Author Topic: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?  (Read 1360 times)

SCC

  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 6769
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #30 on: 18 October 2017, 04:28:14 »
Except for all of those numerous occasions where cluster shot is useful.
Infantry already have an integral cluster shot option in their normal weapon attack and the normal way to use cluster weapons is to precede them with weapons that do big groups in the hopes that they open up a location to crits, right?

Liam's Ghost

  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 4390
  • My own childish bit of defiance
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #31 on: 18 October 2017, 04:33:01 »
Infantry cluster attacks rarely reach as far as LBX cluster attacks.

Also, using them to find holes that other weapons opened is one way to use them, not the only way.
Good news is the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show an immediate latency of 44.6 years. So if you're thirty or over you're laughing. Worst case scenario you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you've forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.

(indirect accessory to the) Slayer of Monitors!

Weirdo

  • Painter of Borth the Magic Puma
  • Global Moderator
  • Lieutenant General
  • *
  • Posts: 28991
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #32 on: 18 October 2017, 09:24:47 »
What he said, every bit of it. There's plenty of situations where you want to use the cluster shot first, or by itself. Besides, smart infantry users already support them with ranged hole punchers.
"Thanks to Megamek, I can finally play BattleTech the way it was meant to be played--pantsless!"   -Neko Bijin
"It's just that the Hegemony had one answer to every naval problem. 'I kills it with my battleships.'" - Liam's Ghost
"...finally, giant space panties don't seem so strange." - Whistler
"The BT universe is startlingly deficient in both wisdom and hindsight." - Cray
"Damn you, Weirdo... Damn you for being right!" - Paul
Battleforce Space is too bulky. I vote we start calling it BattleFace.

TigerShark

  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 4474
    • MekWars: Dominion
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #33 on: 18 October 2017, 11:58:51 »
Infantry already have an integral cluster shot option in their normal weapon attack and the normal way to use cluster weapons is to precede them with weapons that do big groups in the hopes that they open up a location to crits, right?
As long as your opponent is within kicking distance, sure. What happens when they're 15 hexes out?
  W W W . M E K W A R S - D O M I N I O N . C O M

  "You will fight to the last soldier, and when you die, I will call upon your damned soul to speak horrible curses at the enemy."
     - Orders of Emperor Stefan Amaris to his troops

Kit deSummersville

  • Precentor of Lies
  • Freelance Writer
  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 8059
  • The epicness continues!
    • Insights and Complaints on Twitter
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #34 on: 18 October 2017, 12:04:38 »
As long as your opponent is within kicking distance, sure. What happens when they're 15 hexes out?

"Don't worry men, his large laser can only kill two of us at a time, as long as he stands still half of us can unleash hell on him when we get into range. Charge!"
Looking for an official answer? Check the Catalyst Interaction Forums.

Freelancer for hire, not an official CGL or IMR representative.

Everyone else's job is easy, so tell them how to do it, everyone loves that!

Colt Ward

  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 11188
  • Gott Mit Uns
    • Merc Periphery Guide- Bakunin
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #35 on: 18 October 2017, 18:20:41 »
Kit, when did Catalyst publish a Capellan Infantry Manual?
Colt Ward

Beware the vengeance of a patient man.

SCC

  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 6769
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #36 on: 19 October 2017, 05:35:26 »
As long as your opponent is within kicking distance, sure. What happens when they're 15 hexes out?
That's well beyond most anti-infantry weapon range so that's a plus, think of the old bubble of doom of Demolisher's. And while it requires mixed tech it is possible to have a platoon's basic attack to reach out to 15 hexes and beyond.

At 15 hexes the PAC/2 is probably better then the LB2-X, 5 two-point pallets (Remember special ammo) has an edge over 8 one-pointers.

And PAC's can actually breach the 20-point barrier and while LB-X's can it requires rolling max cluster hits.

Kit deSummersville

  • Precentor of Lies
  • Freelance Writer
  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • *
  • Posts: 8059
  • The epicness continues!
    • Insights and Complaints on Twitter
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #37 on: 19 October 2017, 09:01:12 »
Kit, when did Catalyst publish a Capellan Infantry Manual?

Well, in typical Capellan fashion it wasn't published but rather scrawled on the backs of rejected proposals.
Looking for an official answer? Check the Catalyst Interaction Forums.

Freelancer for hire, not an official CGL or IMR representative.

Everyone else's job is easy, so tell them how to do it, everyone loves that!

Fat Guy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 1847
  • I make beer disappear. What's your superpower?
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #38 on: 26 October 2017, 22:21:11 »
Like the Capellans need an infantry manual. All they need to know is "Take your bolt action rifle (if it isn't a thousand years old, the design certainly is!) and charge the enemy, until only he or you remain."   >:D
"That's too much bacon."  - Said no one EVER!


YingJanshi

  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 3924
  • Origin/Steam/UPlay ID - IonsRevenant
Re: Protomech Autocannons: mostly worthless or completely useless?
« Reply #39 on: 27 October 2017, 01:21:19 »
Like the Capellans need an infantry manual. All they need to know is "Take your bolt action rifle (if it isn't a thousand years old, the design certainly is!) and charge the enemy, until only he or you remain."   >:D

Come now, everyone knows we Capellans only use the finest matchlocks. :D

Initiate of the Order of Valhalla

"You will experience a tingling sensation and then death."
Quote
"...oh gods, I just tried to imagine herding mimetic cats." - Weirdo

 

Register