Author Topic: The Free Worlds League: Winning with what we've got! (Read 162537 times)

truetanker · « **Reply #600 on:** 15 June 2017, 22:09:05 »

Look up Brooks and Maxwell both make Arty for Marik.

Brooks make Galleon-105
Maxwell makes the SLDF Thor clone, TAV-1

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Colt Ward · « **Reply #601 on:** 15 June 2017, 22:28:47 »

I know what gets made . . . but it does not cover what could be their doctrine from Age of War until 3145.

truetanker · « **Reply #602 on:** 15 June 2017, 22:49:18 »

Then I say the standard 2075 SLDF artillery doctrine would be safe.

Pound it, pound it again and if it still stands, pound it some more!

What do you want me to say? We have know Idea of what any House's artillery ability is used.

Davion's prefer Long Tom? Cappies want more Snipers? What about House Kurita, do they use everlasting Thumpers? The fact is we do not know!

Standard Artillery has always been limited to what can be transported to the front, ie: 2-3 Mapsheets away. Long Toms are severely slow, while Snipers and Thumpers provide faster responses, atho the Arrow system is becoming into its own light. Whereas BA Tube Arty is just now approaching it's usage as well.

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Wrangler · « **Reply #603 on:** 16 June 2017, 07:08:17 »

2075?!? They had time traveling SLDF divisions?!?!

Seriously, though i think alot of the SLDF stuff written in the SLDF Field Manual came from the ye olde Davion sources since their RCTs were based on the League stuff and the Eridani Light Horse.

I have to agree with truetanker, using the SLDF's doctine would be best way to go. The League regiment brigades were very diverse in their doctine.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #604 on:** 16 June 2017, 13:02:34 »

Alright . . . for example . . .

Capellan artillery seems to be used either offensively (mech & Regulator) or defensively (other vehicles, towed/static). In either case, they seem to use it to shape the battlefield- as indicated by T-Aug and other munitions they use. IIRC they do not have access to FASCAM rounds for A4, instead having LRMs for that sort of work . . . but they have inferno rounds which allows you to use fire to control the shape (thanks Sunny's namesake). They also seem to use Arrow IV more than the tube artillery such as Thumper, Sniper or Long Tom for their artillery. They also take advantage of a lot of guided rounds because they have a lot of TAG'ers.

I wonder if League Artillery uses 6 vehicle lances for 18 vehicle batteries due to their production of mobile guns being Thumpers. It would create a better pattern for the CFFs even if the damage is not as high as a battery of Snipers or Long Toms.

Weirdo · « **Reply #605 on:** 16 June 2017, 14:02:48 »

They only use six-unit lances for light vehicles. Towed guns are part of infantry and so use infantry organization, and most self-propelled guns are too heavy to be light vees. Maybe the Thumper Karnov.

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #606 on:** 16 June 2017, 14:11:46 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 16 June 2017, 07:08:17

2075?!? They had time traveling SLDF divisions?!?!

Seriously, though i think alot of the SLDF stuff written in the SLDF Field Manual came from the ye olde Davion sources since their RCTs were based on the League stuff and the Eridani Light Horse.

I have to agree with truetanker, using the SLDF's doctine would be best way to go. The League regiment brigades were very diverse in their doctine.

That's not true at all. Davion RCTs are very, very different from SLDF RCTs.

truetanker · « **Reply #607 on:** 16 June 2017, 14:22:09 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 16 June 2017, 14:02:48

They only use six-unit lances for light vehicles.

So then I can arm a total of 6 Galleon-105s? Sure they're late 3140's... but imagine the looks!

Woot!

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Colt Ward · « **Reply #608 on:** 16 June 2017, 14:40:31 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 16 June 2017, 14:02:48

They only use six-unit lances for light vehicles. Towed guns are part of infantry and so use infantry organization, and most self-propelled guns are too heavy to be light vees. Maybe the Thumper Karnov.

I know its for light vehicles in armor formations. SP Guns are not armor, even if they are armored. As their throw weight is so small, its why I suggest 6 gun lances- its 30 points of damage potential vs a standard Sniper lance of 40 let alone A4 & Long Tom's 80 points.

Weirdo · « **Reply #609 on:** 16 June 2017, 14:59:18 »

Unless you find some note that specifically calls for it, I'd assume 4-gun batteries. Throw weight doesn't factor into it.

Moonsword · « **Reply #610 on:** 16 June 2017, 18:59:21 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 16 June 2017, 14:40:31

I know its for light vehicles in armor formations. SP Guns are not armor, even if they are armored. As their throw weight is so small, its why I suggest 6 gun lances- its 30 points of damage potential vs a standard Sniper lance of 40 let alone A4 & Long Tom's 80 points.

That sounds like the BMR values. Thumpers do 15 points of damage to the center hex under Tactical Operations, not 5 points, and Snipers were bumped up to 20 and Long Toms to 25 at the same time.

Weirdo · « **Reply #611 on:** 16 June 2017, 20:07:24 »

Yeah, Thumpers are solid guns. :)

Colt Ward · « **Reply #612 on:** 16 June 2017, 20:32:17 »

Hm, too used to the old values that they come off the top of the head . . . I prefer Snipers for versatility of damage, number of rounds in a ton and their canon platforms. Just makes a heavy firing platoon 90 points between the 80 of Snipers & A4 and 100 of Long Toms.

Isokrates · « **Reply #613 on:** 20 June 2017, 06:20:45 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 16 June 2017, 14:02:48

They only use six-unit lances for light vehicles. Towed guns are part of infantry and so use infantry organization, and most self-propelled guns are too heavy to be light vees. Maybe the Thumper Karnov.

When it comes to artillery don´t go light. Hell, if you can´t nuke it from orbit go for the next best thing. Schiltron Lance with a total of 8 Arrow IV launchers and 4 Master C³Computers. Employ with TAG heavy formations.

Now if you do go light and want to exploit the 6 vehicle lance, then 6 Arrow IV yellow jacket will do the trick too.

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #614 on:** 22 June 2017, 00:04:18 »

Sometimes nonstandard factors come into play. For example, the lighter artillery may be cheaper; Or only so much weight can be carried; Or circumstances don't require every building in sight to be destroyed.

While I'm not exactly the biggest proponent of the Thumper, it's decent for mixed unit tactics. After all, why would you waste your time putting flare ammo in a Long Tom?

Weirdo · « **Reply #615 on:** 22 June 2017, 06:54:13 »

Quote from: Caedis Animus on 22 June 2017, 00:04:18

After all, why would you waste your time putting flare ammo in a Long Tom?

Weirdo · « **Reply #616 on:** 26 June 2017, 09:54:28 »

I'm currently in the midst of organizing my minis, and have reached a bit of a stumbling block on an Age of War 1st Atrean company. How would you finish this out?

Command Lance:
Mackie
Longbow
Longbow
Ostwar

Battle Lance:
Hector
Hector
Dervish
Icarus

Recon Lance:
???
Trooper
Trooper
Wasp

The Eagle · « **Reply #617 on:** 26 June 2017, 16:40:06 »

Salvaged Commando. Bring a little boom to the party.

Weirdo · « **Reply #618 on:** 26 June 2017, 18:36:44 »

...I rather like that. It can keep up with the others, and if they find something worth blowing up, it would act as the heavy weapons guy of the force. The whole group works well across many eras, and best of all, I really like the Commando as a mini. O0

truetanker · « **Reply #619 on:** 26 June 2017, 18:56:01 »

Whatcha set fer armor?

Runnin' da traditional 5 and 6 tank Squads?

Infantry support, and some Aero?

What's set for Transport in the ol' AoW?

Numbers man, we need numbers... O:-)

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Weirdo · « **Reply #620 on:** 26 June 2017, 19:26:21 »

You want numbers, I need sentences! :D

worktroll · « **Reply #621 on:** 26 June 2017, 20:49:42 »

Is the LL Commando - the 1A - available? MUL says 'Extinct', but I'd play it on my table.

Weirdo · « **Reply #622 on:** 26 June 2017, 22:23:36 »

Well this force is meant for the Age of War, so laser Commandos, Troopers, and bad-landing Wasps all around!

Sartris · « **Reply #623 on:** 13 July 2017, 09:19:52 »

Trooper, Wasp, and Commando are the only primitives produced before 2500 that move 5/8 or better. I'd say Commando for flavor. The Wasp 1A is produced at this point and would also be an option as well. If you're willing to drop speed, the Icarus is also around.

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #624 on:** 13 July 2017, 16:27:25 »

the troopers.. what are they equipped with? i know they are predecessors of the Flea but i'm way behind on TRO's and stuff

Sartris · « **Reply #625 on:** 13 July 2017, 16:30:21 »

2 SL, MG, Flamer. 6/9 speed, 32pts armor.

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #626 on:** 13 July 2017, 16:45:13 »

definitely would say large laser commando then.. it would give the unit at least a bit of option for shooting at longer range.

Weirdo · « **Reply #627 on:** 20 July 2017, 10:28:04 »

On the other end of the spectrum, I just finished working up a 400-point Regulan company for an Alpha Strike game this weekend:

Command Lance
Patriot-2C (Tactical Genius)
Marauder-9M2 (Combat Intuition)
Thunderbolt-10M (Eagle Eyes)
Apollo-1R

Hammer Lance (*2 Speed Demons or Jumping Jacks per turn)
Ostsol-8M
Buccaneer-3R
Hammer-3C
Firestarter-M2

Anvil Lance (*2 Sandblasters or Cluster Hitters per turn)
Moltke-M3 *4

Terrain is unknown, opposition's composition, tech, and era are unknown, just that the PV will be roughly the same and that the other guys can be trusted to stay within the bounds of Don't Be A Jerk.

Should be fun... :)

Colt Ward · « **Reply #628 on:** 20 July 2017, 10:48:58 »

Going with Blakist salvage? Wooo . . . wonder if you can exploit that. Pretty sure that would be solid under TW too, though of course Hammer has some mechs you would need to shelter in a battle of heavies.

Weirdo · « **Reply #629 on:** 20 July 2017, 10:59:14 »

The idea is that it the other guy focuses on the fast stuff, they go evasive while the heavies stand still for a moment and let off some truly punishing salvos. If they focus on the heavies, the fast guys take advantage of this to maneuver into position for some nice Kidney-shanking. >:D

I'm kinda hoping someone else brings some conventional stuff. I wanna see their faces when the Firestarter jumps up close and gives someone a 4-point wallop. :)