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(Answered) Bog Down & Displacement
« on: 23 May 2017, 22:40:08 »
Bog Down (p. 62, TO):
"Displacement:
Units that get stuck in a hex are still displaced under the Unit Displacement rules (see p. 151, TW)."

The discussion has been (locally) made that ANY and ALL units which "get stuck", are also "Displaced".
While the condition is dependent upon the action that would Displace the unit, it is not defined as such.
« Last Edit: 24 May 2017, 04:43:22 by Xotl »
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Re: Bog Down & Displacement
« Reply #1 on: 24 May 2017, 04:42:29 »
How would that even work?  Displacement is an event, not a general status.

The text just means that even if you are bogged down, you can still fall victim to displacement as per the normal displacement rules; i.e. being stuck doesn't render you immune to suffering from the effects of being pushed, a domino effect, etc (although the specific effect changes, as you auto-fall after moving).

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« Last Edit: 24 May 2017, 11:00:00 by Xotl »
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Re: (Answered) Bog Down & Displacement
« Reply #2 on: 24 May 2017, 10:40:47 »
Thanks, Xotl!

The dissenting opinion was such that because the wording did not include a qualifier, they understood it to be definitive: If a unit becomes stuck, it IS displaced; and since "Displaced" (TW pg151) does not describe that ONLY those cases/actions defined by that section can trigger a unit to be Displaced, the argument was that the description of "Units that get stuck are still displaced" (TO 62) was implied as being added to the TW "Displaced" rule.

By adding the condition of "IF" to "displaced", the rule changes from absolute, "Is displaced when stuck".
(this was a 90-minute debate of, "But that's what it means, if" vs "but that's not what it says".)
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Re: (Answered) Bog Down & Displacement
« Reply #3 on: 24 May 2017, 10:59:39 »
For those confused, you can tell them that they can replace "are still displaced" in the sentence you quote in your first post with "can still be displaced".

I mean, that's already what it says, albeit it in a mildly arcane fashion.  But if they want an alternate wording, there it is.  Just goes to show that one should use the plainest language possible for rules text.
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