Author Topic: Warships in the work - Commissions by PLOG. (Read 115481 times)

Intermittent_Coherence · « **Reply #480 on:** 25 April 2017, 17:09:47 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 24 April 2017, 06:32:28

That would be interesting. We never gots stats for those Mech shuttles. I'd imagine those things would have a mech bay for rapid deployment purposes. U could augment a mech having the shuddles deployed and dropping additional Mechs. They could be the smallest mech carriers inthe InnerSphere.

200T with a 100T cargo bay?

It'd be ridiculously specialised. Inefficient out of a few select mission profiles. It basically means you need a crew of 4 + gunners to get a mech with a single pilot onto the planet. The overhead is way more than the payload.

I am Belch II · « **Reply #481 on:** 29 April 2017, 07:46:25 »

Love all the work cant wait till more come out.

Maingunnery · « **Reply #482 on:** 29 April 2017, 08:11:42 »

Quote from: Intermittent_Coherence on 25 April 2017, 17:09:47

200T with a 100T cargo bay?

It'd be ridiculously specialised. Inefficient out of a few select mission profiles. It basically means you need a crew of 4 + gunners to get a mech with a single pilot onto the planet. The overhead is way more than the payload.

No guns, pure cargo spheroid. Example:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=30150.msg699016#msg699016

Intermittent_Coherence · « **Reply #483 on:** 30 April 2017, 01:31:52 »

Quote from: Maingunnery on 29 April 2017, 08:11:42

No guns, pure cargo spheroid. Example:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=30150.msg699016#msg699016

If it's intended for specialised orbital deployment, I wonder if you can cut down on crew quarters and endurance to squeeze out more acceleration.

Weirdo · « **Reply #484 on:** 30 April 2017, 10:45:17 »

Do they need the full 100 tons? Things get a lot easier if the shuttles are designed to carry mediums or even heavies, with assaults going by DropShip.

Daryk · « **Reply #485 on:** 30 April 2017, 10:59:13 »

If you go with less than 100 tons of cargo, an ASF will work just fine...

Cryhavok101 · « **Reply #486 on:** 30 April 2017, 11:10:59 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 30 April 2017, 10:45:17

Do they need the full 100 tons? Things get a lot easier if the shuttles are designed to carry mediums or even heavies, with assaults going by DropShip.

If we are still talking about the shuttles the Kyushu uses to ferry 'Mechs, the fluff says they carry two 'Mechs, so 100 tons would be two 50-ton mediums.

Giovanni Blasini · « **Reply #487 on:** 30 April 2017, 17:35:06 »

The Kyushu probably only has 2 doors for its 'Mech bays because the rules when it was first published, Battlespace, limited a ship to a max of eight launch-capable bay doors. Tonnage or type of bay was irrelevant.

Cryhavok101 · « **Reply #488 on:** 30 April 2017, 22:56:07 »

Maybe decades from now when they get around to redoing all those ships, they will put more doors on it. There is a few that could use more doors (and under current rules could have more)

Wrangler · « **Reply #489 on:** 01 May 2017, 11:15:57 »

My take on it was the 3-Mech Small Craft pre-dated the limits on the design, thus why it was set up certain way. I don't know the rules at time of Frigate (BattleSpace). I have look at older rule set figure out what or if there was limit or exception.

I think it was just a fluff thing, with additional dropships from JumpShips that came in with the WarShip.

marauder648 · « **Reply #490 on:** 15 May 2017, 16:36:49 »

Ladies and gentlemen I need your assistance. I'm trying to think of a suitable name for a (non-canon) LARGE orbital facility that would have existed in the Star League. How large? Well...

As a banana for scale the Avalon in the open drydock is 810 meters long (and that's gonna turn into some SLDF era vessel for the finished piece). So this facility is HUGE. Its a naval yard/command center and is also heavily armed and protected. Such massive facilities would be rare though, only over the most vital of worlds (New Earth, Terra etc).

But I can't think of a name for the damn thing. The first thing that sprang to mind was Fort Victoria but its kinda mehhh... so what would you folks think would be a suitable name?

Daryk · « **Reply #491 on:** 15 May 2017, 16:53:20 »

Per the Star League source book, the SLDF had around 500 bases this size (page 132 refers). That said, how about Peterson Station?

marauder648 · « **Reply #492 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:01:50 »

Oh I didn't think something this big was that common but then again the Hegemony was a post scarcity society and such mammoth facilities would be well within their capacity to build. I assumed they would be rarer, guess I guessed wrong!

And Peterson's good, but not exactly martial sounding.

Vition2 · « **Reply #493 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:04:45 »

Well if this is going to be fairly rare, I'll suggest Port Gorias. Using the same naming convention it allows for 3 more, Finias, Falias, and Murias.

The name is related to the Tuatha De Danann, in case you are curious.

Daryk · « **Reply #494 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:10:26 »

Uh, to the SLDF, it was plenty martial... Admiral David Peterson was the only Admiral to command the entire SLDF...

And here's the paragraph out of the SL SB (back before WarShips became camel cased):

"NAVAL BASES
The Star League Navy had more than 15,000 warships, JumpShips, and DropShips. To build and service them required more than 500 orbiting naval bases, each a huge collection of shipyards, moorings, and housing for sailors. An AeroSpace Wing and two destroyers were assigned to defend each naval base. When the tensions reached a high level during the final decades of the Star League, a cruiser was added to ships protecting each base."

Maingunnery · « **Reply #495 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:15:25 »

What about the Star Castle class Space Station?

The Star referring to the SL and space, and the Castle part referring to Castle Brians.

marauder648 · « **Reply #496 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:18:29 »

Quote from: Daryk on 15 May 2017, 17:10:26

Uh, to the SLDF, it was plenty martial... Admiral David Peterson was the only Admiral to command the entire SLDF...

And here's the paragraph out of the SL SB (back before WarShips became camel cased):

"NAVAL BASES
The Star League Navy had more than 15,000 warships, JumpShips, and DropShips. To build and service them required more than 500 orbiting naval bases, each a huge collection of shipyards, moorings, and housing for sailors. An AeroSpace Wing and two destroyers were assigned to defend each naval base. When the tensions reached a high level during the final decades of the Star League, a cruiser was added to ships protecting each base."

Oooh! Okay yeah that makes sense as a name, didn't know who he was. And that sounds about right for this base here. She's got a drydock, several slips and an immense grav-deck (and other rotating sections) for personnel. She doubles as a repair yard and a command center.

Redshirt · « **Reply #497 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:31:14 »

How about these ideas?

- Gibraltar Base
- Scapa (Flow) Station
- Pearl (Harbor) Station
- Singapore Base
- Sevastapol Base
- Murmansk Station
- Vladivostok Base
- Kure Station

Cryhavok101 · « **Reply #498 on:** 15 May 2017, 17:48:34 »

I second Peterson Class Station.

Wrangler · « **Reply #499 on:** 15 May 2017, 19:14:03 »

Well we certainly need image of Camelot Command (it was a canon location found by the Snord's Irregulars)

Here some other names.

Garden Reach
Darkend Dockyard

Fort Drum Deep Space Station
Star League Iron Works

Sharpnel · « **Reply #500 on:** 15 May 2017, 19:16:44 »

Call the Space Stations the Citadel-class station. Or perhaps call them the Arsenal-class.

marauder648 · « **Reply #501 on:** 16 May 2017, 01:17:15 »

I'm gonna go with the Peterson class and then they could be named after famous battles/ports

Point Kursk, Port Arthur, Midway Station etc. But the class is the Peterson Class Naval Station. So thanks for your input folks :)

Also wasn't Camelot Command built into an asteroid with a huge Cameron star, but it was mostly buried in the rock so more akin to this.

https://i.redd.it/s33fuhhu5wty.png

truetanker · « **Reply #502 on:** 16 May 2017, 07:10:44 »

I've made the Camelot Station!

Using a M-9 Pavise station on a mapsheet. Swapped out the weapons for cargo space and extra quarters.

TT

I am Belch II · « **Reply #503 on:** 16 May 2017, 08:56:52 »

Its got a Avalon cruiser in one of the docks, I could see Camelot Station with the Fed Suns naming of things.

marauder648 · « **Reply #504 on:** 16 May 2017, 09:30:03 »

Important question, does the station look alright?

Cryhavok101 · « **Reply #505 on:** 16 May 2017, 09:33:24 »

Looks good to me.

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #506 on:** 16 May 2017, 11:04:29 »

I like it but I think BT stations would be more O'Neil styled tall and thin or long and thin with lots of gravity decks and the drydocks and stores on the side

This one feels a little more treky but there's nothing wrong with it just looks like they will be in zero g for a while

Vition2 · « **Reply #507 on:** 16 May 2017, 11:30:22 »

Quote from: Dragon Cat on 16 May 2017, 11:04:29

I like it but I think BT stations would be more O'Neil styled tall and thin or long and thin with lots of gravity decks and the drydocks and stores on the side

This one feels a little more treky but there's nothing wrong with it just looks like they will be in zero g for a while

I thought this at first, but then looked a bit closer, the upper rounded section is roughly 1.5 km in diameter, using concentric rings you can end up getting a lot of potential living space. Each of the arms looks to be 300 m in diameter, fairly easily encompassing a significantly sized grav deck near major work stations.

To me, the only thing that particularly stands out is what looks to be they hydroponics arm, the one that is dome-shaped, it may be more efficient to build a semi-hollow series of grav decks holding much of the hydroponics and have a light refractory system to give them natural light for photosynthesis (though honestly natural light may not be needed in this era, artificial light may function just as well). Being based on grav decks also has the benefit of providing a more park-like setting in which to relax.

Overall though it looks good to me, I don't get a heavy Trek-like feel from the image though the whale-bone docks in the fore of the image are somewhat reminiscent. They seem perfectly functional as open-space bays, while the enclosed ones seem just fine (though I don't think enclosed bays would be a common feature on all stations - they simply aren't as necessary).

Cryhavok101 · « **Reply #508 on:** 16 May 2017, 12:21:30 »

Quote from: Dragon Cat on 16 May 2017, 11:04:29

I like it but I think BT stations would be more O'Neil styled tall and thin or long and thin with lots of gravity decks and the drydocks and stores on the side

This one feels a little more treky but there's nothing wrong with it just looks like they will be in zero g for a while

To me it looks like a group of stations linked together permanently to a main one. That's something I've done before anyway, so it doesn't really seem out of place to me.

marauder648 · « **Reply #509 on:** 16 May 2017, 12:31:30 »

I'm not sure if thats a hydroponics dome or the ATACK Computer/sensors system. On the M9 Pavise you see it mounted I think at the top - http://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/3/3f/Pavise.jpg?timestamp=20130930023230 On this one if that is a CASPAR/SDS control sensor then that's what it could be. Or it could be a hydroponic dome.

The big cluster of domes at the bottom is the reactor and powerplant whilst on the arm near the drydock there are more rotating sections, those smoothed off 'silos' are actually rotating sections, more like workshops etc.

When I first saw this I thought it more reminded me of the space stations in elite dangerous

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/elite-dangerous/images/0/0e/Military_Installation.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20170305101602

Whilst i could imagine a habitat could look like - http://i.imgur.com/nThgQYD.png