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Domi1981

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New Locust design incoming?
« on: 24 October 2015, 05:07:18 »
Hi,

I saw someone very cool design on this website http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/130143510221/unlock-story-campaign-day-one
and wanted to know if thats just a hoax or if there will be finally a proper design of the Locust? I really love those new stalker and Locust designs.

Moreover I would like to know what "retcon" means. http://www.dsa-updates.de/page/2/
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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #1 on: 24 October 2015, 05:24:46 »
It's no hoax. There is an ongoing effort to redesign all of the 'Mechs whose art can no longer be used. PGI/HBS (computer games) and CGL (tabletop games) are currently doing their own, similar-but-different, designs due to licensing technicalities.

"Retcon" means "retroactive continuity." In its most common form, something was written years ago and forms part of the ongoing story. At a later date, it is decided that the "something" doesn't fit with the story after all, and the fictional events (or whatever) are literally rewritten. The term can also refer to simply expanding the backstory, where nothing is changed.
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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #2 on: 24 October 2015, 05:36:33 »
Very nice. Thank you for the elaborate answer. I just wonder how we can be sure that Harmony Gold wont kick us in the chin again for copyright infringement. How can we be sure that wont happen, since the new designs clearly look very similar to the originals. HG will sure go at us again don´t you think?

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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #3 on: 24 October 2015, 06:43:07 »
Very nice. Thank you for the elaborate answer. I just wonder how we can be sure that Harmony Gold wont kick us in the chin again for copyright infringement. How can we be sure that wont happen, since the new designs clearly look very similar to the originals. HG will sure go at us again don´t you think?

No, I don't ****** think. While these new designs are clearly inspired by others' copyrighted material, they are fully different in nearly every detail. It's like saying Ford could sue Toyota because both make four-door sedans.
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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #4 on: 24 October 2015, 11:51:26 »
Fantastic new Locust.

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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #5 on: 24 October 2015, 13:37:56 »
Very nice. Thank you for the elaborate answer. I just wonder how we can be sure that Harmony Gold wont kick us in the chin again for copyright infringement. How can we be sure that wont happen, since the new designs clearly look very similar to the originals. HG will sure go at us again don´t you think?

I'm pretty sure CGL had to get the approval of Topps legal team to do any of these new designs. (Remember Topps owns the IP, CGL just licenses it to publish the books.) If there was any issues with HG or anyone else over them, it would be Topps footing the bill.

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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #6 on: 24 October 2015, 15:34:38 »
The 'is this legal' talk has been had a couple of times since the announcement came down- suffice to say that CGL wouldn't be doing this if they were worried about going to court.
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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #7 on: 24 October 2015, 21:15:25 »
yep and these new designs have me dancing in the streets they're so good.

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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #8 on: 27 October 2015, 06:53:53 »
Very nice. Thank you for the elaborate answer. I just wonder how we can be sure that Harmony Gold wont kick us in the chin again for copyright infringement. How can we be sure that wont happen, since the new designs clearly look very similar to the originals. HG will sure go at us again don´t you think?

Its in part due to a recent lawsuit against GW that GW won. The short version is since HG isnt producing the media (minis in this case) based on the artwork another company (CGL/IWM) can if they have it based of artwork they own.

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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #9 on: 28 October 2015, 12:30:57 »
Almost forgot the most important question: when will they be released? Are there any links to pictures?

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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #10 on: 28 October 2015, 12:32:01 »
Almost forgot the most important question: when will they be released? Are there any links to pictures?

Uncertain at this time, and the Master Unit List has the new art used for the LCT-1V and its variants.
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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #11 on: 28 October 2015, 14:23:44 »
Are there any designs substituted by the new ones, I mean except the original unseen?

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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #12 on: 28 October 2015, 14:37:38 »
No.

This has all been gone over before. Go check the General Discussion board.
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Re: New Locust design incoming?
« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2015, 00:17:26 »
Okay, thanks so far. O0

 

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