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Andras

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50t Manti-Goblin
« on: 22 October 2017, 15:37:56 »
50t cross between a Manticore and a Goblin. PPC, LRMs, SRMs, MGs and a squad of infantry in the back.

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Manti-Gob Light Tank
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 894
Cost: 2,016,250 C-bills

Movement: 4/6 (Tracked)
Engine: 200

Internal: 10
Armor: 170 (Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       2       40
Right                       2       35
Left                        2       35
Rear                        2       25
Turret                      2       35

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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PPC                             TU    10
SRM 6                           FR     4
Machine Gun                     TU     0
LRM 5                           FR     2
LRM 5                           FR     2
Machine Gun                     FR     0

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100
SRM 6 Ammo                      BD    15
LRM 5 Ammo                      BD    24

Troops - 1.5 tons


Troop space is actually enough to squeeze in two foot squads or a motorized or jump squad.

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Re: 50t Manti-Goblin
« Reply #1 on: 22 October 2017, 15:46:58 »
Great idea for the price, though I'm not quite getting it to add up in SAW.  I think standard armor might work a bit better too.  The 10 points of armor aren't really worth the expense (both initial and ongoing).

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Re: 50t Manti-Goblin
« Reply #2 on: 22 October 2017, 17:00:33 »
It's 18 points of armor gone w/o FF though.

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MantiGob Light Tank Tank
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 869
Cost: 1,873,750 C-bills

Movement: 4/6 (Tracked)
Engine: 200

Internal: 25
Armor: 152
                     Internal    Armor
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Front                       5       38
Right                       5       30
Left                        5       30
Rear                        5       24
Turret                      5       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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SRM 6                           FR     4
LRM 5                           FR     2
LRM 5                           FR     2
Machine Gun                     FR     0
PPC                             TU    10
Machine Gun                     TU     0

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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Half Machine Gun Ammo           BD   100
SRM 6 Ammo                      BD    15
LRM 5 Ammo                      BD    24

Troops - 1.5 tons

This is what I get with SAW, right on 50t
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MantiGob Light Tank MG-50

Mass: 50 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-E-D-A
Production Year: 3030
Cost: 1,787,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 869

Power Plant:  200 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  PPC
    1  SRM-6
    2  LRM-5s
    2  Machine Guns
    1  Infantry Compartment (1.5 tons)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      25 points                5.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                200                      13.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 152                  9.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     38       
                                          Left/Right   30/30       
                                              Turret     30       
                                                Rear     24       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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2 LRM-5s                                     FR        4         2         4.00
SRM-6                                        FR        4         1         3.00
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
PPC                                          T         10        1         7.00
Infantry Compartment (1.5 tons)              BD        0         1         1.50
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-6 (15)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 9
4t         3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: TUR(1/1/1), IF 1

« Last Edit: 22 October 2017, 17:03:55 by Andras »

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Re: 50t Manti-Goblin
« Reply #3 on: 22 October 2017, 17:37:13 »
Ah, I misread some of the locations and thought you had more in the turret (thinking more Goblin than Manticore).  Even at an 18 point armor loss, I still think the cheaper price makes it worthwhile.  Also, using Fractional Accounting could get you 8 points of armor back (from the engine and turret).

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Re: 50t Manti-Goblin
« Reply #4 on: 23 October 2017, 09:23:49 »
some quick thoughts.

1.  Why isn't the SRM-6 in the turret?  This is your major anti-facehugging firepower.

2. The MGs seem redundant.  For the weight, just get a ton of ammo for the SRM-6 that does anti-personnel as you get better range.

3.  The LRMs are well sited.  What is the concept of the vehicle? 
Saying that because the equipment isn't up-to-the-minute, bleeding-edge tech therefore not a threat is like saying an M2 Browning isn't dangerous to modern infantry because it is 100 years old.

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Re: 50t Manti-Goblin
« Reply #5 on: 23 October 2017, 17:59:25 »
some quick thoughts.

1.  Why isn't the SRM-6 in the turret?  This is your major anti-facehugging firepower.

2. The MGs seem redundant.  For the weight, just get a ton of ammo for the SRM-6 that does anti-personnel as you get better range.

3.  The LRMs are well sited.  What is the concept of the vehicle?

I didn't have the extra half ton for the turret if I put the SRMs in there. It's also to give a short range weapon to complement the LRM battery.

The anti-personnel ammo option is not bad, and that might get me the extra weight for the turret. Actually it was enough to get the LRMs in there too, now I can use them while hull down (which was my main concern about them being hull mounted) Thanks!

And the main concept was a 50t Manticore with a squad of infantry in the back, shake it up, and see what falls out.

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MantiGob Light Tank
IS TW non-box set
50 tons 
BV: 865
Cost: 1,942,750 C-bills

Movement: 4/6 (Tracked)
Engine: 200

Internal: 25
Armor: 152
                     Internal    Armor
--------------------------------------
Front                       5       38
Right                       5       30
Left                        5       30
Rear                        5       24
Turret                      5       30

Weapon                         Loc  Heat
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SRM 6                           TU     4
LRM 5                           TU     2
LRM 5                           TU     2
PPC                             TU    10

Ammo                           Loc Shots
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LRM 5 Ammo                      BD    24
SRM 6 Ammo                      BD    15
SRM 6 Fragmentation Ammo        BD    15

Troops - 1.5 tons

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Re: 50t Manti-Goblin
« Reply #6 on: 23 October 2017, 18:01:10 »
And under 2M to boot, nice work!