Author Topic: MWO Roughneck unveiled (Read 20843 times)

martian · « **on:** 03 December 2016, 14:57:00 »

Roughneck

Roughneck

Description

Almost all variants are centered around ballistic hardpoints with either energy or missile hardpoints thrown in.

One Reinforcements model is pure energy boat with seven energy hardpoints.

Hero 'Mech with a mixed loadout.

No ECM or Jump Jets.

Cyc · « **Reply #1 on:** 03 December 2016, 15:57:30 »

Okay, not within valid era for HBS game, but will it be ported back to tabletop I wonder?

worktroll · « **Reply #2 on:** 03 December 2016, 15:59:08 »

Nice to see the priority the HBS folks are paying to the old, seemingly discarded canon history. ::)

Bren · « **Reply #3 on:** 03 December 2016, 16:13:59 »

Piranha Games, no?

martian · « **Reply #4 on:** 03 December 2016, 16:15:19 »

PGI can keep that piece of junk.

Deadborder · « **Reply #5 on:** 03 December 2016, 16:30:26 »

I have to ask what's the history of this thing? Is it form some obscure piece of FASA-era fluff? Or some Battletechnology or whatever else article?

martian · « **Reply #6 on:** 03 December 2016, 16:39:22 »

Quote from: Deadborder on 03 December 2016, 16:30:26

I have to ask what's the history of this thing? Is it form some obscure piece of FASA-era fluff? Or some Battletechnology or whatever else article?

You have the link in the first post.

Bren · « **Reply #7 on:** 03 December 2016, 16:41:24 »

Its lineage is more obvious in this image:
https://static.mwomercs.com/packages/roughneck/img/slide2-roughneck.jpg

Maybe HBS really wanted a series of IndustrialMechs for their campaign and worked this out with PGI.

edit: fixed typo, thanks kurt

kurtl000 · « **Reply #8 on:** 03 December 2016, 17:02:25 »

I think there are alot of people confused about the difference between PGI and HBS. As for your comment worktroll i dont get it haha

Dmon · « **Reply #9 on:** 03 December 2016, 17:07:06 »

Considering the fact that the 'Mechs ar the only real connection that MWO seems to have to the wider BattleTech universe I guess it was only a matter of time before they decided to drop that and just start inventing their own 'Mechs and save a tidy sum of licensing the IP.

Wrangler · « **Reply #10 on:** 03 December 2016, 17:07:32 »

I guess they want start seeding their own designs now. Is their contract on the franchise running out or something?

Wrangler · « **Reply #11 on:** 03 December 2016, 17:17:42 »

Second look it appears to be made for the Solaris arena.

From jabber over on MWO forum, they don't seem to be digging it at the moment. XL engines, double Ultras, some "special" lasers like ER Large Lasers or something. (or breaking canon ER Medium lasers, or it could be clan. That would timeline make sense)

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #12 on:** 03 December 2016, 18:26:00 »

While I absolutely love the design, I just don't think it could be that good. Unfortunate, because I really want it to be.

If they bothered to add melee, based off of the whole Solaris thing as well as the looks of this 'mech, I would be a bit more happy about it-but as it stands, thanks but no thanks, PGI.

Adrian Gideon · « **Reply #13 on:** 03 December 2016, 18:51:03 »

Quote from: Cyc on 03 December 2016, 15:57:30

Okay, not within valid era for HBS game, but will it be ported back to tabletop I wonder?

sure, but considering we cannot use anything based on or close to their art, I don't see it worth any effort.

martian · « **Reply #14 on:** 04 December 2016, 03:16:57 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 03 December 2016, 17:07:32

I guess they want start seeding their own designs now. Is their contract on the franchise running out or something?

They have the licence until 2018 or 2020 or so.

DarkSpade · « **Reply #15 on:** 04 December 2016, 12:10:39 »

I like the design aside from the stubby hands. I'm not sure what use those would be to either an industrial or battle mech.

I'm confused about all the comments mentioning HBS though. What do they have to do with this?

martian · « **Reply #16 on:** 04 December 2016, 12:23:01 »

Quote from: DarkSpade on 04 December 2016, 12:10:39

I'm confused about all the comments mentioning HBS though. What do they have to do with this?

HBS has nothing to do with this 'Mech.

NeonKnight · « **Reply #17 on:** 04 December 2016, 13:15:57 »

I'll be honest, I like it, and I want to see to PGI Succeed? I honestly don;t get why we as a fanbase so desperately want to see parts of this franchise fail?

To me we are in a New Renaissance of the game. Three different companies with their own individual licenses working together to make the game we apparently all love, and yet, people seem to hope one part or another fails and withers and dies.

I just don;t understand it. I'll give my money, maybe use it Solaris for funsies, I'll whimper and cry as I wait for 2018 and MW5 to roll out, I'll curl into a ball and hope to sleep until Feb of Next year for BETA for HBS's Battletech.

Again, if you don;t like it, fine, but honestly, lets stop with the Condemnation for companies trying to push our game forward and bring their own mark to it.

Wrangler · « **Reply #18 on:** 04 December 2016, 13:37:19 »

If this thing was first unit that can do physical attacks, i'd be more all for it.

Solaris is very close-up and personal fight. I remember MW4 expansions online it was just about only game most of the remaining surviving player base was doing was Solaris.

It's obscure Industrial Mech, Randall did nice write up on it making the fluff story really enjoyable to read.
I can see it being slipped into canon, if there no licensing issues. Lord knows we don't want MORE unseens.

I'm curious how their going handle it's armor? 65 ton industrial mech, only Heavy Industrial Armor (aka standard armor)?

MarauderD · « **Reply #19 on:** 04 December 2016, 13:46:45 »

I am disappoint. If I wanted another IS heavy, I'd say Crusader. I was excited for a new IS light like the Javelin, but no, that got put off. I'm a whale, but apparently I've beached myself because my wallet has been closed for the last seven mechs or so:

martian · « **Reply #20 on:** 04 December 2016, 13:57:19 »

About 24 hours ago I was ready to buy 2-3 Clan Hero 'Mechs - actually, I was preparing my credit card. I wouldn't have a problem with buying the (possible) Crusader either.

But after this .... my wallet is closed and it is going to stay so.

Bren · « **Reply #21 on:** 04 December 2016, 15:19:08 »

Quote from: martian on 04 December 2016, 12:23:01

HBS has nothing to do with this 'Mech.

The reason I floated the HBS thought was that it seemed to make little sense to bring a brand new IndustrialMech (sorta) into MWO. Anyone that follows the game and buys 'Mechs will tell you PGI will make more ROI from a hundred existing BattleMech designs than the Roughneck. The only thing that made sense to me was PGI cross-pollination (single player world/campaign).

Now that MechWarrior 5 is announced and having the work that goes into this 'Mech for;

MWO Solaris
PGI campaign asset
MW5 campaign asset

It makes a lot more sense.

martian · « **Reply #22 on:** 04 December 2016, 16:05:17 »

Quote from: Bren on 04 December 2016, 15:19:08

The reason I floated the HBS thought was that it seemed to make little sense to bring a brand new IndustrialMech (sorta) into MWO.

Russ Bullock's MWO ideas often seem to make a little sense.

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #23 on:** 04 December 2016, 17:27:52 »

Quote from: NeonKnight on 04 December 2016, 13:15:57

I'll be honest, I like it, and I want to see to PGI Succeed? I honestly don;t get why we as a fanbase so desperately want to see parts of this franchise fail?

To me we are in a New Renaissance of the game. Three different companies with their own individual licenses working together to make the game we apparently all love, and yet, people seem to hope one part or another fails and withers and dies.

I just don;t understand it. I'll give my money, maybe use it Solaris for funsies, I'll whimper and cry as I wait for 2018 and MW5 to roll out, I'll curl into a ball and hope to sleep until Feb of Next year for BETA for HBS's Battletech.

Again, if you don;t like it, fine, but honestly, lets stop with the Condemnation for companies trying to push our game forward and bring their own mark to it.

This. While I'm not really on PGI's side either, the constant complaining about everything they do-seemingly good or bad-is pretty annoying.

SteveRestless · « **Reply #24 on:** 04 December 2016, 17:33:10 »

Quote from: martian on 04 December 2016, 13:57:19

About 24 hours ago I was ready to buy 2-3 Clan Hero 'Mechs - actually, I was preparing my credit card. I wouldn't have a problem with buying the (possible) Crusader either.

But after this .... my wallet is closed and it is going to stay so.

Agreed, when there are so many existing mechs that could be added, this is ridiculous

Wrangler · « **Reply #25 on:** 04 December 2016, 18:29:54 »

Russ Bullock must have plans for something in the future. Arming a industrial mech and saying's bad ass heavy mech with mediocre weapons dumb. Unless he's planning to limit amount of weapons hard points per solaris mechs. Keeping the ubber machines on the battlefield.

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #26 on:** 04 December 2016, 19:16:07 »

I think it's actually supposed to be a heavy battlemech based off an industrial 'mech, not an industrial 'mech stated to be a heavy battlemech.

The_Caveman · « **Reply #27 on:** 04 December 2016, 22:40:04 »

Just further proof that while Alex Iglesias is a very technically competent artist, he can only draw variations of the same 'Mech.

This thing looks so much like the MWO Shadowhawk I thought it was a SHD hero 'Mech at first.

worktroll · « **Reply #28 on:** 04 December 2016, 23:04:10 »

With you there, Caveman. Had the same thought - "gun's meant to be on the left, correct?"

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #29 on:** 04 December 2016, 23:14:31 »

Quote from: The_Caveman on 04 December 2016, 22:40:04

Just further proof that while Alex Iglesias is a very technically competent artist, he can only draw variations of the same 'Mech.

This thing looks so much like the MWO Shadowhawk I thought it was a SHD hero 'Mech at first.

Wait, what?

I'm not sure if you know what a Shadowhawk is anymore, considering the vast differences between this and the Shadowhawk. It does (Barely, if you squint your eyes real tight) ape the Shadow Hawk in terms of armament, but that seems to be the similarity's end.

As for his art, it's less "Variations on the same 'mech" and more "'Mechs in a specific style".