Clan Blood Spirit Enclave: Heroes of Our Time

[Sjhernan3060]

When the adders were putting the squeeze on the spirits did the spirits resort to ambush and dirty tricks as they had in the past or did they maintain zell until the end was right there

[Stormlion1]

When the adders were putting the squeeze on the spirits did the spirits resort to ambush and dirty tricks as they had in the past or did they maintain zell until the end was right there

When it came to defending there Homeworlds, everything was on the table.

[Deadborder]

When it came to defending there Homeworlds, everything was on the table.

Which, ironically, lead to their Annihilation

[Stormlion1]

Which, ironically, lead to their Annihilation

Sadly, yes. The real sad part is they told everyone that for decades before the WoR. Nobody paid attention.

[Archangel]

Sadly, yes. The real sad part is they told everyone that for decades before the WoR. Nobody paid attention.

By the end, particularly the Star Adders, nobody cared.  In fact the Star Adders welcomed any excuse to claim the Spirits were dezgra and unworthy of honorable combat, permitting them to further tear into their rivals without mercy without having to worry about granting Spirit warriors an honorable death.

[Sjhernan3060]

I recall that the spirit touman eventually became more and more protomech heavy right? Did that also transfer over to their breeding program? Did they open more proto/aerospace bloodlines to meet demand?

[wantec]

The Spirits were the ones that made the major advancements/developed the ProtoMech phenotype as its own class separate from aerospace.

[Sjhernan3060]

The Spirits were the ones that made the major advancements/developed the ProtoMech phenotype as its own class separate from aerospace.

But did that also equal a decrease in other phenotype breeding?

[Stormlion1]

I don't think so. They just created more Sibko's overall. Though with the size of there aerospace they probably just replaced the sibko's there.

[Sjhernan3060]

What Sprite Bloodlines also became proto bloodlines? Were they always aerospace bloodlines?

[Stormlion1]

I don't think we ever find out if they used just aerospace or added in mechwarrior bloodlines.

[Archangel]

The primary source of bloodlines were aerospace due to them being bred with a smaller stature and quicker reflexes and just as aerospace bloodlines continue to be a source for protomech pilots, protomech bloodlines also a source for new aerospace pilots.  Some may have come from bloodhouses categorized as 'General' or even 'MechWarrior' and 'Elemental' as bloodlines categorized as MechWarrior or Elemental are primarily focused on producing that type of warrior but many also maintain lines in fields other than their focus ie a MechWarrior bloodhouse producing elementals or fighter pilots.

[Sjhernan3060]

When the spirits totally isolated themselves on York do we think they also built fixed defenses? Where there any cast brian analogs on York?

[Archangel]

Depends.  Castle Brian analogs?  Unlikely, if there were any on York they were more than likely to have been built by the SLDF-in-Exile before the formation of the Clans.  Military facilities with fixed defenses?  Possibly especially after the Star Adders invaded in the form of forward operating bases.

[Tai Dai Cultist]

Depends.  Castle Brian analogs?  Unlikely, if there were any on York they were more than likely to have been built by the SLDF-in-Exile before the formation of the Clans.  Military facilities with fixed defenses?  Possibly especially after the Star Adders invaded in the form of forward operating bases.

It's hard to imagine that they wouldn't have built fixed defenses once they went to the ends of arming their lower castes as another line of defense.  Not sure tho on the chronology if that occurred on York or only after that.

[Sjhernan3060]

It's hard to imagine that they wouldn't have built fixed defenses once they went to the ends of arming their lower castes as another line of defense.  Not sure tho on the chronology if that occurred on York or only after that.

Right? FMCC implied that at least on york all bets were off for the sprits they would do anything to defend it

[Maelwys]

I don't think there's ever been mention of a Blood Spirit SDS. I don't recall seeing one in WoR, though its possible to overlook something. So its sort of up iin the air, what works for you game kind of thing.

[Sjhernan3060]

I have questions about the Blood Guard Keshik under their tactics it says:

The Blood Guards are equipped with heavy and assault class units, allowing them to engage the enemy in a massive charge. This berserk charge would be disastrous if attempted by other units, but the Guards skill and equipment generally allows them to succeed

So what does actually translate to? I would think they are then made up of zombie mechs which excel at mid to short range fights. Would they also have units that have jump jets and or MASC to close quickly?

[Stormlion1]

Jump Jets are a given though not MASC as they would want there gear to all advance as a wall rather than piecemeal. The Keshik used the best warriors available as well, so staying up and hitting would be paramount so I would expect Targeting Computers also to be in use in may mechs as well. Probably more Omnis than normal as well.

As for York, its almost a guarantee the Spirits would have built dug in bases for there industrial and military bases. No where near a Castle Brian but probably more like NORAD or Hesperus II with smaller fixed defenses. I could also see the Spirits putting in plenty of bunkers for there civilian castes for when the Adders came calling.

[Sjhernan3060]

Is that why the adders did the orbital bombardment at the end? Was york to built up?

[Terminax]

There's nothing in the documentation that suggests York had exceptional static defenses. The Star Adders laid waste to York because they had had enough with the Blood Spirits. That they showed up again later and did the same thing to the Blood Spirits last refuge is no surprise.

[Stormlion1]

Even a full planetary bombardment probably didn't outright kill the Spirits though, it destroyed the environment so the planet couldn't easily support life for the short term and would eventually kill off the biosphere. Essentially putting the planet into a Nuclear Winter. Which was a huge waste as York was one of the few livable planets in the Homeworlds. In enough time York (a few hundred years?) could probably be resettled and there was probably surviving industry on the planet that would 'belong' to the Star Adders. Unless the Spirits had built deep underground shelters though I doubt there were many survivors though shortly after the bombardment I could see the Spirits going from York to the Colleen system with what survivors and materials they could salvage. They may even have returned at a later date and set up a hostile environment base there.

[Kit deSummersville]

The Wars of Reaving were not exactly a time of long-term planning.

[Gaiiten]

The Wars of Reaving were not exactly a time of long-term planning.

So very Clan.

[Kit deSummersville]

Nuclear Winter, I bid a Star of OmniMechs for possession of York. What do you defend it with?

[Stormlion1]

Nuclear Winter, I bid a Star of OmniMechs for possession of York. What do you defend it with?

Nuclear Winter: I counter with darkness and cold and dying vegatation and the smell of dead amphibians.

[HobbesHurlbut]

Don't forget merciless howling winds.

[Stormlion1]

Don't forget merciless howling winds.

That gets old real fast.

[Stormlion1]

Wow, stopped in to blow the dust off and double check the lights were on. Plus to note the Blood Spirits still live! Any fellow Spirits still floating about?

[Terminax]

We're still around.