Author Topic: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.  (Read 3498 times)

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Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« on: 17 December 2020, 21:32:36 »
After many years, I'm finally replacing my official Combined Arms Nova'd Binary : Alpha Star is a mixed Nova Star while Beta is also a mixed Nova Star.

Alpha contains a Kingfisher D and a Cougar E, 1 Secondline mech, 2 Points Proto and 3 Points BA.

Beta contains one Bowman 2 and a Secondline mech, 3 Points of vehicles and a double point of Infantry.

I also have a single Aero Star as backup.

So the time line is close to 3070, but am interested in DA time line as well.

Specifically CHH -> CSL...

So with that, what do you recommend?

They need similar weapon ranges and damage, hard hitting but mobile.

And of course you'll probably wonder about the tanks eh...

2 Kokou XL, 2 Pike C and 2 Mars XL... I've had pretty good fortune with this combo both in campaign and teaching during tabletop! ( It use to be 2 Demolisher Cs... before the Kokou. )

Thanks,
TT
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #1 on: 18 December 2020, 01:12:38 »
hmm, Griffin IIC for Alpha? adds another ERLL to go with the Kingfishers trio, but throw in some LRMs in addition to the Cougar's ATMs

how about a Glass Spider in Beta to punch big holes for all those LRMs to exploit (I know the Mars has a Gauss, but more doesn't hurt)

Griffin IIC is a 6 on the WoR: Supplemental RAT for both CHH and CSL
Glass Spider is a 4 on both RATs
« Last Edit: 18 December 2020, 01:16:14 by Zeruel »
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #2 on: 19 December 2020, 23:46:17 »
Which Griffin?

I can always state isola...

Standard " Prime "
Upgrade-1 " 4 "
Upgrade-2 " 6 "

also which Glass Spider sounds " mean and dirty ", but isn't?  >:D

Standard " Prime "
Upgrade " 3 " since " 2 " is munchy as hell way to much like that crappy Rifleman IIC Prime!

Though that Rifleman IIC 5 otoh...  :drool:

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« Last Edit: 19 December 2020, 23:49:29 by truetanker »
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #3 on: 20 December 2020, 00:04:59 »
I meant the prime variant for both Mechs
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #4 on: 20 December 2020, 00:12:16 »
Ah...

Duly noted...

Let me think on this...

( Meaning I gotta run a few scenarios... )  :thumbsup:

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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #5 on: 20 December 2020, 13:54:22 »

Thunder Stallion 1 or 2 for Beta.
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #6 on: 20 December 2020, 15:12:51 »
if you want more missiles, yea, the Thunder Stallion (1 or 2) is a good choice for Beta

although the Bowman is the only thing moving faster than 3/5 then
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #7 on: 20 December 2020, 23:28:39 »
Currently, I have a Point of Elemental Fire - AP Gauss, another Point with Fast Assault and a Point of CHH Afreet assigned to Alpha and 2 Points of Fast Recon in Beta before the mass home world abandonment..

Later I kept them same, but swap for Buraq instead of Afreet in 3140.

Also I have no hard feelings on the use of a 3/5er, like, I usually move 4 hexes a turn anyway!  :thumbsup:

Though a Thunder Stallion 3 sounds interestingly fun... but where?

Still doing " Trials of Postion "... so far the Griffin IIC 4 is wining...

( I'm fighting my youngest... a single Ares-Zeus! Either Alpha or Beta fight it... All 4/5 skillsets, Light woods.... )

Yeah... that's a ToP!

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TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
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« Reply #8 on: 22 December 2020, 12:30:02 »
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #9 on: 22 December 2020, 19:35:04 »
Thing is, I'm staying away from Pulses, not because I'm scared of them, because of the stupid overuse of munchydom!

Literally had an encounter about 17 years ago, against a tabletop player named ' Gunner ', now I was hosting a pair of Demo C, a Highlander IIC and two Points of standard Toads. Most of my units we're low in piloting and gunnery.

He ran a Rifleman IIC, a Kit Fox S and two Points of same Toads. He went clearly 0/3 for his IIC, and 3/5 for the rest..

Yeah after five rounds I walked away, told the judge he was cheating. Judge looked at the setting and said he wasn't, stating it was legal... really? He needed 8's to hit me at long range, every turn! ( I know it's not an illegal move, but to come to the table deliberately with this to teach someone a lesson is one thing. But to show off cause you can... is another. )

Needless to say, he kinda pissed everyone off, but at the time Honor rules where in play. I ended up starting the Grand Melee... on purpose. He was quickly eliminated and fumed when he had to pack up, on the way out he was told by the judge that such units will not be allowed ever again, 2/4 or higher next time.

Ran into him again a few months later... tried the same thing, really don't know what happened but he was escorted out of the building and told not to show up again. Found out later he was running a pair of Supernova 4's using 2/4 skills.

I consider anything using multiple Pulse / TC and a skillset of 3 or less munchy firing at Medium or even at Long!

It's a personal thing, and the fact I don't want to be known as a over abuser!

TT
« Last Edit: 22 December 2020, 19:37:15 by truetanker »
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That is, if true tanker doesn't beat me to it. He makes truly evil units.Col.Hengist on 31 May 2013
TT, we know you are the master of nasty  O0 ~ Fletch on 22 June 2013
If I'm attacking you, conventional wisom says to bring 3x your force.  I want extra insurance, so I'll bring 4 for every 1 of what you have :D ~ Tai Dai Cultist on 21 April 2016
Me: Would you rather fight my Epithymía Thanátou from the Whispers of Blake?
Nav_Alpha: That THING... that is horrid
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Re: Sell me on some Secondline Mechs.
« Reply #10 on: 22 December 2020, 22:58:17 »
0/3 for his IIC
I hate this kind of thing. Honestly you're lucky he didn't min-max to a 0/5 to cheese out even more BV, I've seen that done. I don't mind pulse mechs much but goofy pilots like that... Well I guess the Red Baron was notoriously a very good shot while only an average aircraft pilot, but still.

On the thread topic, the Blood Kite is being built by the Lions. Can't go wrong with one of those unless you want something to carry BA. Grizzlies and Glass Spiders are simple and solid too.

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( I'm fighting my youngest... a single Ares-Zeus! Either Alpha or Beta fight it... All 4/5 skillsets, Light woods.... )
Sounds almost like O.G.R.E.

 

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