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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #840 on: 21 November 2017, 09:11:42 »
Searching for "pyramid warships" and I saw this photo the Zumwalt with its guns extended don't think I've seen that before in other pictures

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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #841 on: 21 November 2017, 09:46:18 »
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #842 on: 21 November 2017, 10:10:20 »
Followed up by Her Majesty, Lady Excessive Anti-Ship Missiles.

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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #843 on: 21 November 2017, 14:23:00 »
Very well, welcome to the cathedral. Our Lady of Weapons and Antennas.

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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #844 on: 21 November 2017, 14:45:20 »
Nooooope. Too many VLS launchers, hidden weaponry disqualifies her! (That and being radioactive messes more dangerous to their crews than NATO warships, there's that too) ;)
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« Reply #845 on: 21 November 2017, 15:39:10 »
Soyuz nerushimy respublik svobodnykh splotila naveki velikaya rus!

But now the Russians are joining the knob-tipped pyramid game too, as shown by Sovershenny, the latest Steregushchy-class corvette



And another American pyramid-head nearing completion



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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #846 on: 21 November 2017, 15:51:13 »
Let me fix that for you:



Oddly enough, it looks a little like the South Dakota class, with that almost mountain-shaped superstructure. It lacks guns, sadly.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #847 on: 21 November 2017, 16:05:00 »
Actually, from that perspective...

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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #848 on: 21 November 2017, 17:06:46 »
Oddly enough, it looks a little like the South Dakota class, with that almost mountain-shaped superstructure. It lacks guns, sadly.

I love the way the Kirov class ships looked. Such clean lines for a Russian ship vs some of the other ones. A lot more ships are using pyramid shape and they dont look as good.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #849 on: 21 November 2017, 17:10:29 »
Properly be no further ships like it sadly.  Russians don't have the budget build a destroyer similar to it, never mind cruiser.
US doesn't seem to be interesting in making a cruiser size vessel, (Zumwalts don't count in my book...), it's all focus on all-in-one large combatant (aka DDG-51 Class).

I used to be a ship junky, loving new designs coming out. Nowadays, their not so cool as they used to be.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #850 on: 21 November 2017, 17:28:49 »
Matter of taste. I rather like the current generation of ships, with their cleaner lines. Zumwalts are an extreme case, but they're growing on me. Slowly.

It helps when I look at a Sea Pyramid(all hail...), and assume that it's actually powered by blood magic. >:D
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #851 on: 21 November 2017, 17:46:09 »
Alright, how's this: a Skjold-class missile boat of His Norwegian Majesty's Navy. It has a 76mm Oto Melara gun and 8 Kongsberg NSMs hidden in the stern quarters.





It helps when I look at a Sea Pyramid(all hail...), and assume that it's actually powered by blood magic. >:D
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« Reply #852 on: 21 November 2017, 18:52:11 »
and some people incredulously questioned how Comstar ever created a techno-religion ::)

They just followed the formula created by Steve Jobs and the Apple-lyte  >:D
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« Reply #853 on: 21 November 2017, 19:10:14 »
Huh. I like the design. The hidden pop-up missiles are a neat feature. Well done, Scandinavian neo-Viking types!
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« Reply #854 on: 21 November 2017, 19:18:55 »
The Stealth ships make things look very boring.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #855 on: 21 November 2017, 20:22:58 »
Well, Zumwalt's interior is interesting.  Here picture of their bridge.



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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #856 on: 21 November 2017, 22:58:26 »
The pyramid worship is better than our latest national efforts. I give you the Shell owned "Prelude" a floating Liquid Natural Gas processing plant, aka meccano ship.


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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #857 on: 21 November 2017, 23:52:32 »


SS Glomar Explorer.  Nothing to see here, just a plain old floating oil drilling ship. TOTALLY not a crane to salvage a sunk Soviet sub.. Honest guv.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #858 on: 22 November 2017, 00:26:50 »
I couldn't resist. (And tell me with a straight face this never happens)

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« Reply #859 on: 22 November 2017, 04:57:16 »
I was expecting this given the interlocked consoles...

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« Reply #860 on: 22 November 2017, 05:55:34 »
Could not resist either! :D

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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #861 on: 22 November 2017, 07:10:49 »
that's awesome new wallpaper here we come

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« Reply #862 on: 22 November 2017, 09:24:41 »


SS Glomar Explorer.  Nothing to see here, just a plain old floating oil drilling ship. TOTALLY not a crane to salvage a sunk Soviet sub.. Honest guv.

I've never heard for sure if it's true or not, but there's a story that in the weeks following the Kursk's loss, Glomar Explorer was moved to several different mooring sites within Suisun Bay... officially to perform tasks like underwater-hull maintenance and such, and unofficially to remind anyone looking down from certain satellites that in case you want that thing brought back up to the surface, we know a guy...
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« Reply #863 on: 22 November 2017, 10:34:05 »
Sub construction soviet style

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« Reply #864 on: 22 November 2017, 10:55:20 »
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/015799.jpg

Linking over to this one so one can click and zoom in. The two ships prominent in the center are the battleships California and Tennessee, in Philadelphia circa 1946. The next drydock past them contains two heavy cruisers, Los Angeles and Chicago. And of course, in the lower-right is the South Dakota.
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« Reply #865 on: 22 November 2017, 11:08:15 »
Wow, i never seen two battleships in one drydock before.  What sort ship was the dock intended?  Like planned Montana Class or something?
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« Reply #866 on: 22 November 2017, 11:37:56 »
Wow, i never seen two battleships in one drydock before.  What sort ship was the dock intended?  Like planned Montana Class or something?

Drydocks tend to be pretty massive, really- after all, it's not that it needs to be big enough to hold a battleship, it's that it needs to be able to hold at least one, as well as have room for equipment and such to move around and under the hull, braces for the ship, etc.- so it needs to be considerably larger than the ship in it. (Another good example is the drydock at Pearl Harbor that during the attack held the Pennsylvania and a pair of ill-fated destroyers with plenty of room to spare, or the famous St. Nazaire drydock that could have supported the Bismarck if she'd made it there.)

Another good example of what I'm talking about is this view of the USS Gerald Ford during construction:



See how much space is around her? Remember, that's a truly gigantic warship, and there's far more space there than the ship actually needs. So in the battleship example, sure- you can fit two if you need to (particularly since the WWI-era ships weren't as long as the later stuff)- maybe not ideal, but both were being prepped for mothballs at the time, and space in the naval yards was at a premium at this point with all the ships coming back from wartime service. Some of the aerial photos of places like Bremerton, Suisun Bay, Philly, etc. are just staggering in the amount of ships laid up. Subs, destroyers, CVEs, landing ships, everything that had been used to defeat the Axis powers had to get retired, and had to go SOMEWHERE. It's only in the past couple of decades that they've finished up getting rid of some of that backlog.
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« Reply #867 on: 22 November 2017, 11:44:18 »
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/015799.jpg

Linking over to this one so one can click and zoom in. The two ships prominent in the center are the battleships California and Tennessee, in Philadelphia circa 1946. The next drydock past them contains two heavy cruisers, Los Angeles and Chicago. And of course, in the lower-right is the South Dakota.
The South Dakota looks massive when compared to the Tennessee and Pennsylvania
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« Reply #868 on: 22 November 2017, 12:08:09 »
The South Dakota looks massive when compared to the Tennessee and Pennsylvania

Something like 80 feet difference or so if I remember right- but only a couple thousand tons heavier. Advances in engine technology in particular, as well as the novel (if cramped) idea of putting the boilers above the engines rather than in-line as with most ships, kept the SoDaks pretty short compared to contemporaries like the King George V or North Carolina. Which was the idea- a shorter ship means a shorter armor belt, and that's where most of the weight is on a ship like that.

BuShips built very good, if flawed, ships in the North Carolinas, and the idea to design a triple-16 inch mount that fit in the space intended for quad-14s allowed them to upgun during construction- a very good move. But as with most American ships, they were designed to be armored against their own shellfire- in this case, against 14-inch shells. So the plan for the follow-ons was to armor against 16-inch, but keep in the treaty limits, and so weight had to drop somehow. Reducing the length but increasing the thickness of the armor was key, and to do that these became very cramped ships. Note that postwar, there were some plans to heavily modify North Carolina and Washington into landing ships and such, but none were ever considered seriously for the South Dakotas.

(Also, amusingly, the British had the same idea with the King George V- just in case Japan broke the rules, they included an easily-changed feature to improve the ships past the treaty limits. Where the Americans designed a way to get bigger guns, KGV got an extra strake of armor, making her impervious in theory to 16-inch fire. Certainly in their only situation where one took heavy-caliber shellfire- Prince of Wales against the Bismarck- the belt never really was tested, so it's hard to say how she would have stood up to it. Then again, the South Dakota was the only American to really get its armor tested, and same result- only one major-caliber hit was scored, which was stopped by barbette armor rather than the belt.)

Really, the North Carolina and KGV make for a fascinating comparison- a duel would have been very interesting.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #869 on: 22 November 2017, 12:56:03 »
. . . It helps when I look at a Sea Pyramid(all hail...) . . .

here you go, a REAL sea pyramid (and a swan-class cruiser  ;D ):