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Re: X-Wing and Starwars fleet scale game?
« Reply #60 on: 24 December 2015, 19:39:45 »

I always thought it was closer to 40 ISD's alone. With one SSD that would take up a whole board.

going by visual analysis.. the Imperials had 1 SSD, and 42 ISD's. and nothing else.

the old EU about doubled this with various ships not in evidence in the footage (interdictors, carracks, victory's, etc)

the did the same to the Rebels..

the film has something like
the home one
3 mon cal cruisers
1 Nebulon-B "medical frigate"
2-3 CR-90 corvettes
5-6 GR-75 transports
and a lot of X-wings, A-wings, Y-wings, and B-wings.

the EU about doubles the fleet with various ship types not in evidence in the footage,. and you get things like the rebels capturing half a dozen star destroyers during the battle..



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« Reply #61 on: 24 December 2015, 21:21:14 »
Weirdo, your best bet is Rebel Acss and then probably a Falcon or an Outrider.  The Rebel big ships can cost up to half a list by themselves kitted out.
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« Reply #62 on: 24 December 2015, 21:32:54 »
Rebel Aces will give you an A wing and a B wing, but all the other packs are singles.
This or get one of the larger ships like the Falcon or Ghost

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« Reply #63 on: 24 December 2015, 21:56:15 »
Han Solo in the Falcon and Corran Horn in the E-wing is a pretty solid list.  Some of the typical upgrades for both come in Rebel Aces, but honestly you only need a couple ships to build a list on either side.
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« Reply #64 on: 24 December 2015, 22:04:12 »
A naked falcon can cost nearly 50 points on its own and the falcons are pretty good ships.
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« Reply #65 on: 26 December 2015, 18:36:27 »
Weirdo, saw your post on FFG's Armada forum about adding to your core set.  I'd ask them about expansion synergies (e.g., the MC30 & CR-90 for Turbo Laser Reroute Circuits or Gen. Riekeen (sp)).  I'm a complete noob regarding the game so I'm of limited help.  Also, Rogues & Villians might be a good option after a another medium ship or two; Amazon had the CR-90 for cheap the other day.

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« Reply #66 on: 26 December 2015, 19:55:44 »
I'm not really concerned with getting the most out of upgrade and special ability cards and whatnot, just having fun with cool looking ships. Vague balance is far more important to me than full performance.

At this point, I think my plan is to pick up a Gladiator SD, Assault FF Mk II, and Raider PC. That'll give me a properly Imperial lean, and a Rebel fleet that can give my giant space wedges a decent fight. I'll work on expanding from there in the future.
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« Reply #67 on: 26 December 2015, 22:37:51 »
Understandable.  I was trying to give you a reason to mine some of the older and now cheaper expansions that you could leverage against the new expansions.

While my wife occupied the upstairs television watching a bowl game, I was watching WSH vs. PHI while I opened my birthday Rebel birthday haul (2 x MC30 & 1 x MC80).

Also breaking back to X-Wing, The Force Awakens core set has been on sale in a number of places; I should have mentioned that in an earlier post.

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« Reply #68 on: 29 December 2015, 02:20:39 »
Quick question for those who have played Armada, now: Do they use the fighter figures on the stands as a form of hit points? Should I be mindfull of having to remove them from the stands before I go too far in painting them up for cross platform play?

This occurred to me while painting up BattleLore figures, and how that game does damage tracking. It wouldn't surprise me if they replicated the mechanic in other games.

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« Reply #69 on: 29 December 2015, 05:39:44 »
Quick question for those who have played Armada, now: Do they use the fighter figures on the stands as a form of hit points? Should I be mindfull of having to remove them from the stands before I go too far in painting them up for cross platform play?

This occurred to me while painting up BattleLore figures, and how that game does damage tracking. It wouldn't surprise me if they replicated the mechanic in other games.

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No, the figher base has a hit point dial on the bottom; the fighters themselves sre an abtract representation of a unit.

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« Reply #70 on: 29 December 2015, 12:30:56 »
Death Squadron, Vaders personal fleet was something like one Super Star Destroyer and twenty two Imperial Star Destroyers originally in the early novels. After several years it doubled to near forty ships and had two captured during the battle. Including one somehow by Han Solo who was on Endor at the time. Think the story was referenced in the X-Wing novels by Stackpole.
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« Reply #71 on: 29 December 2015, 13:28:53 »
Vader's Death Squad....was that the fleet at Endor??
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« Reply #72 on: 29 December 2015, 17:11:10 »
No, the figher base has a hit point dial on the bottom; the fighters themselves sre an abtract representation of a unit.

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Cool. So, if I wanted to, I could have just one fighter on the stand, and it should be okay to play. Or no fighters, even.
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« Reply #73 on: 29 December 2015, 21:14:38 »
Thanks.

Cool. So, if I wanted to, I could have just one fighter on the stand, and it should be okay to play. Or no fighters, even.
Well, with friends or by yourself you'd be okay; wander into a game store to play with FFG tourney regulars you might get a different answer.

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« Reply #74 on: 29 December 2015, 22:14:01 »
Vader's Death Squad....was that the fleet at Endor??

Hoth too. it was something of a personal fleet of his.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Squadron

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Squadron/Legends

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« Reply #75 on: 29 December 2015, 22:32:01 »
FFG is getting ready to drop an expansion pack that's the Ghost, Phantom and crew from Rebels and kitted out they will take up most of your points for a 100 point force.

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« Reply #76 on: 29 December 2015, 23:28:44 »
they've already released the Gozanti TIE carrier from Rebels, IIRC.
i wonder if/when they'll do the Inquisitor's "Advanced TIE" (which later showed up again with the new Inquisitors, and apparently is or can be made hyperdrive capable..)

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« Reply #77 on: 30 December 2015, 02:48:20 »
i wonder if/when they'll do the Inquisitor's "Advanced TIE"

As soon as the shipping containers finally clears customs.  The Gozanti, Ghost and Tie/Inq were all supposed to drop in time for Christmas but got delayed by a few weeks.  The Gozanti is out now and the Ghost should be reaching store shelves this week or next with the Tie/Inq not too far behind (probably third week of Jan).  Then the Mist hunter, Punishing One and Imperial Veterans pack(elite TIE Defender and Bomber) close out Wave 8 by the summer which should set us up for a Gen Con announcement of Wave 9.

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« Reply #78 on: 30 December 2015, 11:36:07 »
As soon as the shipping containers finally customs.  The Gozanti, Ghost and Tie/Inq were all supposed to drop in time for Christmas but got delayed by a few weeks.  The Gozanti is out now and the Ghost should be reaching store shelves this week or next with the Tie/Inq not too far behind (probably third week of Jan).  Then the Mist hunter, Punishing One and Imperial Veterans pack(elite TIE Defender and Bomber) close out Wave 8 by the summer which should set us up for a Gen Con announcement of Wave 9.

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« Reply #79 on: 30 December 2015, 11:39:01 »
As soon as the shipping containers finally customs.  The Gozanti, Ghost and Tie/Inq were all supposed to drop in time for Christmas but got delayed by a few weeks.  The Gozanti is out now and the Ghost should be reaching store shelves this week or next with the Tie/Inq not too far behind (probably third week of Jan).  Then the Mist hunter, Punishing One and Imperial Veterans pack(elite TIE Defender and Bomber) close out Wave 8 by the summer which should set us up for a Gen Con announcement of Wave 9.

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The Gozanti is not actually a part of Wave 8, but released close enough to cause some confusion.  The T-70 and TIE/FO packs are part of Wave 8, but were expedited in order to hit shelves the day of/before the movie released.  The rest of Wave 8 will be along in a few weeks, and will hit shelves simultaneously, including Ghost, the Inquisitor's Tie Advanced, Mist Hunter, and Punishing One.
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« Reply #80 on: 31 December 2015, 02:05:39 »
and will hit shelves simultaneously, including Ghost, the Inquisitor's Tie Advanced, Mist Hunter, and Punishing One.

I just researched then purchased several hundred dollars and multiple sources (ie retailers) have the releases staggered through out the first part of the year.

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« Reply #81 on: 31 December 2015, 10:59:44 »
I'll believe it when I open the shipping package and half the wave is not there; not before.  It makes little sense to stagger the release of a new wave in the prime of store championship season.
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« Reply #82 on: 31 December 2015, 13:34:21 »
Retailers taking preorders will slap on any date they think sounds right.   Every wave I've seen since I started playing has released all at once.
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« Reply #83 on: 01 January 2016, 03:35:49 »
played a couple games of X-wing today. my younger brother spent his Xmas money on a bunch of X-wing sets (IIRC, a core set, the rebel and imperial aces sets, singles for a TIE and Interceptor, the Falcon, and the Slave I)

he'd played it with friends before but we were both fairly new to it. first game was the 'tutorial' scenario with Luke's X-wing vs the two TIE's. he flew the TIE's, i had the X-wing. i won that one handily due to a mix of bad tactics on his part (early on he split his forces trying to get fancy, and didn't anticipate that i'd turn.. which put me in a great place to shoot up the weaker of the two TIE's.) in the end the X-wing didn't even have a scratch.

the 2nd game was a larger affair, 100pts each. i had the basic versions of the A-wing, X-wing, B-wing, and YT-1300, with about 11 points of the upgrades.
he had 3 Interceptors and 1 TIE, all special pilots (Fel, 2 royal guard, and howlrunner, IIRC) and tricked out with as many upgrades as he could fit.

that game was a bit of a mess (we added asteroids to the play area, and trying to avoid those just led to several multiple ship pileups), and we wound up attriting each other fairly heavily.. eventually it was down to Fell and howlrunner vs my B-wing and an A-wing.. the B-wing killed itself taking a risk for a better shot (it had a crit that meant the maneuver inflicted damage.. then it flew through an asteroid..  :-[ ) and then Howlrunner finished off the A-wing.

it was very close up till the last couple turns though.. a bit like a battletech game, once ships started being lost, a bunch went in a short time.

while i'd already spent my Xmas money (on some movies and things that had been on my list but i didn't get), i'm going to try and sell back some of my used books and DVD's to the local Hastings, see if i can get in-store credit enough to get some ships of my own.
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« Reply #84 on: 02 January 2016, 23:47:16 »
sorry for the double pot.
didn't manage to sell back as many books and DVD's as i'd hoped, so my own X-wing purchases are on hold till i can (maybe) sell some stuff via ebay.

was thinking a Force Awakens starter, a A-wing expansion, and a HWK-2900 expansion.. i played around on a online unit builder, can do some interesting stuff with those three to start. (gotta use named pilots though to fill a full 100pts.)

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Poe Dameron (t-70 Xwing), w/ BB-8, Proton torpedoes, and Push the Limit.
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« Reply #85 on: 03 January 2016, 03:09:19 »
Careful with torpedoes and missiles.  There's almost always a better use of your points.
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« Reply #86 on: 03 January 2016, 03:22:11 »
Careful with torpedoes and missiles.  There's almost always a better use of your points.


But also keep in mind that because everyone knows that, there are several nasty tournie lists that have them.

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« Reply #87 on: 03 January 2016, 03:39:24 »
well, not planning to do tournaments any time soon. just games with family and friends. (my brother is planning to introduce his Airsoft group to this game and others before long.. they saw pics of our games with his small collection and got interested) this is more of a "what can i build with the contents of 3 purchases", planning ahead some due to my limited budget.

a starter set, a A-wing, and a HWK are something i could reach by putting aside money from paychecks fairly easily. especially if i can sell some stuff on Ebay.


that said i've considered swapping the proton's in that for concussion missiles on the A-wing (since Poe is likely to attract a lot of fire)

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« Reply #88 on: 03 January 2016, 11:53:39 »
Careful with torpedoes and missiles.  There's almost always a better use of your points.

Bear in mind that unless you're in a tournament and there solely for the purpose of winning, 'better' and 'more efficient' are a lot less important than 'fun'. In my admittedly very limited experience, successfully dropping a salvo of protorps on a TIE Defender (or taking an Interceptor from 100% to mostly dead with a single Concussion Missile shot) is a LOT of fun. >:D

(and this is coming from the Imp player in that fight)
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« Reply #89 on: 03 January 2016, 12:35:29 »
Careful with torpedoes and missiles.  There's almost always a better use of your points.

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