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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #690 on: 22 April 2017, 06:46:55 »
Omni-flexibility comes at a cost though. More a logistical one as if you want to have various configs for the world you're dropping on its more cargo space taken up and most DropShips have pathetic amounts of cargo.  And then its a case of "Okay do we pack a gauss rifle for the battle on the plains we want to fight...or do we pack some ammo for the AC-20's for the city we'll need to fight in.

Yes, but that should already be figured in with the Clan organisations and their transport assets (there is a reason these have never been codified) and as such already factored in.

Look at how Phelan Ward - while being on the run during the CJF/CW War in 3057-58, was able to reconfigure several Galaxies to pure energy weapons for the assault on the CJF forces on a arctic world. Which means he had the supplies with him as part of the regular Galaxy transport makeup.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #691 on: 22 April 2017, 15:20:19 »
So how is the fiction coming of CJF post 3145 ? I am looking for any data, no matter how small, or even a summarised update from members on how my beloved Clan is going, and up to date official IS map would be good. Also how are sourcebooks coming ?

Lucky i noticed this, i actually compiled time line for post-3145 based on what TRO3150 reveals us.
Not much stuff in there really, they're basically just teasers.

I'll copy Falcon-related stuff here:
EDIT Note, i paraphrased stuff from the TRO. I just wanted an overview for myself.

3146
-February: Jade Falcons raid Ludwigshafen.
-September: Jade Falcons assault Ark-Royal. Fall of Ark-Royal.

3148
-Resistance against Jade Falcon occupiers across Donegal Province.
-Early: Jade Falcons attack Coventry, the Battle of Coventry.

Unknown year
-Nineteenth Battle of Hesperus II. (Unless this refers to the battle covered in DA novels and Field Manual 3145 ?? Someone please correct me.)
-Hell's Horses Operation NOYAN, assault on New Oslo. (Including this because the Hell's Horses are Falcon allies... partially anyway.)

Aand that's it, for what TRO3150 contains about Falcons, unless i missed something.
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« Reply #692 on: 22 April 2017, 15:59:49 »
Pretty sure there's more stuff. I know about one for sure, the Falcons salvaged a Quadvee (I forget which one, but it wasn't a Harpagos or Arion), but the conversion equipment was damaged and the Falcons couldn't repair it.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #693 on: 22 April 2017, 16:31:52 »
Huh. I must've missed that. But then i was looking for dates and bigger events, not "trivia" per se.

Also, i used both TRO3150 and XTRO Republic III as sources, though i think all CJF stuff was from TRO3150. The only works dated after 3145 currently, i think?

EDIT Duh, i forgot First Succession War. Gotta read the introduction carefully... Eh, nothing of value except confirming that the Fortress Republic is up until early 3150 at least.

EDIT One more tidbit:
Arion second pilot entry notes something about "Falcon reprisal raids". It seems the Horse-Falcon alliance has fallen apart?
EDIT Yes, "Rising tensions between those Clans".

EDIT Found the salvaged QuadVee (Boreas) thing. It seems the Falcons and Horses clashed on Leskovik during Horses' Operation NOYAN.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #694 on: 23 April 2017, 21:23:56 »
Omni % hails from when Omnis were the kings of the battlefield. Part of that fact is due to being able to reconfigure your mech due to battlefield conditions. (Remember that Omni reconfiguration goes way beyond the stock models, they are just the most regular used models which pods are preconfigured for).
Planning a long campaign where resupply might be hard? Change to energy weapons only.
Extra hot planet? Change to heat-efficicient weapons.
Cold planet? Pack some extra lasers (as Phelan did in Bred for War) to exploit the extra cooling.
Urban assault? Pack short range heavy hitting weapons.
Sniping trip? Reconfigure for long range weaponry.

And so forth.

While a standard Mech might be better individually in a normal short fight - how does it stand up for a various prolonged campaigns in differing conditions and situations?

But face it - being able to reuse the same Omni models over and over doesn't sell TROs which is why you get totem mechs... Even if Clan doctrine is built around the Omni... But try telling marketing people that. :P

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #695 on: 24 April 2017, 15:04:47 »
I just had a look at the Shrike 3 and ye gods that thing is a terrifying heat hog.  Even if you add 4 tons of heatsinks its a monster, 54 heat before moving if you look at the alpha button  from the energy weapons alone. 

You'd think that Malvina would choose a more efficient weapon mix rather than the 3 which just slaps a pair of ER Peepers on and sets the atmosphere on fire if you press the big red Alpha button.  But then again this is Malvina Hazen we're talking about here.  The word 'balanced' or 'efficient' or 'sane' most certinally need not apply.

I was surprised as well- the novels gave me the impression she had medium lasers in the shoulder mounts, not larges, which means saving a lot of weight for heat sinks if you go that route and makes for a pretty good Mech (basically base it off the Shrike 2 rather than the 1). That it has the larges ruins what could otherwise be a good Mech- it can't use the long-range energy weapon battery together, which means you'll likely never use the lasers, so why bother having them to begin with?

VERY disappointed in that one. The standard Shrike is kind of fun, the 2 is okay, and the 3 is just shy of unusable.
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« Reply #696 on: 24 April 2017, 15:45:56 »
Shrike 3 looks scary good in Alpha Strike. 7 Damage on a long range overheat, with a 10" jump for the recover turn after a blaze...  Put it in a Fire Star or give it the Range Master: Long SPA and it'd scare the hell out of me if I had to face it.

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« Reply #697 on: 24 April 2017, 15:54:55 »
I was surprised as well- the novels gave me the impression she had medium lasers in the shoulder mounts, not larges, which means saving a lot of weight for heat sinks if you go that route and makes for a pretty good Mech (basically base it off the Shrike 2 rather than the 1). That it has the larges ruins what could otherwise be a good Mech- it can't use the long-range energy weapon battery together, which means you'll likely never use the lasers, so why bother having them to begin with?

VERY disappointed in that one. The standard Shrike is kind of fun, the 2 is okay, and the 3 is just shy of unusable.
I vaguely remember thinking she started with the UAC/10 version as well (Shrike 2) and then she just went with ERPPCs when the arm got whacked off at one point in the novels. The only problem is if you just pack in the heat sinks you end up without any crit space, but 4 free tons. You could dump that into armoring various components, at least that doesn't need extra crit space.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #698 on: 24 April 2017, 19:35:47 »
I vaguely remember thinking she started with the UAC/10 version as well (Shrike 2) and then she just went with ERPPCs when the arm got whacked off at one point in the novels. The only problem is if you just pack in the heat sinks you end up without any crit space, but 4 free tons. You could dump that into armoring various components, at least that doesn't need extra crit space.

Yeah in Flight of the Falcon it looks like Black Rose is a Shrike 2.

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« Reply #699 on: 25 April 2017, 08:33:03 »
How about this then to make a more sane Black Rose.  Replace the top ER Larges with a pair of ER Meds (4 in total) and then bung the rest into heatsinks.
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« Reply #700 on: 25 April 2017, 09:01:58 »
I vaguely remember thinking she started with the UAC/10 version as well (Shrike 2) and then she just went with ERPPCs when the arm got whacked off at one point in the novels. The only problem is if you just pack in the heat sinks you end up without any crit space, but 4 free tons. You could dump that into armoring various components, at least that doesn't need extra crit space.

Hmmm. Four tons... tempted to play with IJJs, combined with the partial wing though I'm not sure how that works out. I like the armored component idea though- as often as Black Rose takes a pummeling, a bit of extra protection on important bits like the gyro and noodle aren't bad ideas.

*sigh* Malvina, man... setting up the Clan for annihilation AND her Mech sucks. Screw you, lady.  ;D

(I'll post it later in the design forum, but some tinkering with the Shrike 1 saw the Ultras go out in favor of a Gauss rifle, the LRM for a couple of SRM racks, a flamer added, etc., and to my surprise it became an Executioner Prime With Added Scariness. It's a blast- I may never use another assault Mech. ;) )
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« Reply #701 on: 25 April 2017, 16:58:01 »
Yes, but that should already be figured in with the Clan organisations and their transport assets (there is a reason these have never been codified) and as such already factored in.

Look at how Phelan Ward - while being on the run during the CJF/CW War in 3057-58, was able to reconfigure several Galaxies to pure energy weapons for the assault on the CJF forces on a arctic world. Which means he had the supplies with him as part of the regular Galaxy transport makeup.

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Maybe yes, maybe no.  First, all the galaxies participating were reorganized prior to the Trial so regular doesn't really apply (Phelan took Natasha's Alpha Galaxy including her 13th Wolf Guards and Ulric's Golden Keshik which was expanded to a full Cluster, etc).  Second, the timetable of Ulric's plan didn't leave room for the Wolves to take time off to get resupplied from the Wolf OZ after each battle.  And third, Ulric's plan was for Phelan's forces to eventually make a break for the Lyran border and go into permanent exile which would cut him off from getting reliable supply shipments from the Homeworlds so it makes sense that he would bring more supplies than 'normal'. 

The only additional supplies they were able to bring is what the Potemkin-class Full Moon would be bringing (along with everything else it was transporting from the Homeworlds-lower caste, sibkos, a copy of the Clans' genetic legacies, etc).  It wouldn't be until 3061 that the Exiled Wolves would be able to start manufacturing new Clan-tech after capturing manufacturing equipment from the Ghost Bears on Utrecht in late 3060 (It takes time to get back and set up so I reckon 3061 at best).
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« Reply #702 on: 26 April 2017, 08:04:26 »
Hmmm. Four tons... tempted to play with IJJs, combined with the partial wing though I'm not sure how that works out. I like the armored component idea though- as often as Black Rose takes a pummeling, a bit of extra protection on important bits like the gyro and noodle aren't bad ideas.

*sigh* Malvina, man... setting up the Clan for annihilation AND her Mech sucks. Screw you, lady.  ;D

(I'll post it later in the design forum, but some tinkering with the Shrike 1 saw the Ultras go out in favor of a Gauss rifle, the LRM for a couple of SRM racks, a flamer added, etc., and to my surprise it became an Executioner Prime With Added Scariness. It's a blast- I may never use another assault Mech. ;) )
Unfortunately if you try to go with IJJ, to get a useful number of them (6) is gonna cost you 16 tons (8 to switch from JJ to IJJ, and 8 for the two extra ones). Granted at that point you've got twin ERPPCs, twin ERMLs, and an LRM10 jumping 7 hexes in a 95-tonner, but you had to ditch the UAC-10s, ammo, and targeting computer to get there. And you only sink 25 heat.

Personally, if you want ERPPCs, just stick with adding Laser HS to full and armoring components. If you want the 7 hex jump go with LPLs instead of ERPPCs to be able to fire more weapons.


Maybe yes, maybe no.  First, all the galaxies participating were reorganized prior to the Trial so regular doesn't really apply (Phelan took Natasha's Alpha Galaxy including her 13th Wolf Guards and Ulric's Golden Keshik which was expanded to a full Cluster, etc).  Second, the timetable of Ulric's plan didn't leave room for the Wolves to take time off to get resupplied from the Wolf OZ after each battle.  And third, Ulric's plan was for Phelan's forces to eventually make a break for the Lyran border and go into permanent exile which would cut him off from getting reliable supply shipments from the Homeworlds so it makes sense that he would bring more supplies than 'normal'. 

The only additional supplies they were able to bring is what the Potemkin-class Full Moon would be bringing (along with everything else it was transporting from the Homeworlds-lower caste, sibkos, a copy of the Clans' genetic legacies, etc).  It wouldn't be until 3061 that the Exiled Wolves would be able to start manufacturing new Clan-tech after capturing manufacturing equipment from the Ghost Bears on Utrecht in late 3060 (It takes time to get back and set up so I reckon 3061 at best).
What Øystein is saying is that if you know you're going to fighting on planet X, you take enough supplies to fight effectively in any terrain there, or be prepared to fight in sub-optimal conditions. If that means taking an extra supply dropship or two, you plan that before even departing so you have what you need.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon Thread II: Falcon Harder. I SAID HARDER!
« Reply #703 on: 02 June 2017, 00:08:17 »
The best ERPPC Shrike I've been able to come up with replaced the ERLLs with Plasma Cannons. Maybe the LRMs as well; it's been a while since I've looked at it.

It ended up being a little more capable against conventional units, which is something the Shrike always had an issue with. Plus, setting fires to give Falcon BA cover is always fun.

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« Reply #704 on: 16 June 2017, 10:17:47 »
The best ERPPC Shrike I've been able to come up with replaced the ERLLs with Plasma Cannons. Maybe the LRMs as well; it's been a while since I've looked at it.

It ended up being a little more capable against conventional units, which is something the Shrike always had an issue with. Plus, setting fires to give Falcon BA cover is always fun.

Meh. Infantry and vehicles. Beneath the attention of a glorious Shrike driver anyway. Let the battle armor clean them up- or keep a Loki II-B around if you need to mop up quickly (if perhaps with a bit more zeal than tact...) ;)
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« Reply #705 on: 16 June 2017, 11:46:22 »
Tact? We are Falcons! For us, tact is shooting someone and scorning their corpse, as opposed to scorning then and then shooting them.
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« Reply #706 on: 16 June 2017, 11:51:39 »
Tact? We are Falcons! For us, tact is shooting someone and scorning their corpse, as opposed to scorning then and then shooting them.

One will agree that a Long Tom round is certainly one way to scorn a whole lot of people at the same time.  ^-^
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« Reply #707 on: 16 June 2017, 13:56:44 »
AE scorn?

Good lord, the Falcons have rediscovered the internet! :o
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« Reply #708 on: 16 June 2017, 14:31:18 »
AE scorn?

Good lord, the Falcons have rediscovered the internet! :o

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« Reply #709 on: 16 June 2017, 14:51:28 »
At least we don't have to worry about them going on Twitter. No true Falcon can type out "SCREEE!!!" and keep it under 140 characters.
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« Reply #710 on: 16 June 2017, 15:05:51 »
At least we don't have to worry about them going on Twitter. No true Falcon can type out "SCREEE!!!" and keep it under 140 characters.

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« Reply #711 on: 17 June 2017, 00:01:07 »
"Does the mighty Jade Falcon come so far to trial for mere supplies?  Is your Clan so bereft that you are reduced to this?  Perhaps you should harvest the valuable feathers of your totem, Falcon 'warrior.'  Go pluck yourselves."

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« Reply #712 on: 18 June 2017, 21:10:47 »
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« Reply #713 on: 18 June 2017, 21:22:55 »
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« Reply #714 on: 19 June 2017, 00:40:12 »
LOL worktroll, I don't think Clan Rat Cat exists.  But it should.  Actually the line was a quote from FGC 63, when I was playing for the Scorpions - CJF came to trial for a whole ton of stuff against a little outpost, like....they wanted a factory, mech cluster, and half the planet with something like a full galaxy for the trial when it was basically a 1FP 'this is my territory' garrison.  I decided it was too UnClanlike in its wastefulness, and advised the JF commander of an alternate means to provide the resources they needed :D

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« Reply #715 on: 19 June 2017, 00:53:25 »
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« Reply #716 on: 19 June 2017, 01:26:05 »
Smoke Jaguars make a useful proxy for Kzinti O0
I stand entirely and pleasantly corrected.  Damn, now I need a Jag unit.

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« Reply #717 on: 19 June 2017, 01:56:31 »
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Sunder R
Avatar R
Raptor R
Atlas C
Warhamer C

Enjoy!

TT

Khan,Clan Iron Dolphin
Azeroth Pocketverse

That is, if true tanker doesn't beat me to it. He makes truly evil units.Col.Hengist on 31 May 2013
TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
If I'm attacking you, conventional wisom says to bring 3x your force.  I want extra insurance, so I'll bring 4 for every 1 of what you have :D ~ Tai Dai Cultist on 21 April 2016
Me: Would you rather fight my Epithymía Thanátou from the Whispers of Blake?
Nav_Alpha: That THING... that is horrid
~ Nav_Alpha on 10 October 2016

 

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