Author Topic: New Classics Status? (Read 10252 times)

Louie N · « **on:** 23 February 2017, 11:34:09 »

Hello,

I promise to ask this question only once this year. Where may I find information on the new Classics Mech releases.

I am most interested in Marauder, Warhammer, and Locust.

Is there any expected artwork for the Crusader and Valkyrie.

Thank you

Juodas Varnas · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 February 2017, 12:26:03 »

Valkyrie's artwork has been floating around for quite some time now.

I'm more interested in Goliath and Scorpion "classic" redesigns, hopefully they'll show up sooner rather than later.

Tai Dai Cultist · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 February 2017, 12:32:24 »

Quote from: Louie N on 23 February 2017, 11:34:09

Hello,

I promise to ask this question only once this year. Where may I find information on the new Classics Mech releases.

I am most interested in Marauder, Warhammer, and Locust.

Is there any expected artwork for the Crusader and Valkyrie.

Thank you

The Alpha Strike combat manuals have mini-TROs where a few of the "new" mechs are re-released. I forget which is in Kurita and Mercs, but each has a few. the covers of the new rulebooks have some more that aren't in the CMs yet. the BattleMaster, Griffin, Thunderbolt, and iirc a few more have been published in artwork.

Louie N · « **Reply #3 on:** 23 February 2017, 16:01:50 »

Thank you for the artwork.

Any word on the Miniatures?

I have the Shadow Hawk, waiting on the Ostscout when there is another release in the IWM store.

Cazaril · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 February 2017, 16:10:45 »

According to IWM's release schedule;

The WSP-1A Wasp should be released in the 1st Qtr of 2017

They have FLE-14 Flea and VLK-QA Valkyrie listed for release in the 2nd Qtr of 2017

Caz

Pat Payne · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 February 2017, 18:46:51 »

Quote from: Cazaril on 23 February 2017, 16:10:45

They have FLE-14 Flea and VLK-QA Valkyrie listed for release in the 2nd Qtr of 2017

Caz

Are they redoing the Flea as part of the Classics redesigns? I didn't think there were any rights issues with that particular 'mech...

YingJanshi · « **Reply #6 on:** 23 February 2017, 19:54:22 »

Quote from: Pat Payne on 23 February 2017, 18:46:51

Are they redoing the Flea as part of the Classics redesigns? I didn't think there were any rights issues with that particular 'mech...

Might just feel it needs a resculpt. I believe they've slowly been doing that with some of the older minis.

worktroll · « **Reply #7 on:** 23 February 2017, 19:59:18 »

Sure I saw the primitive flea artwork somewhere ... XTRO Succession Wars, vol 1!

Riffs nicely off the MW4 art, if I say so myself:

I've got a few old "AT-ST" Fleas, they'll enjoy the company.

Hayden. · « **Reply #8 on:** 23 February 2017, 20:33:51 »

Quote from: worktroll on 23 February 2017, 19:59:18

Sure I saw the primitive flea artwork somewhere ... XTRO Succession Wars, vol 1!

Looks like a real trooper! O0 (See what I did there?)

worktroll · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 February 2017, 20:59:19 »

Heh. A pune, or play on words, correct?

Consider yourself castigated. With a blunt spoon ;)

W.

Hayden. · « **Reply #10 on:** 24 February 2017, 01:36:35 »

Quote from: worktroll on 23 February 2017, 20:59:19

Heh. A pune, or play on words, correct?

Consider yourself castigated. With a blunt spoon ;)

W.

In the fiction (TRO 3039 entry for the Flea, namely), the Flea's original moniker was "Trooper" (later dropped in favor of the more accurate term). What I was getting at was that this illustration feels a bit closer to a "Trooper" than does the usual "Flea" ;D

Louie N · « **Reply #11 on:** 24 February 2017, 11:18:28 »

Thank you

Lastly any specifics on the Warhammer, Marauder, and Locust Miniatures. Those were some of the first casts we saw.

cavingjan · « **Reply #12 on:** 24 February 2017, 13:42:43 »

Being held for CGL to release first.

Alex Keller · « **Reply #13 on:** 25 February 2017, 14:48:02 »

IWM confirmed they are releasing a new classic miniature each quarter. We don't know what comes after Q2.

Acolyte · « **Reply #14 on:** 26 February 2017, 01:07:03 »

Quote from: worktroll on 23 February 2017, 20:59:19

Consider yourself castigated. With a blunt spoon ;)

:o Ouch!

- Shane

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #15 on:** 26 February 2017, 03:43:26 »

I haven't been able to even find out what the weight class will be either and I spent a week or so pestering Speck about it before he fled the forums screaming making the excuse it was to move into a new house :crazy2:

worktroll · « **Reply #16 on:** 26 February 2017, 16:31:47 »

Quote from: Acolyte on 26 February 2017, 01:07:03

:o Ouch!

- Shane

When my sons were small, one day I got fed up with their arguing, and thundered at them "If you don't be quiet, I'm going to castigate you, and cut off your perogatives!"

This was good for about 30 minutes stunned silence O0

JPArbiter · « **Reply #17 on:** 02 March 2017, 22:25:54 »

at this point the next batch of NuSeen Art is going to come from either CM Davion or 2nd Succession War, whichever comes first.

the Thunderbolt line art was shown in Spotlight: Crescent Hawks on an Alpha Strike Card, but it is teeny tiny.

nckestrel · « **Reply #18 on:** 02 March 2017, 23:06:06 »

2SW will be before CM Davion.

Juodas Varnas · « **Reply #19 on:** 03 March 2017, 00:50:29 »

Quote from: JPArbiter on 02 March 2017, 22:25:54

at this point the next batch of NuSeen Art is going to come from either CM Davion or 2nd Succession War, whichever comes first.

the Thunderbolt line art was shown in Spotlight: Crescent Hawks on an Alpha Strike Card, but it is teeny tiny.

Aye, the picture's been floating around as well.
I, honestly, don't really understand why all the artworks are so... Spread apart into different books.

Still hoping that the Scorpion and Goliath get the same "Classics" treatment.

klarg1 · « **Reply #20 on:** 03 March 2017, 12:11:14 »

Quote from: Cazaril on 23 February 2017, 16:10:45

According to IWM's release schedule;

The WSP-1A Wasp should be released in the 1st Qtr of 2017

They have FLE-14 Flea and VLK-QA Valkyrie listed for release in the 2nd Qtr of 2017

Caz

I completely missed the Q2 part. That is exciting news.

Gonna get me some brand new valks to paint. O0

Domi1981 · « **Reply #21 on:** 03 March 2017, 13:21:07 »

Quote from: Juodas Varnas on 03 March 2017, 00:50:29

Aye, the picture's been floating around as well.
I, honestly, don't really understand why all the artworks are so... Spread apart into different books.

Still hoping that the Scorpion and Goliath get the same "Classics" treatment.

Whoever the artist of the redone Unseens is, I´m your biggest fan :D

Pat Payne · « **Reply #22 on:** 03 March 2017, 14:31:34 »

Quote from: Domi1981 on 03 March 2017, 13:21:07

Whoever the artist of the redone Unseens is, I´m your biggest fan :D

IIRC, it's ShimmeringSword's work, right?

Juodas Varnas · « **Reply #23 on:** 03 March 2017, 14:59:45 »

Quote from: Pat Payne on 03 March 2017, 14:31:34

IIRC, it's ShimmeringSword's work, right?

Aye.
It's Anthony Scroggins's (AKA Shimmering Sword) artwork.

I absolutely adore most of his Classics redesigns. His Marauder is easily the best Marauder design i've ever seen.
The only one i'm kind of... iffy about, is the Wolverine. I just prefer the medium laser being centered in front of the cockpit and not off to the side.

The_Livewire · « **Reply #24 on:** 03 March 2017, 15:06:39 »

Quote from: Juodas Varnas on 03 March 2017, 14:59:45

Aye.
It's Anthony Scroggins's (AKA Shimmering Sword) artwork.

I absolutely adore most of his Classics redesigns. His Marauder is easily the best Marauder design i've ever seen.
The only one i'm kind of... iffy about, is the Wolverine. I just prefer the medium laser being centered in front of the cockpit and not off to the side.

So far no misses all hits for me. Though I was kind of hoping the Classic Wolverine would look like the 7H, but I'll live. :-)

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #25 on:** 03 March 2017, 15:10:56 »

This from a week ago

Quote from: Speck

1st Quarter 2017 release is still a week or two off. One of the mechs was a little behind and is holding up the release.

Liam's Ghost · « **Reply #26 on:** 03 March 2017, 15:14:17 »

I'm gonna have to get a bunch of those ultralight Fleas.

I don't even care that they're supposed to be rare in universe. I need a swarm.

Juodas Varnas · « **Reply #27 on:** 03 March 2017, 15:48:29 »

Quote from: The_Livewire on 03 March 2017, 15:06:39

So far no misses all hits for me. Though I was kind of hoping the Classic Wolverine would look like the 7H, but I'll live. :-)

Oh don't get me wrong, the 'Classic' Wolverine looks great, it's a very good looking design, but i just really, REALLY wish Shimmy found some way to incorporate the round head-turret into the design, because it's basically the most distinguishable/iconic part of its design.
Considering how the mech's original description in 3025 TRO mentions how the "ball turret originally providing a 360° field of fire on early models of the Wolverine" and had to be restricted via some electronics in order to prevent it from being able to shoot itself (which is a really interesting and charming piece of lore fluff), having the laser mounted off to the side and obviously being a static placement with no such articulation is kind of a bummer to me.
It still looks good though.

Cazaril · « **Reply #28 on:** 03 March 2017, 16:33:24 »

Quote from: Liam's Ghost on 03 March 2017, 15:14:17

I don't even care that they're supposed to be rare in universe.

Nice part about defining your own alternate timeline is that you don't have to follow the official version... In my universe, Earthwerks FWL has been churning out Fleas since they captured Asuncion and Bernardo somewhere in the 29th century. These are the only two facilities that build the Flea, so they are mainly seen in Marik space, filling the position in lances normally reserved for the Locust (The FWL does not build the Locust). Even though Asuncion has seesawed between Marik and Liao, attrition has reduced the Capellan Confederation's supply of Fleas down to no greater than would be expected of any design being salvage across the border. What all this means is that Marik will have a bunch of Fleas (I think it is something like 15% of all light Mechs should be Fleas), Liao and Steiner will have a few (Maybe 1/2% - 1%) and Davion and Kurita will have only the rare example.

In the end, I think I'll probably treat the original Flea as just that, the original, and if the Flea gets a "Classic" face-lift, say that all Fleas after a certain year were built with this look. That means that when Wolf's Dragoons shows up with their stockpile of original looking Fleas, it will just lend credence to the idea that they raider a Star League supply cache... And I can still have a home for all while old ones, while it explains away the new ones.

Caz

Pat Payne · « **Reply #29 on:** 03 March 2017, 16:51:33 »

Quote from: The_Livewire on 03 March 2017, 15:06:39

So far no misses all hits for me.

Same here. Each and every one of his redesigns so far has been a delight to see -- evocative enough of the... you know what... to hit me right in the nostalgia, yet different enough to a) keep... you know who... off of CGL's back and b) integrate the designs into the current aestetic (let's be fair, some of the original artwork was starting to look shopworn and out-of-place, quiaff?)