Author Topic: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt Funded!!!!!  (Read 70233 times)

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This is the Funding thread for Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt (plus LB20 Alt Arm) and it needs $900.00 to be Funded.

Current Funds total $900.00 and has been funded

« Last Edit: 11 May 2015, 08:20:10 by speck »

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #1 on: 20 April 2015, 19:08:22 »
OK, I'm gonna start this off with a question: what do people actually want from this resculpt?
Here's a good, multi-angle example of what the current mini looks like: http://camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=4663

So using canon art references, what would you like changed? I think it's important to discuss this before going gung-ho towards financing it.
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #2 on: 20 April 2015, 19:19:57 »
OK, I'm gonna start this off with a question: what do people actually want from this resculpt?
Here's a good, multi-angle example of what the current mini looks like: http://camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=4663

So using canon art references, what would you like changed? I think it's important to discuss this before going gung-ho towards financing it.

A set of orthos has already been created based on the various Highlander art available. I will check to see if they are done and can be posted. Will update my first post when I have the okay.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #3 on: 20 April 2015, 19:26:28 »
Thanks Speck. I'm mostly asking because I think the current sculpt does a pretty good job of being faithful to the art we have...so I am curious to know what any potential changes might be.
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #4 on: 20 April 2015, 20:19:19 »
FWIW, I agree with GreekFire, I have no major issues with the current sculpt and it is on my current wishlist of minis to buy. I acknowledge and accept that others may have a different opinion on the current sculpt and feel strong enough about it that they are willing to put forward their money to see a resculpt made to improve it.

I am not planning to contribute to this funding effort at this point in time.
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #5 on: 20 April 2015, 20:52:53 »
I intend on contributing, However if there is an orthos already. I would like to see it. Thanks.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #6 on: 20 April 2015, 21:02:11 »
Orthos posted to first post

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #7 on: 20 April 2015, 21:04:16 »
Out of curiosity, does the mini need to look precisely like the TRO art? Most of the Star League 'Mechs in the 3050 Upgrade book are just drawn to look like the miniatures, rather than the other way around. I feel that limits what can be done.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #8 on: 20 April 2015, 22:06:03 »
Out of curiosity, does the mini need to look precisely like the TRO art? Most of the Star League 'Mechs in the 3050 Upgrade book are just drawn to look like the miniatures, rather than the other way around. I feel that limits what can be done.

Thats why the orthos pulled from a variety of Highlander art. Plus input from everyone in the QCC forum and CGL as well.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #9 on: 20 April 2015, 22:10:13 »
FWIW, I agree with GreekFire, I have no major issues with the current sculpt and it is on my current wishlist of minis to buy. I acknowledge and accept that others may have a different opinion on the current sculpt and feel strong enough about it that they are willing to put forward their money to see a resculpt made to improve it.

I am not planning to contribute to this funding effort at this point in time.

I am in the same boat, already have three of the current ones, think that they look good.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #10 on: 20 April 2015, 22:15:10 »
Well, I think the legs need a little more length, they look about the same height as the bent pose I always see illustrated. But the side shows standing straight. And the gauss needs a bit more length as well. But I said I would help and am in for $25 for now.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #11 on: 21 April 2015, 00:01:54 »
Mini's too small. The Highlander IIC is a little lanky with it, but looks great. The legs of the mini are short and stumpy; the body chubby; the right arm gauss rifle is a small beehive stuck on the wrist.

Yes, it matches the old TRO art, but consider the cover of the Northwind Highlanders supplement:



The current mini, with straight legs, is about as tall in proportion as the toilet-squatting Highlanders in the cover. This suggests longer legs, and longer arms (increased for both upper & lower arm sections) would be ideal.

I've made a few modifications using that high-tech tool, MS-Paint, to give some suggestions about what I mean, see attached. Changes are:

1) Legs lengthened by 20% in side view
2) Legs lengthened by 20%, and both legs and hips thinned by 10%. The leg thickness probably isn't an issue, but the hip section looks a bit big.
3) Inserted a second "upper arm" segment to each arm
4) Pulled the gun-shield on the right arm out 20% to extend past the muzzle

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #12 on: 21 April 2015, 05:00:45 »
The original mini is too small, the proportions are wrong.

1) Legs lengthened by 20% in side view
2) Legs lengthened by 20%, and both legs and hips thinned by 10%. The leg thickness probably isn't an issue, but the hip section looks a bit big.
3) Inserted a second "upper arm" segment to each arm
4) Pulled the gun-shield on the right arm out 20% to extend past the muzzle
Hmm, I see where you are coming from, but the only change I can get behind is 4) (and maybe thinning the hips - not the legs - by 10%). The other changes make the Highlander too thin and tall. It is not the tallest 90t Mech out there, but a rather massive one. It has a stocky, barrel chested build. The orthos in the first post beautifully represent what I am looking for in a Highlander, but I may be biased here ... ;)

Interestingly enough the orthos don't match the TRO art, but are rather an amalgam of all existing artworks. Including the Northwind Highlanders cover.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #13 on: 21 April 2015, 06:31:34 »
I can definitely get behind extending the gun shield and thinning the hips/pelvis. I'm fine with the arms and legs as they are.

I'll put up $50 to see it done.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #14 on: 21 April 2015, 08:18:38 »
I like Speck's ortho as far as the wider hips and thicker legs are concerned. This is a 90 ton assault 'mech and the legs and hips should look like they are able to that weight while under fire. Also, the legs should look like they can survive repeat Highlander Burials.
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #15 on: 21 April 2015, 08:50:25 »
I like Speck's ortho as far as the wider hips and thicker legs are concerned. This is a 90 ton assault 'mech and the legs and hips should look like they are able to that weight while under fire. Also, the legs should look like they can survive repeat Highlander Burials.

I wish I could take credit for orthos, but I can't draw for crap. It was IAMCLANWOLF who created them and does a awesome job at it.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #16 on: 21 April 2015, 10:02:04 »
Oddly enough, I like the idea of limbs that are  both reinforced and bulky, AND longer. The original disappointed me not because it was stocky, but because it went past stocky, all the way to dumpy. My ideal would be more along the lines of the HGN IIC, but just a *bit* bulkier in the limbs.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #17 on: 21 April 2015, 12:20:38 »
I kind of like the look of the orthos posted, but which artwork shows a Highlander with a full 20-tube LRM launcher? It looks cool, but more like the IIC (in that respect) than the Star League version.

I also agree that the gun shield "prongs" should extend beyond the gauss barrel.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #18 on: 21 April 2015, 16:33:21 »
I'm in for $50 on this one.
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #19 on: 21 April 2015, 17:24:46 »
I kind of like the look of the orthos posted, but which artwork shows a Highlander with a full 20-tube LRM launcher? It looks cool, but more like the IIC (in that respect) than the Star League version.

I'm counting 20 tubes in IAMCLANWOLF's orthos - left torso. ???
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #20 on: 21 April 2015, 18:25:44 »
I believe he is trying to point out that this is the first time we have seen artwork showing a 20 tube launcher.  Usually it is a 10 tube launcher that must fire rapidly like the Atlas LRM launcher.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #21 on: 21 April 2015, 22:21:37 »
Given the obsession with MechWarrior Online, I think those proportions (not the design specifics, but the proportions) would be most appropriate for any future sculpts. The idea is to sell, right? That version is more squat and widened; it's also got art that people are raving about, as opposed to critiquing. In the end, that's the set of proportions people would be most-happy with. That matches what's in the first post pretty well, I think.

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« Reply #22 on: 21 April 2015, 22:45:20 »
MWO art cannot be used for this endeavor. They're sticking to canon art only.
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« Reply #23 on: 21 April 2015, 23:04:13 »
Just to be clear, would this nre sculpt be replacing the old one entirely?  I happen to quite like the old one.
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« Reply #24 on: 21 April 2015, 23:26:15 »
No, not a replacer. There are many with more than one scuplt. I like worktrolls orthos better. This should be a bit taller. I have a IIc and it is still shorter than an atlas. Any shorter and it would be too stumpy. Which is one of the things that turn me off of the original sculpt. I think that the legs being bulky is fine. maybe thin the hips a bit. But the longer legs look right to me.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #25 on: 22 April 2015, 01:25:43 »
MWO art cannot be used for this endeavor. They're sticking to canon art only.

That's why I emphasized what I emphasized. :) I was talking about the proportions only: A thick, squat torso with over-emphasized, wide features. Just tends to make it stand out instead of looking round and bulbous.
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #26 on: 22 April 2015, 06:23:06 »
I believe he is trying to point out that this is the first time we have seen artwork showing a 20 tube launcher.  Usually it is a 10 tube launcher that must fire rapidly like the Atlas LRM launcher.

Quite so. There is some variance in canon art for the Highlander's torso, but it never seems to have a full 20-tube launcher visible.

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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #27 on: 22 April 2015, 06:56:31 »
I'll be honest: As long as the rest of the mini looks good, I don't much care how many LRM holes there are. 2, 5, 10, 20...any of those works for me. O0
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Re: Round 1 2015 Funding - Highlander HGN-732 Resculpt
« Reply #28 on: 22 April 2015, 09:38:44 »
To get people back on track, I count 4 backers for a grand total of $150. $650 more to go.

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« Reply #29 on: 22 April 2015, 10:43:15 »
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