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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #60 on: 29 November 2014, 22:23:48 »
5000+ words written, only 6 divisions written up...

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #61 on: 30 November 2014, 23:33:15 »
Just realised, looking at my notes, there is a clear progression from SLDF to modern TSAF!

SLDF Mech Division
2*3 Regiment Mech Brigades
1*3 Regiment Infantry Brigade
1*3 Regiment Armour Brigade
1*Artillery Bat
54 Fighters

1st Gen Reform - 20th Division (The Wolverines)
3*3 Regiment combined arms brigades
1*Artillery Bat
54 Fighters

2nd Gen Reforms - 7th Division (Blood and Spirit)
3*3 Combined Arms Regiment Brigades
(1 Each Light, Battle and Assault)
= 6 Mech Regiments, 3 Armour Regiments, 3 Infantry Regiments, 1 Artillery Battalion, 54 Fighters or 1 SLDF Mech Division

1st Custom Formations (Horsemen, Cobra's Coils & White Ravens)

Modern Formations

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #62 on: 02 December 2014, 06:05:02 »
Over 6000 words now...

Full supremacy fleet named with all but 3 names being actual SLDF names

20th Division - The Wolverines write-up done...guess who Nicholas Kerensky married!

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #63 on: 03 December 2014, 01:03:43 »

20th Division - The Wolverines write-up done...guess who Nicholas Kerensky married!

You make me sick sir :P


(P.S. please continue the work: can't wait to see how this turns out!)

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #64 on: 03 December 2014, 01:21:23 »
REmemeber in this AU Nicky didn't get a brain disease that almost killed. That meant no crazy notions about a warrior-based society divided amongst 20 clans
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #65 on: 03 December 2014, 07:36:01 »
REmemeber in this AU Nicky didn't get a brain disease that almost killed. That meant no crazy notions about a warrior-based society divided amongst 20 clans

He didn't get Strata Mechty sick, but life during the resistance in Russia against Amaris was enough to make him odd in the head from write up from Operation Klondike.  Not looking at the book, find it strange he could become first Director General of the TSDF, since i don't think he was old enough to be a general. He'd have grown up bit more like 10 years after end of the Amaris Civil War.
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #66 on: 03 December 2014, 09:33:24 »
 O0  I am simply looking forward to seeing this being done, it's an AU after all! [drool]  keep it up! 

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #67 on: 03 December 2014, 16:08:22 »
Nick was a division commander before the death of his father in the OTL...he'd be in his 40s by 2800...

BTW current maths shows the TSAF having

100+ Mech regiments in the royal guards
140+ as part of the 63 Regular Divisions
20-40 as part of the Planetary Guard Commands (PGCs)

That's a minimum of 260 Mech regiments...

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #68 on: 03 December 2014, 16:54:58 »
that sounds low...
Good news is the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show an immediate latency of 44.6 years. So if you're thirty or over you're laughing. Worst case scenario you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you've forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #69 on: 03 December 2014, 21:50:09 »
that sounds low...

by my count there were about 486 mech regiments that went on the EXODUS...

If the SW cost them HALF you are left with 243...

 How many worlds are there in the Supremacy do we think

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #70 on: 03 December 2014, 21:51:25 »
Why Half?

the fleet dropped from 400 to 40, that's 90% losses!!!

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #71 on: 03 December 2014, 23:13:00 »
The army is easier to replace than the navy, and it is noted that the desire to avoid an arms race is a major reason why the fleet isn't larger.

Herb expressed the opinion that an army of 400 regiments for the Supremacy isn't unreasonable.
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #72 on: 03 December 2014, 23:57:34 »
The army is easier to replace than the navy, and it is noted that the desire to avoid an arms race is a major reason why the fleet isn't larger.

Herb expressed the opinion that an army of 400 regiments for the Supremacy isn't unreasonable.

Then 400 Regiments is what they shall have!

In all honesty, part of the reason for limiting them to 60 divisions of Regulars is that the TSAF have adpoted the 'ComStar Clock', applying it to the Supremacy and each MINUTE is assigned a Regular Division while each 5 minute swath gets a Royal Guard Division with the remaining (surviving) 4 held in reserve. In addition, every PLANET gets from 1-5 Planetary Garrison Corps depending on importance.

3095
Royal Guards = 96 Mech Regiments
Regulars = 210 Mech Regiments (tweeked the number of mechs in a Regular Regiment)
PGCs = 90 Mech Regiments (assuming 200 Worlds with 2 Regiment each - some have 1 some have 3 or more)

That gives us...396 Regiments of Mechs

That's just Mechs...

Rest of the military (attached to Mech Forces) works out to be something like...
498 Regiments of Armour
188 Regiments of Battle Armour Troops
2100 Regiments of Regular Infantry
120 Fighter Wings

That is pretty nasty!!!

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #73 on: 04 December 2014, 00:04:58 »
Plus there would be multiple armour and infantry brigades not assinged to mech units...

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #74 on: 04 December 2014, 01:43:35 »
And just because:


1ST FLEET - Combine Combat Theatre
TSS   Duke of York*   Mckenna   Battleship
TSS   Implacable   Black Lion   Battlecruiser
TSS   Admiral Russell Nga   Kimigure   Pursuit Cruiser
TSS   Hotspur   Congress   Frigate
TSS   Munin   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette

2ND FLEET - Confederation Combat Theatre
TSS   Prinz Eugen*   Texas   Battleship
TSS   Tirpitz   Black Lion   Battlecruiser
TSS   Conqueror   Kimigure   Pursuit Cruiser
TSS   Anchorage   Congress   Frigate
TSS   Missisipi Queen   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette

3RD FLEET - Lyran Combat Theatre
TSS   General Alexander Kerensky*   Atreus   Battleship
TSS   Admiral Girda Cameron   Cameron   Battlecruiser
TSS   White Cloud   Sovetskii Soyuz   Heavy Cruiser
TSS   Salvation   Dante   Frigate
TSS   Resiliance   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette

4TH FLEET - League Combat Theatre

TSS   Electa*   Cameron   Battlecruiser
TSS   St. Lawrence   Aegis   Heavy Cruiser
TSS   Perdition   Dante   Frigate
TSS   Badger   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Determination   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Huninn   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette


HOME FLEET - Sol System
TSS   Minotaur   Aegis   Heavy Cruiser
TSS   Sharon   Essex   Destroyer
TSS   Ranger   Lola   Destroyer
TSS   Jackson   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Mckenna's Pride*   Mckenna   Battleship

WHITE RAVEN BATTLE GROUP - Independent
TSS   Admiral Perry   Congress   Frigate
TSS   Marseilles   Essex   Destroyer
TSS   Leander   Lola   Destroyer
TSS   Jackson   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Mountbatten   Texas   Battleship
TSS   Ark Royal*   Thera   Carrier

Assigned to 1st Division   
TSS   Kharkarov   Sovetskii Soyuz   Heavy Cruiser

      
SUPPORT FLEET
TSS   Bonaventure   Potempkin   Troop Cruiser
TSS   Titanic   Potempkin   Troop Cruiser
TSS   Tenacity   Volga   Transport
TSS   Provider   Volga   Transport
TSS   Longbeach   Newgrange   Heavy Yardship
TSS   Plymouth   Faslane   Light Yardship
TSS   Portsmouth   Faslane   Light Yardship

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #75 on: 04 December 2014, 03:30:13 »
Nick was a division commander before the death of his father in the OTL...he'd be in his 40s by 2800...

In 2800, Nick was in his mid-30s, either 35 or 36 (born May 4, 2764). 
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #76 on: 04 December 2014, 04:58:30 »
In 2800, Nick was in his mid-30s, either 35 or 36 (born May 4, 2764).

Even younger them, and people supported him to be the head of the SLDF after the death of his father, so it's not unreasonable.

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #77 on: 04 December 2014, 18:30:17 »
And just because:


1ST FLEET - Combine Combat Theatre
TSS   Duke of York*   Mckenna   Battleship
TSS   Implacable   Black Lion   Battlecruiser
TSS   Admiral Russell Nga   Kimigure   Pursuit Cruiser
TSS   Hotspur   Congress   Frigate
TSS   Munin   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette

2ND FLEET - Confederation Combat Theatre
TSS   Prinz Eugen*   Texas   Battleship
TSS   Tirpitz   Black Lion   Battlecruiser
TSS   Conqueror   Kimigure   Pursuit Cruiser
TSS   Anchorage   Congress   Frigate
TSS   Missisipi Queen   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette

3RD FLEET - Lyran Combat Theatre
TSS   General Alexander Kerensky*   Atreus   Battleship
TSS   Admiral Girda Cameron   Cameron   Battlecruiser
TSS   White Cloud   Sovetskii Soyuz   Heavy Cruiser
TSS   Salvation   Dante   Frigate
TSS   Resiliance   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette

4TH FLEET - League Combat Theatre

TSS   Electa*   Cameron   Battlecruiser
TSS   St. Lawrence   Aegis   Heavy Cruiser
TSS   Perdition   Dante   Frigate
TSS   Badger   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Determination   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Huninn   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette


HOME FLEET - Sol System
TSS   Minotaur   Aegis   Heavy Cruiser
TSS   Sharon   Essex   Destroyer
TSS   Ranger   Lola   Destroyer
TSS   Jackson   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Mckenna's Pride*   Mckenna   Battleship

WHITE RAVEN BATTLE GROUP - Independent
TSS   Admiral Perry   Congress   Frigate
TSS   Marseilles   Essex   Destroyer
TSS   Leander   Lola   Destroyer
TSS   Jackson   Vincent Mk 39   Corvette
TSS   Mountbatten   Texas   Battleship
TSS   Ark Royal*   Thera   Carrier

Assigned to 1st Division   
TSS   Kharkarov   Sovetskii Soyuz   Heavy Cruiser

      
SUPPORT FLEET
TSS   Bonaventure   Potempkin   Troop Cruiser
TSS   Titanic   Potempkin   Troop Cruiser
TSS   Tenacity   Volga   Transport
TSS   Provider   Volga   Transport
TSS   Longbeach   Newgrange   Heavy Yardship
TSS   Plymouth   Faslane   Light Yardship
TSS   Portsmouth   Faslane   Light Yardship

Very nice!  O0 Probably a dumb question, but the asterisks denote the flagship of each formation, right?

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #78 on: 04 December 2014, 18:43:44 »
Very nice!  O0 Probably a dumb question, but the asterisks denote the flagship of each formation, right?

Correct!

The following ships:
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Longbeach
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Conqueror

Are the only made up names, though calling a Kimigure the Conqueror isn't much of a stretch given that they evolved into them.

Longbeach as the Faslane's seemed to be named for shipbuilding sites, so why not the New Grange class

And the Alexander Kerensky because it seemed logical that a ship would be named after the great General. I used the Atreus class as it was the only one I couldn't come up with a name for.

Every other ship name comes from a list of SL names for each ship class.

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #79 on: 04 December 2014, 18:46:28 »
Gah...just niticed the Vincent class TSS Jackson is used twice!

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #80 on: 04 December 2014, 21:53:13 »
How do we feel about this:

NAVAL RESERVES

While all of the great houses maintain some additional mothballed hulls usually amounting to 3-10 hulls, the Supremacy Reserve can quickly double the size of the fleet, enlarging it to the point where it could (convievably) engage all four remaining successor states simultaneously.

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #81 on: 04 December 2014, 22:45:13 »
Sure, why not!  They can be in mothballs for the cost of the repairs, lack of man power to it just was not economically affordable to run them.  Whatever reasons each faction could have.
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #82 on: 04 December 2014, 23:50:50 »
For one of your TSS Jacksons, how about TSS Fubuki "Snowstorm" to give a token Japanese name to your Terran Fleet.

Also, if you find another yardship, Bremerton is a good name. Better than Long Beach, which makes me think of the last real cruiser (CGN-9)
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #83 on: 05 December 2014, 00:42:31 »
And...

There are rumours that the Star League era vessels of the Supremacy have been significantly upgraded. There have been reports of Essex class Destroyers shrugging off hits that should have caused critical damage, of Sovetskii Soyuz cruisers unleashing fire from 4 times their standard Naval Laser Armament, of Mckenna Battleships swatting fighters with impunity and Vincent corvettes shooting down incoming missiles.

Most disturbing of all are the reports of coordination between warships and dropships that defies all logic. Accurate long range fire from vessels, almost as if the dropships were acting as spotters.

Utmost caution is advised in any encounter with a Supremacy Warship, such vessels should be engaged with odds of 2:1 or better.

THE TRUTH: over the centuries, as vessels were repaired, they have been improved. When armour was replaced, it wqs thickened (to the point of now mounting Double their SL era levels). Fighter scale and point defence weaponry has also been incorporated. Most significant of all was the development of Warship grade C3 systems. Based on the networking systems of the SDS system, the C3 network allows far more effective coordination between Warships and their escorts.

Yes, I know in the OTL, the DC developed C3, but it fits with the TS and SDS tech...

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #84 on: 05 December 2014, 07:46:33 »
For one of your TSS Jacksons, how about TSS Fubuki "Snowstorm" to give a token Japanese name to your Terran Fleet.

Also, if you find another yardship, Bremerton is a good name. Better than Long Beach, which makes me think of the last real cruiser (CGN-9)

Long Beach, California was know for a Naval Base with extensive shipyards.  I would think that would be a nice nod to that. I know if your not familiar with US Navy, the cruiser would be the first thing to pop up. 
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #85 on: 05 December 2014, 08:52:08 »
While all of the great houses maintain some additional mothballed hulls usually amounting to 3-10 hulls, the Supremacy Reserve can quickly double the size of the fleet, enlarging it to the point where it could (convievably) engage all four remaining successor states simultaneously.
Might even be on the low end. Everyone remembers the size of the Snow Raven fleet, but some of the other Clans had decent sized fleets as well. It'd all depend on how many of those ships survived the succession wars in the Empire Aflame universe.

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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #86 on: 05 December 2014, 14:36:49 »
The large reserve fleet, and extensive modifications might be excessive. One of the charms of the setting is that you can drop existing designs in it without modification. That doesn't really apply if the entire Supremacy Navy has to be rebuilt.

Also, there's no actual text in the original writeup to suggest the Supremacy has such a vast naval reserve, especially after arming the periphery states. It seems like awesoming up the Supremacy simply for Awesoming Up's sake.
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #87 on: 05 December 2014, 14:54:39 »
Its too bad the SLDF controlled Stefen Amaris and the Luxors didn't survive the war. They would been nice additions to the TSDF's fleet.   I'm little surprised though that the Avatar isn't in there, there were some that survived and their newer than the Aegis.
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #88 on: 05 December 2014, 14:57:28 »
The Aegis has a lithium fusion battery, thus is more strategically useful.

Also the Aegis is an Aegis, which will never die out.

Though an Avatar or two end up in the hands of other powers.
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Re: FIELD MANUAL - TERRAN SUPREMACY (Empire Aflame AU)
« Reply #89 on: 05 December 2014, 16:55:21 »
The modifacations will be in the Rukes Annex as an Optional Rule.

And yes Longbeach is named for the california naval base. (and the arena where Iron Maiden recorded Live After Death)