Too late for this position, I'm thinking...

Damon.

What, they've leaked pictures of the ships already?

(I'm serious. I'm willing to forgive a lot of they don't mess up my spaceships.)

[Ruger]

What, they've leaked pictures of the ships already?

(I'm serious. I'm willing to forgive a lot of they don't mess up my spaceships.)

Star Trek Discovery and the Klingon ships...the Federation ones at least look like derivations of the Federation ships we've seen before (saucer, nacelles, etc.)...Klingon ones? Not so much...

But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong...

Ruger

[Kit deSummersville]

What, they've leaked pictures of the ships already?

(I'm serious. I'm willing to forgive a lot of they don't mess up my spaceships.)

Not for the movie that has yet to even be started, no.

[Garrand]

Not just ST:D though. If the Tarantino movie rides off of what has already gone before, then the Enterprise has certainly been "messed" with, with varying opnions on how it was done & the sanctity of the original designs (YMMV). I would assume any future movies would use a JJ-Prise derivative.

Damon.

[Weirdo]

I'll decide after I see pictures. If Tarantino shows that he can make a Trek without screwing up the Constitution or D7 classes, he'll gain much in my estimation. If he can't...he gets lumped in with Abrams and that ilk.

[garhkal]

This could still be an R rated film w/o all the profanity. Hopefully that is the case, Trek could use a little more boom splat. Doesn't need nudity or a lot of profanity though.

Boom-splat i can agree with, but i still can't see how that would force a movie to go to R rated, unless its got gratuitous gore..

In my opinion Quentin Tarantino is highly overrated, so I won't bother to watch it.

I feel the same..  Most of his works i have not seen, the few i have, were NOT in my top 50 or even 100 films.. 

[Liam's Ghost]

You know, his particular style of writing might work if he were writing for a group like the Orion pirates. Criminals, thugs, and green hookers.

[Lazarus Jaguar]

I'd like to comment on this but  I don't know if my observation would be appropriate for this forum...

[Smegish]

Any chance for a Trek film with non-Federation protagonists?

[I am Belch II]

I'm not overly exicited about this option on Star Trek. Don't need a bunch of Star Trek Rated R part beucause I don't think that is Star Trek.

[pheonixstorm]

You know, his particular style of writing might work if he were writing for a group like the Orion pirates. Criminals, thugs, and green hookers.

Now that would be worth watching. The "darker" side of the ST universe. Something even the original Kirk ran into in the original series, though never really explored.

[Weirdo]

I find it interesting that nobody has even considered the idea that Trekantino might not be R-rated. People are capable of stepping outside their comfort zones on occasion.

[Firesprocket]

The majority, if not all, the coverage states Tarantino insisted on an R-rated material movie.  I Tarantino films and I like most Trek film.  The idea of them being in the same movie though is a bit of a stretch.  None the less, if I get Chief Engineer Jackson telling me we can't go to warp because there are space snakes that are clogging up the ** Dilithium crystal chamber, I think I will have reached my point that there are limits to the Trek universe.

[Hellraiser]

Finally, the soft core porn that Captain Kirk is known for !   hehehe ::)

[garhkal]

I find it interesting that nobody has even considered the idea that Trekantino might not be R-rated. People are capable of stepping outside their comfort zones on occasion.

If he could do a NON-r rated one i MIGHT be interested..  BUT the article says he made it known it was a 'demand to be R rated" and the exes's signed off on it..

[I am Belch II]

A not R-rated Tarntino movie would be very intresting. I don't know if the guy could do it. It was such a big deal when Disco dropped a F-bomb. I wonder what would happen when it drops a couple of dozen from that movie.

[Kidd]

In all seriousness... Logan and Deadpool pulled off successes thought to be impossible. It's worth a shot, innit?

A not R-rated Tarntino movie would be very intresting. I don't know if the guy could do it. It was such a big deal when Disco dropped a F-bomb. I wonder what would happen when it drops a couple of dozen from that movie.

I actually think Tarantino might do a better job than Discovery did. The man knows the use of dialogue, whereas that scene in Discovery was a rather pointless attempt at "look at me I'm so with it".

Trek has been flirting with it for quite some time anyway. "Double dumbass on you" anyone?

[gyedid]

I would consider going to see it if Christoph Waltz is in it.

cheers,

Gabe

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

In all seriousness... Logan and Deadpool pulled off successes thought to be impossible. It's worth a shot, innit?

Adult oriented comic books with gratuitous swearing and violence have been a thing for decades, though, and both Deadpool and Wolverine have been part of it.  Star Trek, not so much.

[Daemion]

But, Star Trek hasn't been averse to various gory demises. Or, demises in general. Remember the pile of gel that was the Science officer in the Motion Picture? The frozen corpses early on in season one of The Next Generation aboard a derelict Oberth class? And, with the JJ verse, we see more bodies in vacuum. People half-in-half-out of bulkheads in Voyager?

In fact, if anything, Star Trek has gone out of its way to point out how deadly space can be, and how even advanced tech might not be enough to keep one safe.

With the new visual possibilities, it's possible to really explore the gory, lethal side of space exploration. It would be kinda funny, as well, for someone to drop a swearword and have another higher-rank go Captain America and call 'Language!'. And, using Firefly as an example, they can get away with creatively masking it. Plenty of Klingon or Vulcan to work with, let alone all the dying Earth languages.

[Matti]

In fact, if anything, Star Trek has gone out of its way to point out how deadly space can be, and how even advanced tech might not be enough to keep one safe.

I remember this one scene in TNG: there is a fire, couple crew members put it out by exposing the room to the vacuum, then rush across the airless room towards a control console to raise the shields (maybe?) and restore the atmosphere.

[Pat Payne]

Apparently Quinten Tarentino is looking to direct the next Star trek, and reports of him being singing on to it, came ONLY after the owners agreed to allow him to turn it into yet another of his cuss word laden R rated film festivals. 

http://deadline.com/2017/12/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-r-rating-mark-l-smith-the-revenant-drew-pearce-lindsay-beer-jj-abrams-1202222161/

IF he gets it off the ground, would YOU be interested in watching such a show?

I highly, highly HIGHLY doubt that anyone sane at Paramount would have signed off on an ultra-violent, profanity-laced Star Trek. First, it's a venerable franchise that still has pretensions of being a family franchise. They sell toys, for cryin' out loud! Second, fans would riot in the streets, as it would be a perversion of everything the franchise had stood for -- if Gene Roddenberry weren't dead and his ashes in space, this would have killed him. Third, the news is from a gossip site. Wake me when this is reported by the LA Times or someone, and actually uses named, on-the-record sources.

Trek has been flirting with it for quite some time anyway. "Double dumbass on you" anyone?

Except that that movie was still PG, it was the LEAST violent in the series, and the line was not gratuitous, but to establish that Kirk and crew hadn't a clue how to blend in with 1980's America. And let's face it -- "dumbass" is squeaky-clean compared to the language that drivers use in the real world  :))

But, Star Trek hasn't been averse to various gory demises. Or, demises in general. Remember the pile of gel that was the Science officer in the Motion Picture? The frozen corpses early on in season one of The Next Generation aboard a derelict Oberth class? And, with the JJ verse, we see more bodies in vacuum. People half-in-half-out of bulkheads in Voyager?

But there's the difference between establishing a threat and being "Rated 'M' for Money". And all of those have been still fairly restrained. The Motion Picture was originally rated G, for instance. (That's still when G meant something, but still...)

In fact, if anything, Star Trek has gone out of its way to point out how deadly space can be, and how even advanced tech might not be enough to keep one safe.

And, using Firefly as an example, they can get away with creatively masking it. Plenty of Klingon or Vulcan to work with, let alone all the dying Earth languages.

But that wouldn't be Tarantino-esque R-rating material. Star Wars Rebels freely drops the "K-bomb" (the in universe curse "Karabast") in a Disney show rated TV-Y7.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I highly, highly HIGHLY doubt that anyone sane at Paramount would have signed off on an ultra-violent, profanity-laced Star Trek. First, it's a venerable franchise that still has pretensions of being a family franchise. They sell toys, for cryin' out loud!

Having a toyline isn't really an indication that a franchise is for kids or family friendly.

Robocop, Predator, Aliens, and Hellraiser all had action figure lines.

[pheonixstorm]

Hellraiser had toys?? Now there is a movie should never have a toy line lol

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

They weren't marketed to kids.

[Kidd]

Except that that movie was still PG, it was the LEAST violent in the series, and the line was not gratuitous, but to establish that Kirk and crew hadn't a clue how to blend in with 1980's America. And let's face it -- "dumbass" is squeaky-clean compared to the language that drivers use in the real world  :))

True. That was THE most feel-good Trek movie ever ::) if there was a Trek Christmas special, that would be it.

"Gratuitous" is the only way to describe the Discovery F-bombs though. And that is a shame.

[YingJanshi]

But, Star Trek hasn't been averse to various gory demises. Or, demises in general. Remember the pile of gel that was the Science officer in the Motion Picture? The frozen corpses early on in season one of The Next Generation aboard a derelict Oberth class? And, with the JJ verse, we see more bodies in vacuum. People half-in-half-out of bulkheads in Voyager?

In fact, if anything, Star Trek has gone out of its way to point out how deadly space can be, and how even advanced tech might not be enough to keep one safe.

With the new visual possibilities, it's possible to really explore the gory, lethal side of space exploration. It would be kinda funny, as well, for someone to drop a swearword and have another higher-rank go Captain America and call 'Language!'. And, using Firefly as an example, they can get away with creatively masking it. Plenty of Klingon or Vulcan to work with, let alone all the dying Earth languages.

There was also that first season TNG episode where Picard and Riker phasered a guy...he ended up going explody and a creature pulled an "Alien" out of the wreckage...that'd still be pretty shocking on network TV even today...

Hellraiser had toys?? Now there is a movie should never have a toy line lol

Well...there's toys and then there's toys...

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

There was also that first season TNG episode where Picard and Riker phasered a guy...he ended up going explody and a creature pulled an "Alien" out of the wreckage...that'd still be pretty shocking on network TV even today.

Which stood out as especially odd because every episode before or after hap people either fall over or disappear upon getting phasered.

[Ruger]

I remember this one scene in TNG: there is a fire, couple crew members put it out by exposing the room to the vacuum, then rush across the airless room towards a control console to raise the shields (maybe?) and restore the atmosphere.

That was Geordi and Dr. Crusher...this was the same episode where Picard got trapped on a turbolift with three kids that were the winners of the science fair, and they had to climb up the shaft because the safety systems failed, and the lift fell...Riker and Data had to crawl through Jeffries tubes to get to engineering to save the ship from a warp core explosion or some-such because apparently everyone down there was killed (otherwise, why did they have to go down several decks to get there when others would have been closer?)...where Worf had to deliver Keiko's baby in 10 Forward...and where Troi was in command when they hit the cosmic filament that wrecked the ship, with basically only Ro and Chief O'Brien on the bridge with her, and Ro was pressing her to detach the saucer to save most of the crew because of the explosion that was to happen...

Ruger

[ANS Kamas P81]

You know, speaking of Picard, Patrick Stewart's on record as "if there's any way I can get in on this film I want it, I love Tarantino's work" - so just keep that in your mind.

Idly, a Klingon heist movie would be amazing fun.  Or play up a remake of Magnificent Seven, where Picard looks up Worf to hire some under-the-table muscle to deal with a pirate problem on his retirement planet that Starfleet is too busy to handle.  Maybe they have to steal a Defiant from a starfleet boneyard as part of the fun, then go at it in space and on the ground with the pirates.

[YingJanshi]

You know, speaking of Picard, Patrick Stewart's on record as "if there's any way I can get in on this film I want it, I love Tarantino's work" - so just keep that in your mind.

Idly, a Klingon heist movie would be amazing fun.  Or play up a remake of Magnificent Seven, where Picard looks up Worf to hire some under-the-table muscle to deal with a pirate problem on his retirement planet that Starfleet is too busy to handle.  Maybe they have to steal a Defiant from a starfleet boneyard as part of the fun, then go at it in space and on the ground with the pirates.

Starring the Duras Sisters? :D

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Starring the Duras Sisters? :D

Aren't they a bit dead for that?

[ANS Kamas P81]

Starring the Duras Sisters? :D

No, they're paste since Generations.  Get a new villain!

[YingJanshi]

I meant for the Klingon heist story...

[Daemion]

I remember this one scene in TNG: there is a fire, couple crew members put it out by exposing the room to the vacuum, then rush across the airless room towards a control console to raise the shields (maybe?) and restore the atmosphere.

Yup. It wasn't a normal fire, either. It was glowing green.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

And one of the numerous examples of the silly construction of Starfleet vessels.  Why in the world would you put the emergency close button for an airlock on a wall on the other side of the room from the button that opens it?

[garhkal]

In all seriousness... Logan and Deadpool pulled off successes thought to be impossible. It's worth a shot, innit?
I actually think Tarantino might do a better job than Discovery did. The man knows the use of dialogue, whereas that scene in Discovery was a rather pointless attempt at "look at me I'm so with it".

Trek has been flirting with it for quite some time anyway. "Double dumbass on you" anyone?

True, Deadpool/Logan pulled it off, but both were KNOWN for their crassness..  I've not remembered much in the way of cussing in ALL my watching of trek (or reading it)..

But, Star Trek hasn't been averse to various gory demises. Or, demises in general. Remember the pile of gel that was the Science officer in the Motion Picture? The frozen corpses early on in season one of The Next Generation aboard a derelict Oberth class? And, with the JJ verse, we see more bodies in vacuum. People half-in-half-out of bulkheads in Voyager?

I wouldn't call that gory..  The 'gel' was just there..  The vaccum of people, had no blood or body parts..  And the people in walls, was just 'there (like they were in a hole)//

[Lazarus Jaguar]

And one of the numerous examples of the silly construction of Starfleet vessels.  Why in the world would you put the emergency close button for an airlock on a wall on the other side of the room from the button that opens it?

Actually the close button was right there next to the open switch.  What they had to get to was the controls to repressurize the room.

[Kit deSummersville]

A not R-rated Tarntino movie would be very intresting. I don't know if the guy could do it.

He managed to direct an episode of ER that met broadcast standards....