Author Topic: Spacecraft Dimensions - Round Two (Read 18270 times)

Bren · « **on:** 08 February 2016, 04:35:41 »

EDIT: image smaller size below - view separately or
click here to view ship image.
click here to view warship image.
click here to view warship image 2.

I'm going to try to gradually update my old ship diagrams from pixel art to vector images. I'll update in here when I can add a new one to the pile. They'll be infinitely scalable and much more versatile, suited for printing, etc.

Union DropShip and Invader JumpShip to kick things off.

Daryk · « **Reply #1 on:** 08 February 2016, 18:03:41 »

Great, thanks! I'm tagging this for the Scout JumpShip. The version I imported into Visio required a lot of clean up to remove pixilation and is still fuzzy around the edges.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #2 on:** 08 February 2016, 20:35:47 »

Any chance you could include a mech silhouette in the pictures for scale?

The_Caveman · « **Reply #3 on:** 08 February 2016, 21:09:19 »

That appears to be a 10-meter background grid, so imagine a typical 'Mech as taking up one square.

Giovanni Blasini · « **Reply #4 on:** 08 February 2016, 21:17:41 »

Tagging with great interest.

Bren · « **Reply #5 on:** 09 February 2016, 00:57:14 »

Quote from: Daryk on 08 February 2016, 18:03:41

Great, thanks! I'm tagging this for the Scout JumpShip. The version I imported into Visio required a lot of clean up to remove pixilation and is still fuzzy around the edges.

I'm not familiar with Visio. What image size, file type, etc. would you require?

Daryk · « **Reply #6 on:** 09 February 2016, 04:44:02 »

A jpg should work, and size shouldn't matter. I'll just stretch it to scale. Visio is Microsoft's diagramming program. It's a step or two above PowerPoint, but far from proper CAD software. It's what I used to create the Mark VII and Manatee deck plans posted in the Aerospace Fan Design forum.

vidar · « **Reply #7 on:** 09 February 2016, 06:54:25 »

Tag, very cool.

Bren · « **Reply #8 on:** 09 February 2016, 10:34:36 »

Leopard and Scout added (refresh page if image isn't updating).

I redid my old Leopard DropShip art to conform to Loose's TRO3057 design. It doesn't 'read' so well at such a small scale but in the interest of standardization I'll leave it for now. Also I had to fudge things a bit with the dimensions; in order for the Leopard shape to look like the TRO art - the published dimensions had to not include the vertical stabilizers.

The grid is indeed 10 metres, and I added an 11-metre tall Warhammer for kicks.

Daryk: looking at your project I thought maybe a png with no background might work better? Both posted below.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1768639/scout_jpg1600.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1768639/scout_png1600.png

Flieger · « **Reply #9 on:** 09 February 2016, 11:28:01 »

Very nice, can't wait to see more. O0

Daryk · « **Reply #10 on:** 09 February 2016, 18:37:33 »

Great, thanks! I'll take a look...

Daryk · « **Reply #11 on:** 09 February 2016, 19:16:15 »

The png is great, though I had to run it through paint to make the white background transparent. It fits the original (I suspect DS&JS) art almost perfectly, and it was MUCH less work than trying to clean that up. Thanks again!

Bren · « **Reply #12 on:** 10 February 2016, 04:38:05 »

Fury and Gazelle DropShips added.

Quote from: Bren on 09 February 2016, 10:34:36

I redid my old Leopard DropShip art to conform to Loose's TRO3057 design. It doesn't 'read' so well at such a small scale but in the interest of standardization I'll leave it for now. Also I had to fudge things a bit with the dimensions; in order for the Leopard shape to look like the TRO art - the published dimensions had to not include the vertical stabilizers.

Cancel that - I did some fiddlin' and got the Leopard into the proper dimensions.

Siden Pryde · « **Reply #13 on:** 10 February 2016, 08:49:55 »

Nice. Looking good.

Bren · « **Reply #14 on:** 10 February 2016, 19:32:56 »

Aegis Cruiser added.

Bren · « **Reply #15 on:** 11 February 2016, 21:22:27 »

Vincent and Lola III added.

Daryk · « **Reply #16 on:** 12 February 2016, 04:59:24 »

Any chance you could do the original 2750 Vincent?

Bren · « **Reply #17 on:** 13 February 2016, 14:00:54 »

Overlord and Condor added. I'll start getting their names up on there soon.

Quote from: Daryk on 12 February 2016, 04:59:24

Any chance you could do the original 2750 Vincent?

I doubt it, unfortunately, but never say never.

I still have 27 more of my old ships to 'upgrade' from pixel art, plus three more that I blocked out but never quite finished back in the day. Plus I always liked the 3057 designs a lot more. Add to that the fact there is so much more released from Catalyst since I started on this little project way back when ... someday I'd like to get to stuff like the Bonaventure and Dreadnought ...

Daryk · « **Reply #18 on:** 13 February 2016, 14:09:29 »

Ah well, I'll keep my fingers crossed then. Some of the 3057 versions were improvements, but I just can't bring myself to count the Vincent among them.

The_Caveman · « **Reply #19 on:** 13 February 2016, 15:32:51 »

An Overlord docked to a Scout must be an awkward pairing....

Bren · « **Reply #20 on:** 16 February 2016, 13:29:49 »

Merchant, Buccaneer and Mule added.

The height of the Mule matches the TRO stats, but the diameter is quite a bit less (122 in the image, 158 in the stats). If I match the diameter the Mule loses all resemblance to the art in both Dropships and Jumpships and TRO3057. I think what happened is that in Dropships and Jumpships—where the dimensions were first printed—the Mule 'width' was measured with the landing legs extended out and the leg covers extending out even further. So I just tried to match the existing art, and the diameter came to 122.5 metres.

Instead of spending time trying to make the layout presentable every time I get a new ship in there - things are going to be pretty messy/disorganized until I'm closer to being done. I'm still not 100% sure how to present everything from a design perspective in its final form. If anyone has any ideas or examples of other works that look neato I love to take a look.

Quote from: The_Caveman on 13 February 2016, 15:32:51

An Overlord docked to a Scout must be an awkward pairing....

Scout and Mammoth or Merchant and Behemoth will take the cake i think ...

Bren · « **Reply #21 on:** 17 February 2016, 14:13:17 »

Monarch and Essex added.

Takiro · « **Reply #22 on:** 18 February 2016, 14:14:09 »

Just spotted this today - very nice Bren! I look forward to seeing more.

Bren · « **Reply #23 on:** 22 February 2016, 02:43:03 »

Seeker and Star Lord added.

The way I have my files set up it's easier for me to just make two images rather than enlarge the current one - so I've got separate 'regular' ship and 'warship' images that I'll add to until the final design/organization phase.

Daryk · « **Reply #24 on:** 22 February 2016, 18:00:56 »

Don't forget to add an actual scale. I forgot to do that on my deck plans, and had to go back and reload them.

Bren · « **Reply #25 on:** 23 February 2016, 10:10:14 »

Triumph and Excalibur added.

EDIT: I should note with the Excalibur - I couldn't make it look like the Loose version from TRO3057. The shape in his design just didn't fit the listed dimensions, so I went with something closer to Knutson's Dropships and Jumpships version.

Quote from: Daryk on 22 February 2016, 18:00:56

Don't forget to add an actual scale. I forgot to do that on my deck plans, and had to go back and reload them.

For sure. As I go I'm trying to brainstorm little additions like that.

Bren · « **Reply #26 on:** 24 February 2016, 09:12:57 »

Congress and ... Black Lion.

It's been a while but finally a brand new one joins the collection.

Daryk · « **Reply #27 on:** 28 February 2016, 12:42:52 »

As I start to layout the decks of the Scout, I think I see why the (presumed) docking collar and small craft bay are 90 degrees off. It wouldn't take a very large dropship to block the small craft door if they were aligned, and 180 degrees off isn't possible due to the jump core.

Spinosapper · « **Reply #28 on:** 29 February 2016, 00:14:51 »

This is really great work. O0 Can't wait to see more. What program do you use to make this?

Bedwyr · « **Reply #29 on:** 29 February 2016, 00:58:35 »

Gracious, how did I miss this? This is *nice*.