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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #60 on: 25 October 2013, 08:45:11 »
I'd keep them on that one, otherwise you might as well just sell the damned thing and buy a Thug.

(Not that I'd be opposed to doing that anyway, I've long been a Thug fan)

If anything, twin-snubbies and IJJs might be fun too- leap over terrain to get into short range and let the cannons fly, leap back out if things get hairy.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #61 on: 11 October 2017, 11:32:24 »
Sort of surprised we never got a dual HPPC Katana during the Jihad since the Dracs were throwing them on everything.  They did start producing their own rather than just the ComStar handoffs?

How often does the Crockett appear in Clan secondline forces?  I know we talk about things like the Imp, Black Knight, Thunderhawk and Devastator for Clan secondline, but a Crockett would work pretty well.

I had the same thought this seems like mech that the blood spirits would like

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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #62 on: 11 October 2017, 11:58:50 »
I had the same thought this seems like mech that the blood spirits would like

For the same weight and movement profile they're probably happy enough with the Blood Kite.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #63 on: 11 October 2017, 17:40:34 »
Its movement and actuator parts let it fit into units that field the Blood Kite.  With it having a LB-10X, it also gives AA and anti-armor support to Blood Kites.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #64 on: 11 October 2017, 17:45:18 »
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #65 on: 11 October 2017, 18:40:48 »
Its movement and actuator parts let it fit into units that field the Blood Kite.  With it having a LB-10X, it also gives AA and anti-armor support to Blood Kites.
The Blood Kite could suitably do the Anti-Armor role already; Triple LRM-15s and SRM-4s should provide enough hits to cause a motive crit. AA, however, is a role that the Blood Spirits might find better suited for the Predator, despite the Predator's higher price tag.

Keep the Blood Kites moving at 5 for a run, and the Predator at 5 for a walk; The Predator's higher speed also allows it to go to positions where the twin LB10X ACs it mounts can tear apart aircraft or vehicle threats as they come. Alternatively, the Predator 2 mounts twin HAGR-20s, for some high-dakka AA power.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #66 on: 11 October 2017, 21:00:43 »
Predator is a new mech, not likely one they had a lot of or able to get in.  The Crockett was a old SLDF left over which means they did not have to go to outside sources.  As also stated, the Crockett also used same supply chain . . . standard armor, 255 SFE, same size Gyro, same size Jump Jets, same series/sizes of actuators and could/should have the main weapons be interchangeable- the Large Lasers.  Its never addressed but I would doubt the Clans still churn out SL spec weapons . . . if the ERLL on a Crocket is damaged & unable to be repaired and no other stockpile of ERLL/LL (SL or early Clan) are available I imagine they plug in a Clan ERLL.  Sure the design would be 'underweight' by our eyes but pretty sure it would not matter to them- in fact it would probably be preferable to have the matching ranges.

Pred has less armor, does not jump and uses a XL.  I would imagine those they have would go to frontline cavalry or striker stars with their limited Summoners, Timberwolves and Stooping Hawks rather than a secondline garrison units.  The Pred DOES have twice the ranged crit-seeking ability compared to the Crockett until it gets under 9 hexes.

LRMs and HAGs still cluster at 5 which for the BK means at best 3 crit chances per launcher or for the Pred 2 8 chances though longer ranged than the LBX.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #67 on: 11 October 2017, 21:58:49 »
Well, as a Mandrill mech I expect the Predator was more common than other new foreign designs. But I agree it was likely far from common, and given their use of SL mechs possibly not more common than the Crockett. I also agree I too would sooner pair my Kite with a Crockett (C) and use my Predators to back up other 5/8 mechs (though the Kite is common even in front line units, so theycouod still fight side by side)
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #68 on: 11 October 2017, 22:38:27 »
Alternatively, you could go for a point of LBX or HAGR toting vehicles, which would be even cheaper than bringing a mech along, albeit not preferred. But as far as cheap mech options go, I guess the Crockett would be a better choice.

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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #69 on: 13 October 2017, 14:19:33 »
Chameleons, Phoenix hawks,  and maybe something faction specific if you wanted to do that?

Given that I own two Crockett minis, I really should find a good use for them. Perhaps a reinforced cadre lance consisting of four recently-graduated cadets that still need in-the-field seasoning, with a fifth 'mech for the veteran instructor that has to ride herd on them. 2 Crockets and 2 TBA mediums(P-Hawks, Crabs, Starslayers?) for the cadets, and some sort of mobile heavy for the instructor. Sound fun?

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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #70 on: 16 October 2017, 07:18:10 »
Just found this thread, sorry.

I've a soft spot for the Crockett.  My partner Donna fell in love with it, and other heavies/assaults.  I swear she was a Steiner at heart.  The beast could take a lot of pounding, and keep fighting.  Her biggest enemy was gravity.  One fight we had a city on the map, at long range, she gets up on a level 2 building, long range, and tags me with one of the ER larges with a lucky roll.  I look at the numbers my Highlander needs (we'd both jumped) and sigh.

Then remember the building only has a CF of 100.  One Gauss and LRM 20 flight later...  She was not amused.

My friend Parker painted up a Crockett for her in Steiner Blue for her birthday.  Complete with a little chihuahua head on the leg for her dog Rocky. 

I lost her to a stroke 7 years ago, but still have 'Bindi', her name for the mech.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #71 on: 14 September 2020, 12:24:44 »
A question about availability for the base and royal variants of the Crockett. Why is it that the Royal variant vanishes after OP: Klondike but the base version lives on in the Clan armories? Is it simply lack of numbers? Did all the Royals get destroyed during that conflict while the regular variant sat out the fight in caches? Or has the MUL simply not been updated?

I ask because i'm helping my son build his first clan star(Goliath Scorpions) and he wants to field some of the older SL designs. GS has the 5003-1 available but not the 1b.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #72 on: 14 September 2020, 12:31:02 »
i suspect the better hardware was pillaged from the cache's first, both by the pentagon wars factions, and then later by the clans after they took over. the non-royal designs were probably more common (as there were far more non-royal units than royal ones in the SLDF) as well as being much less in demand over all since they were usually much less capable than the royal models. so they'd last longer in the cache's.

but at the same time, i suspect that the MUL is a little behind and doesn't include any Golden Century updates yet. 

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« Reply #73 on: 14 September 2020, 12:57:40 »
Did all the Royals get destroyed during that conflict while the regular variant sat out the fight in caches? Or has the MUL simply not been updated?

Pretty much. The Royals were good enough that the Clans kept using them, so they died out in battle. The Regular stuff either spent more time in caches, or didn't fight as much because when bidding, Clan commanders would be more likely to bid the good stuff into a fight, so even Regular units that were in active service didn't see as much action as Royal ones.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #74 on: 14 September 2020, 19:50:23 »
I appreciate the responses gentlemen. Its interesting to see which Royals make it through that era in Clan hands and which don't. It seems hit or miss sometimes. Workhorse mechs like Phoenix Hawks, which are numerous but so commonly used you'd think they'd get used up, make it through just fine while things like Crocketts don't. Ah well.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #75 on: 15 September 2020, 13:11:22 »
Side note:  new Crockett art from the kickstarter is pretty dang cool.

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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #76 on: 28 September 2020, 13:57:50 »
If there is any mech I want a new version of in the IlClan guides, it's the Crockett.  They pair up so nicely with Victor, Emperors, and Highlanders. A Clan version would be awesome as well.

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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #77 on: 28 September 2020, 14:19:20 »
If there is any mech I want a new version of in the IlClan guides, it's the Crockett.

It'll probably be a new Katana, but that works for me too.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #78 on: 21 January 2021, 03:00:08 »
I have Crockets in my Blood Spirit force. It's fun using old SL trainers to beat up Adder omnis...

 If they would be anywhere in a clan force it would be there.

A great idea! I was surprised that a Crockett C was not in TRO golden century

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« Reply #79 on: 21 January 2021, 10:01:35 »
A great idea! I was surprised that a Crockett C was not in TRO golden century

IMO would have been a better candidate as a EC leading the way to the Blood Kite.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #80 on: 03 February 2021, 03:08:31 »
Pretty much. The Royals were good enough that the Clans kept using them, so they died out in battle. The Regular stuff either spent more time in caches, or didn't fight as much because when bidding, Clan commanders would be more likely to bid the good stuff into a fight, so even Regular units that were in active service didn't see as much action as Royal ones.

And as the Regular designs weren't as powerful as the Royals, they probably also attracted less negative attention when they did show up on the battlefield.
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« Reply #81 on: 03 February 2021, 11:31:14 »
Indeed. Simply being known as a Royal machine means there would be more honor and prestige(read: bragging rights) in defeating that mech than one associated with the Regular SLDF, therefore the Royal machines would draw more fire and therefore die out sooner.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #82 on: 02 February 2022, 00:09:05 »
Where can I find the record sheet for the downgraded version CRK-5003-0

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« Reply #83 on: 02 February 2022, 00:36:37 »
Does not appear that there is one at this time.
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« Reply #84 on: 02 February 2022, 07:16:13 »
You can print one with MegaMekLab or Solaris Skunk Werks.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #85 on: 04 February 2022, 01:36:22 »
Where can I find the record sheet for the downgraded version CRK-5003-0

There is one, but its sort of out of reach except for SSW/MM at this time. It was released in something called "Record Sheets 3039" where the record sheets were made using the Heavy Metal Pro series of products and it was about 300 pages long. There was a late publication with a similar name that was only 88 pages long that was missing the Crockett.

Likewise the later 3039 Unabridged didn't have it, probably because 3039 didn't actually have the Crockett in it, and the 3050U ones did have the Crockett, but not the SW variant. And it also seems to have missed from the random and confusing  "Succession Wars" Record sheets.

So. There is a technically canon record sheet for it, if you can find the book it was published in (I've got it saved as BC206). It just hasn't been reprinted and easy to miss.

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« Reply #86 on: 04 February 2022, 18:54:09 »
Oddly enough, that PDF is also the only one with record sheets for the Sea Skimmer, Monitor, or Neptune. As far as currently available products are concerned, these original models don't exist.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #87 on: 11 March 2022, 22:18:25 »
That royal version is evil, evil i tell ya!  *bad experiences...*

I have always liked this Mech and I love the new plastic mini! As a weirdo clan player who enjoys fielding old tech designs I am torn on where to place this guy. I am
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« Reply #88 on: 11 March 2022, 23:14:24 »
Either of those, or maybe the Scorpions?
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Re: ’Mech of the Week: CRK-500*-* Crockett
« Reply #89 on: 15 March 2022, 21:53:55 »
Frankly any Clan force could field one. 

 

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