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Sabelkatten

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Challenge: Small lasers!
« on: 20 February 2018, 09:30:23 »
After reading the thread in the ground combat section. Make the best mech possible using as many standard small lasers as possible!

Judging will be by efficiency in the standard boardgame, and introtech designs will be judged separately from advanced tech.

EDIT: This was badly written. I didn't mean you have to use only small lasers, just that small lasers should be as large as possible fraction of the payload!
« Last Edit: 21 February 2018, 03:39:32 by Sabelkatten »

AldanFerrox

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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #1 on: 20 February 2018, 09:57:12 »
How about a medium brawler with TSM mainly made for Solaris Arenas. It uses the excess heat effectively so that you can get into the rear arc of enemy mechs to smash them with a hail of laser fire, punchs and kicks. It keeps a standard engine, cockpit and gyro to increase survivability and to keep cost down.

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Hellraiser HEL-R01
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level          Era
-------------------
Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3145+
Tech Rating: E/X-X-E-D

Weight: 40 tons
BV: 948
Cost: 4,253,643 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 280
Heat Sinks: 10
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 67 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 110/137 (Light Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               12     15   
Center Torso (rear)                4   
Right Torso                10     14   
Right Torso (rear)                 3   
Left Torso                 10     14   
Left Torso (rear)                  3   
Right Arm                   6     10   
Left Arm                    6     10   
Right Leg                  10     14   
Left Leg                   10     14   

Weapons      Loc  Heat 
------------------------
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   HD    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   LT    1   
Small Laser   RT    1   

Equipment               Loc 
-----------------------------
Triple Strength Myomer   RL 
Triple Strength Myomer   LL 
Triple Strength Myomer   RA 
Triple Strength Myomer   RL 
Triple Strength Myomer   LA 
Triple Strength Myomer   LL 

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Giovanni Blasini

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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #2 on: 20 February 2018, 15:29:10 »
Only eight small lasers, but a refit of the JR7-F to small lasers (still Introtech) seemed like a solid idea for a conversion:

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Jenner JR7-W
Base Tech Level: Introductory (IS)
Level          Era
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Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      2784+
Tech Rating: D/C-E-D-X

Weight: 35 tons
BV: 769
Cost: 3,026,925 C-bills
Source: TRO 3039 - Succession Wars

Movement: 7/11/5
Engine: 245
Heat Sinks: 10
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 58
Armor: 112/119
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      7   
Center Torso               11     15   
Center Torso (rear)                6   
Right Torso                 8     11   
Right Torso (rear)                 5   
Left Torso                  8     11   
Left Torso (rear)                  5   
Right Arm                   6     11   
Left Arm                    6     11   
Right Leg                   8     15   
Left Leg                    8     15   

Weapons      Loc  Heat 
------------------------
Small Laser   LA    1   
Small Laser   LA    1   
Small Laser   LA    1   
Small Laser   RA    1   
Small Laser   RA    1   
Small Laser   RA    1   
Small Laser   RA    1   
Small Laser   LA    1   




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No Torso Twist
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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #3 on: 20 February 2018, 17:19:39 »
I had Cicadas on the brain when I saw this challenge. 66 damage without heat gain isn't anything to complain about, but it's not the most interesting mech to play:
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Cicada CDA-3SL

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3075
Cost: 7,756,467 C-Bills
Battle Value: 933

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 320 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    22  Small Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    67 points                2.00
    Internal Locations: 7 LA, 7 RA
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             320                      11.50
    Walking MP: 8
    Running MP: 12
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               4.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Light Ferro-Fibrous          AV - 110                  6.50
    Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     12           17       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  6         
                                           L/R Torso     10           14       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  3         
                                             L/R Arm     6            8         
                                             L/R Leg     10           14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Small Lasers                               CT        2         2         1.00
9 Small Lasers                               RT        9         9         4.50
9 Small Lasers                               LT        9         9         4.50
Small Laser                                  RL        1         1         0.50
Small Laser                                  LL        1         1         0.50
                                            Free Critical Slots: 2

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 9
8          7       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #4 on: 20 February 2018, 19:31:50 »
If SSW could do LAMs, I'd treat you to the 30 Small Laser LAM I used in an "unlimited" tournament once.  It was glorious.

Giovanni Blasini

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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #5 on: 20 February 2018, 23:06:27 »
MegaMekLab supports LAMs.
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Sabelkatten

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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #6 on: 21 February 2018, 03:34:34 »
If SSW could do LAMs, I'd treat you to the 30 Small Laser LAM I used in an "unlimited" tournament once.  It was glorious.
Original LAM rules, I presume? ;)

"Broken" was just the start with those rules! :))

I like that Jenner. Fast and tough enough to get into range (against 3025 opponents at least).

The Cicada feels rather too fragile with the XL engine... 8/12 is pretty fast, but everything in the field's going to shoot at you! :o

The Hellraiser... Dropping a couple of the small lasers for more armor and a few ERMLs would probably be a very good idea. Just to be clear, the challenge isn't about using ONLY small lasers, it's about using small lasers effectively.

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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #7 on: 21 February 2018, 04:24:30 »
Yes, the original LAM rules... I didn't use an XL engine so I could fit more lasers in...  >:D

AldanFerrox

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Re: Challenge: Small lasers!
« Reply #8 on: 21 February 2018, 06:50:06 »
Original LAM rules, I presume? ;)
The Hellraiser... Dropping a couple of the small lasers for more armor and a few ERMLs would probably be a very good idea. Just to be clear, the challenge isn't about using ONLY small lasers, it's about using small lasers effectively.

Oh, it is really effective in 1 on 1 matches against heavier (~50 ton) opponents. But you are right, it needs some more armor and longer ranged weapons to suceed on a real battlefield, so I made the R02 variant.

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Hellraiser HEL-R02
Base Tech Level: Standard (IS)
Level          Era
-------------------
Experimental    - 
Advanced        - 
Standard      3145+
Tech Rating: E/X-X-E-D

Weight: 40 tons
BV: 1,325
Cost: 4,643,893 C-bills

Movement: 7/11
Engine: 280
Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 67 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 135/137 (Light Ferro-Fibrous)
                     Internal  Armor   
----------------------------------------
Head                        3      9   
Center Torso               12     20   
Center Torso (rear)                4   
Right Torso                10     15   
Right Torso (rear)                 4   
Left Torso                 10     15   
Left Torso (rear)                  4   
Right Arm                   6     12   
Left Arm                    6     12   
Right Leg                  10     20   
Left Leg                   10     20   

Weapons          Loc  Heat 
----------------------------
Small Laser       LT    1   
Small Laser       LT    1   
Small Laser       LT    1   
Small Laser       LT    1   
Small Laser       RT    1   
Small Laser       RT    1   
Small Laser       RT    1   
Small Laser       RT    1   
ER Medium Laser   LT    5   
ER Medium Laser   RT    5   
ER Medium Laser   LT    5   
ER Medium Laser   RT    5   

Equipment               Loc 
-----------------------------
Triple Strength Myomer   RA 
Triple Strength Myomer   LA 
Triple Strength Myomer   RL 
Triple Strength Myomer   RL 
Triple Strength Myomer   LL 
Triple Strength Myomer   LL 
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