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« Reply #30 on: 02 August 2016, 15:50:01 »
...please tell me you don't mean Henderson.  :-\

Huh?  No Way!  I saw that mugging happen.  It would have triggered my PTSD for years to actually be the recipient of that garbage.

Oldham was who I meant.  And even then, I was being rather facetious.  O0
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« Reply #31 on: 02 August 2016, 16:07:08 »
Ok, good- wasn't entirely sure, was kind of staring at it thinking "there's no way he means THAT... right?"

Don't get me wrong, the idea of cross-checking a ref in the face occurred a few times for me, but to actually see someone do it was bizarre.
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« Reply #32 on: 04 August 2016, 14:59:42 »
Yeah, I happened to be watching that game at the bar when that happened.  No one else was even paying attention to the TV at that moment for various reasons.  Except me.  I promptly called for everyone to watch the screen (laced with colloquialisms and profanity) as they replayed it ten times. 

I remember the discussion here, too.  My take was if the linesman was wearing an opposing team's jersey, the excuse given for wrecking the guy might have flown.  But as it happened, the linesman was dressed as a zebra, as all linesmen tend to be dressed. He should have sat out for several months.
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« Reply #33 on: 05 August 2016, 11:16:54 »
I just hope my Wild make it past the first round.

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« Reply #34 on: 05 August 2016, 20:18:45 »
I just hope my Wild make it past the first round.

Considering their new coach's track record, getting to the first round is easy. Getting past Game 7, however...
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« Reply #35 on: 11 August 2016, 14:40:55 »
Hey, guess who just quit on the Avs? Did you say the head coach and the VP of Hockey Operations? Then you are correct!

The question is why? Why did Roy leave the team a month before training camps open?
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« Reply #36 on: 11 August 2016, 22:18:06 »
Well... why, we don't really know, but there's a few hints.

+Apparently he and Sakic haven't been getting along- a report says they haven't spoken since the draft, and not often before that. That's a problem.

+Ownership turned down nearly every opportunity to go after free agents Roy wanted to try for, instead preferring to stick with the roster they already had. (Considering how poor the team has been the past couple of years, Roy may have had a point here)

+Sakic just left on vacation, and suddenly Roy quit while Sakic wasn't around. That might be coincidence, but hard to believe.

+Interestingly, some reports say that he may very well have let the Avalanche know about his decision the way we all found out- by social media, rather than letting his employer know about it beforehand. If so, that's utterly baffling- and probably will be remembered by other teams in case Roy wants to coach in the NHL again someday.

All in all, the Avs might be better off here. That 2014 team was pretty fun, but had deep flaws. Those flaws became fatal over the next two seasons, and there's not much reason to think it will be better this year. The grumbling back home has been noticeable, and there's a strong belief that Roy would have been offered up as a sacrifice to buy time for Sakic if the team struggled. Now that safety net is gone for Sakic- if the team struggles, he may be the fall guy.

Question though... who takes over? Most teams have already snapped up available coach candidates, no team is going to let an assistant coach walk mere weeks before camp starts... the only NHL-caliber candidate that comes to mind at this hour for me is Bob Hartley, who is pretty unlikely to ever want to coach in Colorado again. So... now what?

What a mess.
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« Reply #37 on: 12 August 2016, 07:06:29 »
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« Reply #38 on: 12 August 2016, 09:41:37 »
And Roy seemed so grown up in this new NHL head coach incarnation.

Roy has a good point if the team was disinterested in doing the things necessary to produce a winner, and doubly so if there really was no communication between Roy and Sakic.  But that last idea seems strange.  Sakic should be easy for Roy to work with in this instance.  Yet, if that's not so, it points most likely toward ownership.  If the owners won't let Sakic do certain things, they aren't going to start listening to Roy, their mind is made up about how they are spending their money.
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« Reply #39 on: 12 August 2016, 10:18:15 »
Oh, and in the interest of forwarding a suggestion for Roy's replacement, can't somebody get Mike Bossy on the phone?  He needs his turn to be ground down at the coaching millstone.
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« Reply #40 on: 13 August 2016, 15:12:18 »
Millbury. Yeah. That will work.  :D

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« Reply #41 on: 13 August 2016, 17:25:28 »
Oh, and in the interest of forwarding a suggestion for Roy's replacement, can't somebody get Mike Bossy on the phone?  He needs his turn to be ground down at the coaching millstone.

Unless he recently changed his mind, Mike Bossy stated he didn't want to coach anyone but the kids from the Timbits program. He doesn't want the ulcers that come with peoples that forgot that hockey is supposed to be a fun game.  :P :P ;D O:-) O:-)

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« Reply #42 on: 13 August 2016, 19:34:51 »
Millbury. Yeah. That will work.  :D

I reserve the right to ban your account and launch your computer into the sun for that kind of blasphemy.  ;D
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« Reply #43 on: 13 August 2016, 21:56:28 »
Unless he recently changed his mind, Mike Bossy stated he didn't want to coach anyone but the kids from the Timbits program. He doesn't want the ulcers that come with peoples that forgot that hockey is supposed to be a fun game.  :P :P ;D O:-) O:-)

Ahhh, the Bossy One is wise.  Better to keep one's heart and health in mind when deciding these things.

I reserve the right to ban your account and launch your computer into the sun for that kind of blasphemy.  ;D

Milbury humor is the slightly rotten low-hanging  fruit of the NHL front office circles.  >:D
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« Reply #44 on: 14 August 2016, 00:34:44 »
Mike Keenan isn't doing anything these days  ;D

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« Reply #45 on: 14 August 2016, 10:41:43 »
Mike Keenan isn't doing anything these days  ;D

Or for the past about 20 years, when you look at his record.

Seriously, has anyone ever turned a single championship (one where he hardly was coach anyway- that was Messier's team) into two decades of piss-poor coaching jobs quite the way he has? I've never been impressed with Keenan, at any of his many stops along the way- his defensive and penalty kill setups are ridiculous. If not for '94 no one would have bothered with him by the end of that decade- but with a Cup on his resume (again, one he could have stayed home from and not affected the Rangers), he somehow still gets talked about by talking heads like he's some kind of guru.

There's a rumor in the Denver area, by the way, that one of the people being looked at is Peter Forsberg. Because hiring a past player worked really well- at least Roy has previous coaching experience at the QMJ level. I have to believe Sakic is smarter than to do something like this- bring him in as part of your staff, whatever, hell he might be a good choice as a scout, but... find a real coach, Joe.

(Idea: Have Adam Foote be your interim coach for a few weeks until Boston has their first three-game losing streak, then hire Claude Julien when the Bruins inevitably fire him as a result)
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« Reply #46 on: 14 August 2016, 16:29:10 »
(Idea: Have Adam Foote be your interim coach for a few weeks until Boston has their first three-game losing streak, then hire Claude Julien when the Bruins inevitably fire him as a result)

Foote's name came up as an idea as I was trying to piece together who might be available the the Avs could potentially hire.  Nothing came up in his bio about any coaching though.  Travis Green, Kevin Dineen, and Paul Mclean would all make sense as decent hires.  All of them are also unlikely because of the fact they are all assistance of head coaches and time remaining leading up to camps and pre-season are short.  Bleacherreport threw out a couple interesting names in he junior ranks Brent Sutter and one former Av, Steve Konowalchuk.    Ted Nolan and Crazy Ronnie Wilson are out there too }:)

Edit:  Just noticed Tim Army is already on staff with the Avs as an assistant.  While he has no head coaching experience he is a hockey lifer and has some college head coaching experience.  Certainly, that is less that ideal, but if they can't find anyone else to hire, it may not be a bad initial way to fill the post.
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« Reply #47 on: 14 August 2016, 17:29:45 »
Konowalchuk? I mean... I hesitate to call him a former Av. Technically true, but I think he played, what, twelve games for them? Screw that guy.  ;D

Nah, it's safe to say that no one is letting a current assistant coach go anywhere, sadly. So it's either sweet-talk Hartley (possible, I suppose, it's different ownership in charge now than when he got canned), or gamble on a 'who?' candidate. Either way, we'll know soon, because Sakic has a bit over a month to camp starting, and the sooner he's got someone the sooner they can start prep work for that.

Man, Roy screwed this team over with his timing... ugh.
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« Reply #48 on: 14 August 2016, 19:38:28 »
Konowalchuk? I mean... I hesitate to call him a former Av. Technically true, but I think he played, what, twelve games for them? Screw that guy.  ;D

Just shy of 100 games before he had to retire due to medical reasons.  Didn't realize it, but he was also an assistant on Sacco's staff.

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Man, Roy screwed this team over with his timing... ugh.
I would say that the overall management of the team is a disaster and screwed itself.  Roy just kicked the door off its hinges when management thought it could go through at least another storm (i.e. another season).  If his input, however bad it is, was truly frozen out, then ownership should have just shown him the door after the season was over.  The fact that he quit on them and they didn't see this coming shows how extremely short sighted they are.  Removing Roy after the season was the right move and they failed to make it.

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« Reply #49 on: 14 August 2016, 20:18:49 »
Roy is exactly the kind of guy who would smile at this and the timing especially, unfortunately.  He can be a real bastard, and we all know that.
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« Reply #50 on: 15 August 2016, 07:14:36 »
Hey Hellbie, I hear Adam Oates is looking for a head coaching job.
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« Reply #51 on: 15 August 2016, 09:14:49 »
Hey Hellbie, I hear Adam Oates is looking for a head coaching job.

After his time in DC? I doubt he has any expectations of that any time soon. (Actually isn't he on a coaching staff already?)
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« Reply #52 on: 16 August 2016, 00:31:02 »
Oates is on a staff an an assist coach this year, I can't remember which team though.  One legitimate guy left out in the pool that isn't tied to anything at the moment Luke Richardson.  He elected to move on after the Sens didn't offer him their coaching vacancy.

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« Reply #53 on: 25 August 2016, 14:57:23 »
The Blue Jackets' AHL team gave up their head coach to the Avalanche. Jared Bednar will be the bench boss for the upcoming season. Interestingly enough the new coach has exactly zero experience in the NHL, only playing for minor league teams.
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« Reply #54 on: 25 August 2016, 15:06:11 »
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« Reply #55 on: 25 August 2016, 21:53:38 »
I don't believe that anyone they could have interviewed at this point was going to be the best candidate that could have materialized had Roy decided to leave at the beginning of the summer.  That said, the only strike I see against this guy is he never snuffed the NHL.

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« Reply #56 on: 27 August 2016, 15:55:23 »
Wings did that last season.  Blash got a mediocre to sub-mediocre team to make the playoffs.  First year as an NHL coach.

I guess that extended some kind of streak or other, I don't know...
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« Reply #57 on: 22 September 2016, 07:45:21 »
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« Reply #58 on: 22 September 2016, 08:08:18 »
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« Reply #59 on: 22 September 2016, 11:43:49 »
It's the first day of fall, it's time for hockey to commence soon.  The Red Wings are going to be great again, if great really means winning just enough to continue bathing in mediocre sauce.

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