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« on: 22 April 2016, 16:35:18 »
Heya, because I've started to redesign some Battletech mechs, I thought that I would start my own WIP thread for them as I produce rough concepts for them.

To kick things off, here is my first project, Worktroll asked me to create a few design concepts based off of some of his kit bashes. The first one being the assault class undertaker, the Bucellari! It's still very much a WIP, so any feedback or comment very much welcome!

All major components are sketched up away from each other and are not to scale, but the red lineart will show what the components will look like all together.

With that said, thanks for looking!
« Last Edit: 22 April 2016, 16:38:04 by Mech42ace »
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #1 on: 22 April 2016, 16:55:10 »
I did like the bubble cockpit, but youre nailing it so far!
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #2 on: 22 April 2016, 22:42:37 »
I did like the bubble cockpit, but youre nailing it so far!
Bubble cockpit it'll be!  O0
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #3 on: 23 April 2016, 01:38:29 »
lovely work on the legs :)  Looks great and I can't wait to see the finished article.
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #4 on: 24 April 2016, 16:24:31 »
Rough concept of the lancelot waltzes onto the battlefield weilding two UACs! Shading added to allow greater feild of depth.
On this one I added sheilds to the arms to protect the mounted weapons. Yay or nay?
Final concept coming soon, as always, feedback is always welcome!  :)
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« Reply #5 on: 28 April 2016, 16:39:03 »
Due to feedback on another forum, I scrapped the first redesign (will be kept around however) and went back and changed up the design to look less blocky, in favor of something more along the lines of the original Lancelot.
I may not be totally happy with the design of the legs however.
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #6 on: 04 May 2016, 17:45:39 »
Rough concept of the redesigned Excalibur, may decide to redesign the center torso assembly a bit, I feel it resembles the Victor from MWO a little too much. 

As for the left and right torsos, I've come up with two concepts, one more angular (1) and one more curved like the original design. (2) Which do you prefer? I was leaning towards number 2 myself.
As usual, the red boxes indicate the final proportions when it's all said and done.
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« Reply #7 on: 05 May 2016, 00:34:23 »
I think you might need to keep the pointy helmet aspect of the head structure - that should, though, remove the MWO-Victor look.
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #8 on: 05 May 2016, 00:56:43 »
I think you might need to keep the pointy helmet aspect of the head structure - that should, though, remove the MWO-Victor look.
Good idea, I'll incorporate this into the design. Will try to take inspiration from some mid-evil knight helmets as well, as the 'mech got it's name from it's right arm that resembles a mid-evil sword.

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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #9 on: 08 May 2016, 22:41:26 »
Finished concept for the lancelot, final artwork coming soon.
As usual, any feedback welcome, and thanks for looking!
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« Reply #10 on: 09 May 2016, 00:28:58 »
Looking good! :) :)
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #11 on: 09 May 2016, 11:51:33 »
Thanks and keep up the good work!  O0

Just an idea regarding the Excalibur's head and medieval helmets... you may have a look at the sallet:



More here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sallets

With its round shapes, drawn out tail and pointy-looking front I think it might be good source for a reimagined Excalibur, especially as seen here:


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« Reply #12 on: 11 May 2016, 15:09:44 »
Thanks and keep up the good work!  O0

Just an idea regarding the Excalibur's head and medieval helmets... you may have a look at the sallet.
And thank you for the feedback and the resources!
Here's what I've come up with, let me know what you think.
I was wondering what to do with the helmet's eye slit because the cockpit is where the chin is, and I've decided to leave it alone to fit the astetic, sort of like how the panther keeps the eyes of the animal it took inspiration from.

Speaking of knight inspired mechs, I've started another redesign, actually it's not a redesign at all, I was thinking of the black knight, and I thought I'd come up with a design for an assault class Black Knight. Think of it as the Black Knight's assault class cousin, the Knight! Still fleshing out the loadout. Any feedback is appreciated.
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #13 on: 11 May 2016, 15:52:12 »
this is really really good! :) Lovely design and I love that head you drew :)
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« Reply #14 on: 11 May 2016, 18:42:08 »
Apropos the Knight, my sons did introduce me to One Punch Man ... my only critique is that the upper waist section looks a little thin for an assault 'Mech. It could easily be 50% wider, which would give it (IMHO) a more "assault-ie" feel.

Re the Lancelot - looking good. I'd recommend moving the legs apart as if they were walking - eg. right foot slightly forward, left back, and torso balanced between. Hope that makes sense ;)

(The "At Attention" pose of some minis has always been a problem for me since 1984. One reason I love the plastics so much is it's soooo easy to fix that!)

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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #15 on: 19 May 2016, 13:02:51 »
Apropos the Knight, my sons did introduce me to One Punch Man ...

Re the Lancelot - looking good. I'd recommend moving the legs apart as if they were walking - eg. right foot slightly forward, left back, and torso balanced between. Hope that makes sense ;)
Lol... You caught me, quite enjoyed One Punch Man. To hijack my own thread, what did you think of it? :)

 Here's where I'm at with the Lancelot, I've traced the lineart and am about to start inking it after I add some final details. Should be ready in a day or two.

I've gotta say, raising the right leg up like it's taking a step was more of a pain than I had anticpated, from now on I'll draw the rough concept based off of how it'll be posed.  ;)

Also will have the Knight concept updated sooner than later.

As always, thanks for looking! Any feedback or comment is always welcome!
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« Reply #16 on: 19 May 2016, 15:39:49 »
Update... Just put the final touches on the inked version. Unfortunately, my desktop crapped out on me earlier this week so I won't be able to post the scanned version for a while. Luckily we're able to ship it out to the manufacturer so I'll have the final up as soon as I can but no promises... In the mean time, here is the finished lineart.

As usual, any feedback appreciated! :)
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #17 on: 19 May 2016, 23:35:15 »
The Lancelot is another favourite of mine, and I think the body looks fine. However I wish the head would be more like a medieval helmet. I know I must sound like a broken record!  ;D
It is just that imo some Mechs (Excalibur, Lancelot, Black Knight) should embrace the medieval style at least for the head. The modern motorcycle helmet-look just does not seem right for the Lancelot. (Other Mechs would look perfect with it!). For the Lancelot, I always imagined the Frogmouthed Helm, because it was a jousting helmet - and who is better for jousting with lances than Lancelot? (I know that is not the correct etymology though).


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Frog-mouth_helmets


Again, that is just my personal opinion and I am happy to see your artwork anyway.  :)

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« Reply #18 on: 20 May 2016, 00:05:37 »
It looks amazing! Great work on updating a classic!
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« Reply #19 on: 20 May 2016, 19:50:59 »
Thanks for the comments guys! Really glad you guys like it!
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« Reply #20 on: 22 May 2016, 19:26:04 »
Looks great!

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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #21 on: 13 June 2016, 21:17:00 »
Hey guys, quick question. I'm going to start redesigning my first vehicle, and I've settled on the Shrek PPC carrier. Trouble is, I think the design is great already and I can't really find any fault in it. 

With that said, if you could change anything about the design, what would it be?

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« Reply #22 on: 13 June 2016, 23:45:53 »
The Shreck is a pretty nice design, unlike other ones which have hugely obvious shot traps and lots of flat surfaces or exposed tracks and HUGE cabs, it looks like a 'proper' vehicle.

If anything i'd look at something like the Manticore



The entire front of it is a shot trap, its a hugely tall target (its like the M3 Lee of battle tech in terms of height) it seems to have a huge radiator on the front (indicating a front mounted engine) and so on.  Basically as a tank it looks like a disaster. I'd move the turret to the front of the tank, have the LRM 10 launcher be mounted on the side of the turret, not on a HUGE sub-turret on the turret itself to reduce its height.

I'd also eliminate the huge radiator grill 'deck' thing, and either cut half of it away and replace it with the turret in the front or just eliminate it entirely.

What ever you choose to do though, i'm sure it will be awesome! :) you're a great artist!
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« Reply #23 on: 19 June 2016, 23:43:54 »
Thanks for the suggestion! Here's a rough (read Very rough!) concept of what I've fleshed out for the Manticore. I ended up moving the turreted LRM to the side of the tank's turret, as well as moved the medium laser below the cannon, as well as some major astetic changes I hope should change the height of the profile.

The radiator was decreased in size and moved to the back of the tank, below the turret. I figure instead of having one huge target of a radiator, their would be another smaller radiator on the other side of the tank.

 As always, thoughts, comments and feedback always welcome! :)

Sorry I'm not able to provide a scan, the shipping company that handled my desktop goufed and dropped it. Maybe in another 6-8 weeks I suppose. #P

Before I ink it, I'll fix some geometrical errors and make sure everything is lined up properly.

If all goes well I should have another picture of the finished design by the end of this week, and I'll have a high quality scan up ASAP.
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Re: Mech42ace' art thread
« Reply #24 on: 20 June 2016, 00:20:57 »
I like it! Still a bit clunky, still has some Manticore lines around it, but less ... silly ;)
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* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
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« Reply #25 on: 20 June 2016, 05:39:37 »
I like it! Still a bit clunky, still has some Manticore lines around it, but less ... silly ;)

Agree, she's still identifiable as a Manticore but no longer looks like some matresses stacked on top of one another with a turret and tracks thrown on for good measure :)  I love the re-worked bow and the pike nose upper hull before getting to the turret. The repositioned launchers make a lot more sense too, they lower the profile a LOT but still have the full traverse of the turret to work with. 

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« Reply #26 on: 25 June 2016, 08:07:56 »
Good work  O0 The Lancelot and Manticore art were both in need of a makeover. 
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« Reply #27 on: 25 June 2016, 17:17:15 »
Good work  O0 The Lancelot and Manticore art were both in need of a makeover.
Thanks alot, appreciate it guys!
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« Reply #28 on: 02 August 2016, 15:49:21 »
Started a new project, ever since the latest Box set has been released, I have staired at the Atlas on the cover and thought "I'd really like a mini of that." So about a week ago, I started to work on Orthos so I can 3D model it, and hopefully someday get it 3D printed. I've just downloaded Blender, so we'll see just how far me and my tech incompetency can get! :D

Also, good news on the computer side of things, I rose the problem about the desktop to the maker, and they sent out a new computer as it was their fault that the computer had to be sent in in the first place. (A motherboard should last well more than a year!)

With that said, I should have the ability to scan and finish my other projects... SoonTM. As always, any and all feedback welcome. :)
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« Reply #29 on: 03 August 2016, 21:17:57 »
Love the idea of a 3d print of that Atlas.

 

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