Author Topic: Rasalhague Interface OmniMechs. (Read 2754 times)

Jellico · « **on:** 13 May 2017, 07:25:04 »

The future is Interface. The Touman will not like it. The public will think it another suicidal warrior proclivity. But with the Wolves deploying their Skinwalker the widespread deployment of Interface Cockpits is an inevitability. The tactical benefits are too great.
Institutionally we are going to have to institute measures to limit the consequences of EI use. Fortunately, huge strides have been made in the last century, limiting the damage, but for those warriors on a command path we may need to limit cockpit time or provide specialist command ‘Mechs.

We are in a fortunate position that the Raven Alliance has already completed much of the work for managing EI and designing Interface systems. They are more than willing to share the Skinwalker with us. The quid pro quo is access to our production. This is totally reasonable as the production assets will remain within our jurisdiction.

With that in mind design work has begun on a series of Interface ‘Mechs to fill existing niches within the Touman. Where possible existing units have been modified to minimize retooling needs.

Jellico · « **Reply #1 on:** 13 May 2017, 07:27:04 »

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Grand Executioner
The Grand Executioner finally implements long lasting plans to provide the Executioner with an endo-steel chassis. The removal of the gyro and introduction of the Interface Cockpit are convenient bonuses freeing up internal space. Improved armour and pod mounted jump jets are a much-needed renovation.
It is expected that Bergan should be able to begin production without too much difficulty as the only unsourced item is the cockpit. Moulds for the chassis have been in place for the last 50 years.

Grand Executioner

Mass: 95 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 32,818,906 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,662

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 380 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h (86.4 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
41.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 145 points 5.00
Internal Locations: 2 LT, 3 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA
Engine: XL Engine 380 20.50
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6 (8)
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 15(30) 5.00
Gyro: 0.00
Cockpit: Interface 4.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 288 15.00
Armor Locations: 1 LT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 30 47
Center Torso (rear) 12
L/R Torso 20 30
L/R Torso (rear) 10
L/R Arm 16 31
L/R Leg 20 39

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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MASC CT - 4 4.00
Free Critical Slots: 32

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 17
5 0 0 0 0 4 0 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 47,469,134
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 5,174

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 4 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 8.00
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 19(38) 4.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 RA
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00
MASC CT - 4 4.00
Supercharger CT - 1 2.50
(CL) Targeting Computer RT - 3 3.00
Angel ECM LT 0 2 2.00
TAG LT 0 1 1.00
2 (CL) ER PPCs RA 30 4 12.00
2 (CL) Streak SRM-6s LA 8 4 6.00
@Streak SRM-6 (30) LA - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 52
6/4j 6 6 4 0 4 0 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, AECM, TAG, PRB, RCN, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

================================================================================
Loadout Name: A Cost: 37,352,656
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 4,998

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 4 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 8.00
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 16(32) 1.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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MASC CT - 4 4.00
(CL) Targeting Computer RT - 5 5.00
Watchdog CEWS LT 0 2 1.50
2 (CL) ER PPCs RA 30 4 12.00
(CL) Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00
@Gauss Rifle (16) LA - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 7

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 50
5/4j 5 5 5 0 4 0 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, WAT, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Loadout Name: B Cost: 47,513,009
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 5,879

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 4 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 8.00
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 17(34) 2.00
Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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MASC CT - 4 4.00
Supercharger CT - 1 2.50
Angel ECM RT 0 2 2.00
(CL) Targeting Computer RT - 3 3.00
(CL) ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00
(CL) Streak LRM-15 RA 5 3 7.00
3 (CL) Medium Pulse Lasers LA 12 3 6.00
3 (CL) ER Medium Lasers LA 15 3 3.00
@Streak LRM-15 (16) RA - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 3

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 59
6/4j 6 6 3 0 4 3 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, AECM, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Jellico · « **Reply #2 on:** 13 May 2017, 07:28:46 »

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Laughing Jack
The weakness of the highly mobile Executioner was that it lacked the durability to serve as a line assault. Historically this role was filled by the Kingfisher and later the Warhawk. Unfortunately, the mischances of war have left those ‘Mechs unavailable to us. However, the engineers at Bergan have been able to repurpose the Grand Executioner’s chassis, armoring the internals and replacing the armor. The result is under gunned, but incredibly sturdy and able to keep pace with our frontline combat units.
Laughing Jack

Mass: 95 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 38,175,313 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,939

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 380 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
27.0 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 145 points 5.00
Internal Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT
Engine: (A) XL Engine 380 25.50
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 15(30) 5.00
Gyro: 0.00
Cockpit: Interface 6.00
(A) Sensors + (A) Sensors + (A) Life Support + (A) Life Support Arm Actuators: L: (A)SH+(A)UA R: (A)SH+(A)UA
Leg Actuators: L: (A)H+(A)UL+(A)LL+(A)F R: (A)H+(A)UL+(A)LL+(A)F
Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 287 20.50
Armor Locations: 4 LA, 4 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 30 46
Center Torso (rear) 12
L/R Torso 20 30
L/R Torso (rear) 10
L/R Arm 16 31
L/R Leg 20 39

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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 42,955,250
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 4,034

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 16(32) 1.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
CASE II Locations: 1 RT 0.50
Actuators: L: (A)SH+(A)UA R: (A)SH+(A)UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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(CL) ER PPC CT 15 2 6.00
ECM Suite CT 0 1 1.00
(CL) ER Medium Pulse Laser RT 6 2 2.00
(CL) ER Medium Pulse Laser LT 6 2 2.00
(CL) Targeting Computer LT - 3 3.00
(CL) LRM-20 RA 6 4 5.00
Artemis V FCS RA - 2 1.50
3 (CL) Improved Heavy Medium Lasers LA 21 6 3.00
@LRM-20 (Art-V) (12) RT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 4

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 12 Points: 40
4 6 6 3 0 4 3 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, CASEII, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1

================================================================================
Loadout Name: A Cost: 40,759,063
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 3,925

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 25(50) 10.00
Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA
Actuators: L: (A)SH+(A)UA R: (A)SH+(A)UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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5 (CL) ER Medium Lasers CT 25 5 5.00
(CL) ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00
(CL) ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00
Free Critical Slots: 2

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 12 Points: 39
4 7 7 3 0 4 0 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Loadout Name: B Cost: 40,673,750
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 3,436

Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actuators: L: (A)SH+(A)UA R: (A)SH+(A)UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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(CL) ER PPC CT 15 2 6.00
(CL) LRM-15 RA 5 2 3.50
Artemis V FCS RA - 2 1.50
(CL) Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00
@Gauss Rifle (8) RT - 1 1.00
@Gauss Rifle (8) LT - 1 1.00
@LRM-15 (16) RA - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 15

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 12 Points: 34
4 5 5 5 0 4 0 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1

Jellico · « **Reply #3 on:** 13 May 2017, 07:30:00 »

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Onikuma

Intended as the workhorse Omnimech of the Clan, the Onikuma shares features of the Mad Dog, Arcas, Kuma, and Karhu. Odin Manufacturing has based the Onikuma upon the Karhu chassis though Bergan has been ordered to source the electronics this time. Ferro Lammelor armor was considered but space limitations prevented it being an option. The benefits can be seen in the A and B variants. The OniKuma is expected to be operate alongside Skinwalkers to provide the core of our fighting power while operating in a support role with our lighter and heavier units.

Onikuma

Mass: 65 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 15,930,406 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,205

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 325 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
31.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 104 points 3.50
Internal Locations: 1 CT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine: XL Engine 325 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00
Gyro: 0.00
Cockpit: Interface 4.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 211 11.00
Armor Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 21 32
Center Torso (rear) 10
L/R Torso 15 23
L/R Torso (rear) 7
L/R Arm 10 20
L/R Leg 15 30

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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 26,601,575
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 4,194

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 5 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 5.00
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 15(30) 2.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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(CL) Streak SRM-4 CT 3 1 2.00
Supercharger CT - 1 1.50
(CL) Medium Pulse Laser RT 4 1 2.00
(CL) Streak SRM-4 RT 3 1 2.00
(CL) Targeting Computer RT - 3 3.00
(CL) Medium Pulse Laser LT 4 1 2.00
(CL) Streak SRM-4 LT 3 1 2.00
Angel ECM LT 0 2 2.00
(CL) ER Large Laser RA 12 1 4.00
(CL) ER Large Laser LA 12 1 4.00
Free Critical Slots: 10

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 42
6/5j 5 5 2 0 3 1 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AECM, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

================================================================================
Loadout Name: A Cost: 21,513,594
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 3,111

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 7 (Improved)
Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT 14.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Watchdog CEWS CT 0 2 1.50
2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers RT 10 2 2.00
2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers LT 10 2 2.00
Claws RA - 5 5.00
(CL) ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
Claws LA - 5 5.00
(CL) ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 2

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 31
5/7j 4 4 0 0 3 1 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, MEL, WAT, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

================================================================================
Loadout Name: B Cost: 19,024,156
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 2,343

Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Watchdog CEWS CT 0 2 1.50
(CL) Arrow IV Missile RT/RA 10 4/8 12.00
(CL) Arrow IV Missile LT/LA 10 4/8 12.00
@Arrow IV (Cluster) (5) RT - 1 1.00
@Arrow IV (Homing) (5) RT - 1 1.00
@Arrow IV (FASCAM) (5) RT - 1 1.00
@Arrow IV (Cluster) (5) LT - 1 1.00
@Arrow IV (Homing) (5) LT - 1 1.00
@Arrow IV (FASCAM) (5) LT - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 4

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 23
5 4 0 0 0 3 0 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, ARTAC, WAT, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Loadout Name: C Cost: 19,120,887
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 3,463

Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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(CL) LRM-20 RT 6 4 5.00
Artemis V FCS RT - 2 1.50
(CL) LRM-20 LT 6 4 5.00
Artemis V FCS LT - 2 1.50
(CL) Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00
(CL) ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
(CL) ER Micro Laser RA 1 1 0.25
(CL) Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00
(CL) ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
(CL) ER Micro Laser LA 1 1 0.25
@LRM-20 (12) RT - 2 2.00
@LRM-20 (12) LT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 35
5 5 5 4 0 3 3 Structure: 4
Special Abilities: OMNI, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 2

Jellico · « **Reply #4 on:** 13 May 2017, 07:30:51 »

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Taipan
The Taipan is clearly evolved from the Viper. Outside the Interface cockpit the major changes are pod mounted jump jets, the adoption of Ferro Lamellor armor, and a Chameleon LPS. Pod space is slightly reduced. The CLPS is a notable change in doctrine brought about by the increasing firepower and accuracy of weapon systems. Fortunately, the Wolves have already broken the taboo on concealment systems.
Fast and mobile this should be a match for other scouts in service along our borders.

Taipan

Mass: 40 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 10,650,208 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,085

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 320 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
13.0 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 67 points 2.00
Internal Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT
Engine: XL Engine 320 11.50
Walking MP: 8
Running MP: 12
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00
Gyro: 0.00
Cockpit: Interface 4.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA
Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 133 9.50
Armor Locations: 2 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 12 19
Center Torso (rear) 5
L/R Torso 10 15
L/R Torso (rear) 5
L/R Arm 6 12
L/R Leg 10 18

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Chameleon LPS * 6 6 0.00

* The Chameleon LPS occupies 1 slot in every location except the HD and CT.

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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 12,334,408
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 2,335

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 8 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT 4.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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ECM Suite CT 0 1 1.00
(CL) Streak SRM-6 RA 4 2 3.00
2 (CL) Medium Pulse Lasers LA 8 2 4.00
@Streak SRM-6 (15) RA - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 7

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 23
8j 3 3 0 0 2 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

================================================================================
Loadout Name: A Cost: 12,460,408
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 2,547

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 8 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT 4.00
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 12(24) 2.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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(CL) ER PPC CT 15 2 6.00
ECM Suite CT 0 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 25
8j 2 2 2 0 2 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

================================================================================
Loadout Name: B Cost: 12,932,908
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 2,636

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Jumping MP: 8 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT 4.00
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 12(24) 2.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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TAG CT 0 1 1.00
ECM Suite CT 0 1 1.00
Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00
2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00
2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 2

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 26
8j 3 3 0 0 2 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, TAG, PRB, RCN, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Jellico · « **Reply #5 on:** 13 May 2017, 07:32:05 »

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Ice Moth

For many years, the Touman has been limited by the lack of a dedicated infantry transport. It is time to get back into the Moth business. Comparisons with the Wulfen are obvious and in many ways, the Wulfen is superior. However, the Ice Moth is considerably cheaper, just as stealthy and much faster. Tonnage could not be found to carry Ferro Lamellor armor, but the Ice Moth remains an effect scout and transport.

Ice Moth

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 5,380,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 530

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 200 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 km/h (216.0 km/h)
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
6.0 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 33 points 1.00
Internal Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 3 RT
Engine: XL Engine 200 4.50
Walking MP: 10
Running MP: 15 (20)
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT
Gyro: 0.00
Cockpit: Interface 4.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 67 3.50
Armor Locations: 1 CT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 7
Center Torso 6 10
Center Torso (rear) 2
L/R Torso 5 8
L/R Torso (rear) 2
L/R Arm 3 6
L/R Leg 4 8

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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MASC CT - 1 1.00
Chameleon LPS * 6 6 0.00
Free Critical Slots: 25

* The Chameleon LPS occupies 1 slot in every location except the HD and CT.

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 5
13 0 0 0 0 1 0 Structure: 1
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 8,822,800
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 2,024

Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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MASC CT - 1 1.00
Supercharger CT - 1 0.50
Light TAG LT 0 1 0.50
(CL) Streak SRM-4 RA 3 1 2.00
2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00
@Streak SRM-4 (25) RA - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 15

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 20
15 3 3 0 0 1 0 Structure: 1
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, LTAG, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

================================================================================
Loadout Name: A Cost: 8,957,800
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 3,218

Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light Active Probe CT 0 1 0.50
MASC CT - 1 1.00
(CL) Targeting Computer CT - 1 1.00
Supercharger CT - 1 0.50
2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00
2 (CL) ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 14

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 32
15 4 4 0 0 1 0 Structure: 1
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, LPRB, RCN, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

================================================================================
Loadout Name: B Cost: 10,024,675
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 1,514

Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MASC CT - 1 1.00
Supercharger CT - 1 0.50
Active Probe RT 0 1 1.00
Angel ECM LT 0 2 2.00
(CL) ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
(CL) ER Small Laser RA 2 1 0.50
TAG LA 0 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 14

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 15
15 2 2 0 0 1 0 Structure: 1
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, TAG, AECM, PRB, RCN, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #6 on:** 13 May 2017, 10:02:49 »

Nice job jellico!

Xeno426 · « **Reply #7 on:** 13 May 2017, 10:05:41 »

Really like these, but a couple thoughts.

You might want to turn off emoticons in the second post.

Supercharger + JJ really hits the BV; if you're mounting the supercharger, I would suggest dropping the JJs and going for something else. The ERPPC seems to feature a bit too prominently in those configurations as well: it's present in every Laughing Jack and Grand Executioner design.

On that note, what's the meaning being "Laughing Jack"? Doesn't sound very Dominion-ny to my ears; doesn't invoke any bears nor ghost/specters. Am I missing a reference?

Also, there's a notable lack of ultra autocannons, particularly the UAC/20. The Ghost Bears/Dominion rather like autocannons, particularly the big ones, and the UAC/20 is produced in the Dominion itself (as is the Series 7K ERLL, btw), and so should really feature in at least one of their designs. Maybe something like this.

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Grand Executioner (Gladiator II)

Chassis: Clan Series Assault EE Mk.III Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Heavy Force 380 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h (86.4 km/h)
Jump Jets: Pryzhok WM10
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Compound Alpha V Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
41.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Alshain BattleWorx
Primary Factory: Alshain
Communications System: Dash-2 Optima
Targeting and Tracking System: Hakkøn-Morris DP12

================================================================================
Loadout Name: C Cost: 48,123,969
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A BV2: 4,638

Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heat Sinks: (CL) Double Heat Sink 19(38) 4.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 1 LA
CASE II Locations: 1 RT 0.50
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(CL) Ultra AC/20 RA 7 8 12.00
2 (CL) ER Large Pulse Lasers LA 26 6 12.00
Watchdog CEWS RT 0 2 1.50
Supercharger RT - 1 2.50
(CL) ER Large Pulse Laser LT 13 3 6.00
MASC CT - 4 4.00
@Ultra AC/20 (15) RT - 3 3.00
Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 10 Points: 46
6 5 5 3 0 4 2 Structure: 5
Special Abilities: OMNI, WAT, CASEII, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Since the original Executioner never had it, a design with the LB-20X would also add some variety.

Otherwise good designs.

marauder648 · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 May 2017, 12:20:08 »

Very very nice designs but I do have to agree with Xeno426. The Laughing Jack name does not sound very Dominion-ey, and there's a distinct lack of heavy auto-cannons and HAG's which we know the Bear's have a love affair with. Of course there's weight and space limitations but I think that a UAC/LB20 or a HAG20/30 could probably be shoehorned into one of the Executioner variants. Otherwise, damn nice designs!

And Xeno with your design, i'd probably strip out the 3rd ER Large pulse. Two's fine, 3 might be a tad cheesy. Swap that out for some shorter ranged weaponry, perhaps a SRM rack or something to fill holes the guns make and it would be groovy.

Xeno426 · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 May 2017, 13:45:41 »

Quote from: marauder648 on 15 May 2017, 12:20:08

Very very nice designs but I do have to agree with Xeno426. The Laughing Jack name does not sound very Dominion-ey, and there's a distinct lack of heavy auto-cannons and HAG's which we know the Bear's have a love affair with. Of course there's weight and space limitations but I think that a UAC/LB20 or a HAG20/30 could probably be shoehorned into one of the Executioner variants. Otherwise, damn nice designs!

Actually, i think a HAG/40 with 5 tons of ammo could easily be filled in there. Give it an ECM, ERLL, a couple of ERML and probably fit something odd like a Plasma Cannon in there.

Quote from: marauder648 on 15 May 2017, 12:20:08

And Xeno with your design, i'd probably strip out the 3rd ER Large pulse. Two's fine, 3 might be a tad cheesy. Swap that out for some shorter ranged weaponry, perhaps a SRM rack or something to fill holes the guns make and it would be groovy.

The problem is one of crit space. If I remove one of the ERLPL, I have three crits left but six tons free. And that's after I removed the hand and lower arm actuators on the left arm. How about one of these two?

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Gladiator II (Grand Executioner) 

================================================================================
Loadout Name: C                                              Cost: 46,896,322
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A                       BV2: 4,564

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heat Sinks:         (CL) Double Heat Sink        18(36)                    3.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 LA
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00
    CASE II Locations: 1 RT                                                0.50
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(CL) Ultra AC/20                             RA        7         8        12.00
2 (CL) Large Pulse Lasers                    LA        20        4        12.00
Watchdog CEWS                                RT        0         2         1.50
Supercharger                                 RT        -         1         2.50
2 (CL) Streak SRM-6s                         LT        8         4         6.00
MASC                                         CT        -         4         4.00
@Ultra AC/20 (15)                            RT        -         3         3.00
@Streak SRM-6 (15)                           LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 46
6          7       7       2       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: OMNI, WAT, CASEII, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


================================================================================
Loadout Name: C                                              Cost: 47,951,759
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A                       BV2: 4,752

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heat Sinks:         (CL) Double Heat Sink        16(32)                    1.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00
    CASE II Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT                                          1.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(CL) Ultra AC/20                             RA        7         8        12.00
2 (CL) ER Large Lasers                       LA        24        2         8.00
3 (CL) Streak SRM-4s                         LA        9         3         6.00
Angel ECM                                    RT        0         2         2.00
Supercharger                                 RT        -         1         2.50
(CL) Targeting Computer                      LT        -         4         4.00
MASC                                         CT        -         4         4.00
@Ultra AC/20 (15)                            RT        -         3         3.00
@Streak SRM-4 (50)                           LT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 1

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 48
6          6       6       2       0      4     3   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: OMNI, AECM, CASEII, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

I rather like the second one because it keeps all the guns in the arms, so it can act as a BA ferry if need be and not lose any offensive capability.

As for some big guns...

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Loadout Name: D                                              Cost: 37,828,822
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A                       BV2: 4,663

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heat Sinks:         (CL) Double Heat Sink        17(34)                    2.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 LA
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(CL) Plasma Cannon                           LA        7         1         3.00
(CL) Small Pulse Laser                       LA        2         1         1.00
(CL) Hyper Assault Gauss 40                  RT/RA     8         2/8      16.00
(CL) Large Pulse Laser                       LT        10        2         6.00
2 (CL) Medium Pulse Lasers                   LT        8         2         4.00
Light Active Probe                           LT        0         1         0.50
Angel ECM                                    CT        0         2         2.00
MASC                                         CT        -         4         4.00
@Plasma Cannon (20)                          LA        -         2         2.00
@HAG-40 (15)                                 RT        -         5         5.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 47
5          7       7       5       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: OMNI, AECM, LPRB, RCN, HT1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 3/2/2

The very limited crit space but large pod space leads to some curious restrains; it forces the design to take weapons that take up the most mass per crit space, so pulse lasers get heavily favored over the regular ER versions.

BritMech · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 May 2017, 15:59:54 »

Interface Cockpit? Can someone give me a high level? Which book is it in?

marauder648 · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 May 2017, 16:30:55 »

The Interface cockpit is something that the WoB was working on and deployed it in TINY numbers towards the end of the Jihad. It uses the VDNI link (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vehicular_Direct_Neural_Interface ) and is also adapted from Protomech technology. The pilot sits in the Mech's chest and controls it from there, replacing the gyro as he/she becomes that.

In Experimental TRO Republic 3 the Clans show off the Skinwalker - http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Skinwalker_(Ryoken_III) which uses a development of this and seems to be the same system, combining a form of PA(L) for the pilot and the interface cockpit. We don't know if the Clans will have access to the buffered VDNI stuff but its brutal.

-1 to gunnery and piloting, before you pay any points for a Clan pilot (which usually are an extra -1 to gunnery/piloting). Combined together its a fearsomly powerful feature. For example if you was willing to spend the points on it and give the Skinwalker a Clan pilot you'd get -3 to your shooting with its primary guns. Meaning it WILL hit you pretty much no matter what you do. And it can do that at absurd range.

marauder648 · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 May 2017, 16:47:57 »

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The problem is one of crit space. If I remove one of the ERLPL, I have three crits left but six tons free. And that's after I removed the hand and lower arm actuators on the left arm. How about one of these two?

Hmm..how about removing the Endo-steel then? that way you can gobble up the tonnage and free some crits?

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:02:57 »

Tagged so very tagged

Xeno426 · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:25:44 »

Quote from: marauder648 on 15 May 2017, 16:47:57

Hmm..how about removing the Endo-steel then? that way you can gobble up the tonnage and free some crits?

Because that's not how omnimech work. You can't rip out endo-steel in an omni variant.

Besides, it'd be more useful to rip out the ferro-firbrous.

Going back to the designs, maybe name the Laughing Jack to something like Draugr. It's a Norse and death-themed name, which makes sense for the Dominion. Also, since this design is very much a zombie mech, it fits to the design's theme as well. There's also an excessive reliance on targeting computers; maybe swap out the TCs on some designs for more weapons/HS/JJs.

I would suggest putting more of the Ferro-Lamellor crits into the side torsos so the arms have more crits available to them. It forces more weapons into the arms, freeing up the torso for other jobs (like BA). Alternatively, put more of the endo-steel into the arms and remove the armoring from those actuators, focusing more weapons into the torso.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 May 2017, 22:12:14 »

Overall, too much TC - is it really needed with the interface cockpit? Standard pulse lasers are getting a -4 bonus stacked up like that...

Onikuma Prime - has no streak ammo #P.

The current weapons selections seem a bit monotone; what about Plasma cannons and ATMs?
Or AP Gauss, Micro lasers, and Heavy lasers on the smaller mechs?

marauder648 · « **Reply #16 on:** 16 May 2017, 01:13:17 »

Quote from: Xeno426 on 15 May 2017, 17:25:44

Because that's not how omnimech work. You can't rip out endo-steel in an omni variant.

Besides, it'd be more useful to rip out the ferro-firbrous.

Ahh yes sorry it was late I thought it was the base level unit :)

Jellico · « **Reply #17 on:** 17 May 2017, 09:17:23 »

ER Pulse Lasers are garbage. Gain maybe 3 hexes over a pulse laser, lose -1 to-hit, pay for it in extra heat amd crits.

Bloody Google and clowns. Laughing Jack is a common shortened form of Laughing Jackass. A common 19thC and still used name for the kookaburra. A kookaburra is the largest kingfisher by weight.

Love of auto cannon. Do we? This is as much a flanderization as any other. Historically we are looking at Storm Crows (but we prefered the LBx10 carring C), Summoners, Executioners, and Kingfisher. Oh I guess the Kodiak. Note the AC variants were mostly not the most popular and I struggle to think of a LBx20. (Ah. Grizzly 2) The FMWC RATs are illustrative despite what the same book says about big gun love.

Also Xeno. There is no evidence that the Dominion makes UACs. The Objectives only goes as deep as Mech chassis. You can make some educated guesses about equipment but it is mostly restricted to targeting and comms.
The Dominion probably DOES make UACs. It seems obvious. Possibly multiple versions though I can't think of one outside the Kodiak. (Omnis don't list weapon models) But that isn't proof positive. On the evidence available they could just as easily import them all. Food for thought when making assertions like the above.

Side torsos are tricky. They are good places for TCs and JJs so require a certain amount of free space. Also you need to pad out the engine crits. In most cases any big weapon will spread from the arms to the side torsos quite happily.

Yes, there is opportunity for many other varients. Honestly I considered just Primes. Posting 5 Mechs at once it a lot to digest without half a dozen variants each.

(SMD)MadCow · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 May 2017, 00:15:19 »

What are your thoughts on XXL engines? Do that to the Moth and you can get an extra bit for pod space while hard mounting the supercharger:

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Lava Moth 

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 14,937,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 640

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 200 XXL Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 108.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 162.0 km/h (270.0 km/h)
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
    5.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    33 points                1.00
    Internal Locations: 1 LT, 3 RT, 1 LA, 2 RA
Engine:             XXL Engine                   200                       3.00
    Walking MP: 10
    Running MP: 15 (25)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         (CL) Double Heat Sink        10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 CT
Gyro:                                                                      0.00
Cockpit:            Interface                                              4.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Ferro-Lamellor               AV -  69                  5.00
    Armor Locations: 2 LT, 1 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     6            9         
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  3         
                                           L/R Torso     5            8         
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  2         
                                             L/R Arm     3            6         
                                             L/R Leg     4            8         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MASC                                         CT        -         1         1.00
Supercharger                                 CT        -         1         0.50
Chameleon LPS                                *         6         6         0.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 15

* The Chameleon LPS occupies 1 slot in every location except the HD and CT.

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 6
15         0       0       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


================================================================================
Loadout Name: Prime                                          Cost: 16,257,500
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A                       BV2: 2,068

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CASE Locations: LA, RA                                                 0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MASC                                         CT        -         1         1.00
Supercharger                                 CT        -         1         0.50
Watchdog CEWS                                RT        0         2         1.50
(CL) AP Gauss Rifle                          RA        1         1         0.50
(CL) ER Medium Laser                         RA        5         1         1.00
(CL) AP Gauss Rifle                          LA        1         1         0.50
(CL) ER Medium Laser                         LA        5         1         1.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40)                         LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 21
15         2       2       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, STL, WAT, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

That price jump though (!!!)

Jellico · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 May 2017, 07:18:27 »

XXLs have a place. You need to watch the extra heat so the gains can be lost in HS. Obviously it works better with the bigger engines.

Don't hard mount the Supercharger. If something can pod mounted keep it in the pod. Unless you want tje flavor like the original Omnis.

Xeno426 · « **Reply #20 on:** 29 May 2017, 05:26:16 »

Quote from: Jellico on 17 May 2017, 09:17:23

ER Pulse Lasers are garbage. Gain maybe 3 hexes over a pulse laser, lose -1 to-hit, pay for it in extra heat amd crits.

I know they're pretty shit, but I wasn't going for optimal builds here. Somewhat the opposite, in fact; the Bears/Dominion have a penchant for getting designs that are... somewhat suboptimal. Kuma, anyone?
It's also why the heavy prevalence of TCs is concerning. TC + Interface everywhere feels a little cheesy.

Quote from: Jellico on 17 May 2017, 09:17:23

Bloody Google and clowns. Laughing Jack is a common shortened form of Laughing Jackass. A common 19thC and still used name for the kookaburra. A kookaburra is the largest kingfisher by weight.

Ok, everything on Google had creepy-pasta stuff. Was kind of confused.
Was there a reason you never armored the cockpit? Is there a rule preventing that on cockpits?

Quote from: Jellico on 17 May 2017, 09:17:23

Love of auto cannon. Do we? This is as much a flanderization as any other. Historically we are looking at Storm Crows (but we prefered the LBx10 carring C), Summoners, Executioners, and Kingfisher. Oh I guess the Kodiak.

Don't forget the Executioner has three versions with the UAC/20 (but none with the LB-20X, oddly). There's also the explicit quote that Dominion warriors really like their HAGs. In fact, it doesn't look like the Dominion much favors the LB-20X, what with the Kodiak 3 being mostly made for the Snow Ravens.

Quote from: Jellico on 17 May 2017, 09:17:23

Also Xeno. There is no evidence that the Dominion makes UACs. The Objectives only goes as deep as Mech chassis. You can make some educated guesses about equipment but it is mostly restricted to targeting and comms.
The Dominion probably DOES make UACs. It seems obvious. Possibly multiple versions though I can't think of one outside the Kodiak. (Omnis don't list weapon models) But that isn't proof positive. On the evidence available they could just as easily import them all. Food for thought when making assertions like the above.

Sarna lied to me!

Quote from: Jellico on 17 May 2017, 09:17:23

Side torsos are tricky. They are good places for TCs and JJs so require a certain amount of free space. Also you need to pad out the engine crits. In most cases any big weapon will spread from the arms to the side torsos quite happily.

Was just thinking of ways to add a bit more "flavor" to the design.

Oh, I also found a name that might fit better than Taipan as well: Lolo. Named after the Madagascarophis lolo, a species of snake whose common name is "ghost snake". ;)

...ok, so it doesn't sound quite as cool as "taipan", but the connections, man!

Jellico · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 May 2017, 07:51:59 »

Most of the configurations have existing equivalents which mount TC. Most of those configs were designed with dragging the last ounce of badassitude out of middling TRO3050 Mechs in mind.
At this stage cheese is a virtue. As the world expands you can tone it down to suit the environment.

You can't armour an interface cockpit.

From memory the only explicitly RD usage of HAGs on the ground were the Marauder IIC4, Huey, and Mars. Omnis are ambiguous after FM Updates because the RATs don't show variants. There is some HAG use with heavy ASF.
Where did the quote come from? I only remember the one about big auto cannon.

What does ghost snake translate to in Malagasy?

Speaking of the Taipan. I am playing with a variant with a supercharger, hatchet, medium shield, and 9 ER Small lasers. No JJs. Because space Vikings.

Xeno426 · « **Reply #22 on:** 25 June 2017, 12:56:37 »

Quote from: Jellico on 29 May 2017, 07:51:59

Most of the configurations have existing equivalents which mount TC. Most of those configs were designed with dragging the last ounce of badassitude out of middling TRO3050 Mechs in mind.
At this stage cheese is a virtue. As the world expands you can tone it down to suit the environment.

True, but it feels like pretty much all the examples have them. It also affects things like the BV, which is already incredibly high thanks to the Interface cockpit.

Quote from: Jellico on 29 May 2017, 07:51:59

You can't armour an interface cockpit.

Good to know. I'm not very up on how armoring components works.

Quote from: Jellico on 29 May 2017, 07:51:59

From memory the only explicitly RD usage of HAGs on the ground were the Marauder IIC4, Huey, and Mars. Omnis are ambiguous after FM Updates because the RATs don't show variants. There is some HAG use with heavy ASF.
Where did the quote come from? I only remember the one about big auto cannon.

It would seem my memory has failed me; I was sure I read about how young Dominion warriors really liked the HAG, but I have gone over all my TROs and a few other books and couldn't find anything.

I really hate the fallibility of memory. >:(

Quote from: Jellico on 29 May 2017, 07:51:59

What does ghost snake translate to in Malagasy?

Well, "bibilava" is snake/serpent. I don't know if you can use "lolo" with that, though, since "ghost" would become an adjective to the noun "snake", and Malagasy probably has case rules for modifying adjective vs nouns. I also don't know where the adjective goes in Malagasy; before the noun, or after?

Quote from: Jellico on 29 May 2017, 07:51:59

Speaking of the Taipan. I am playing with a variant with a supercharger, hatchet, medium shield, and 9 ER Small lasers. No JJs. Because space Vikings.

Sounds cool. Provides a wider selection of armament options for the design for when the JJs aren't needed. I feel that every Omnimech should have at least one "oddball" design that doesn't quite fit the aesthetic/design direction of the rest.