Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III

[Daryk]

Thanks for the clarification!

[marauder648]

Yes sorry for the confusion, the second tank is indeed the T-35 heavy tank.

[PsihoKekec]

Multiturret tanks, a blunder in which Stalin served as the voice of reason, telling Kotin to star building tanks instead of mobile houses with living room for every occasion.

[marauder648]

Indeed that gave the Soviets the KV-1 which was originally the T-100;



Legend goes that stalin saw model of the tank and removed the front turret and said that was better, the result was the KV-1.

[kato]

And suddenly 30 years later someone got the idea to put some more guns on something of the same weight again.  ::)



main turret
- 20x139 double-belt+magazine-fed
- 7.62x51 belt-fed
- Milan ATGM
rear remote weapon station
- 7.62x51 belt-fed
firing ports, two each side
- 9x19 magazine-fed

(and yeah, i know, the BMP came with four firing ports each side five years earlier)

[marauder648]

The SMK was a rival tank design to the T-100 and both were essentially the same. The SMK was actually used in Finland but it got disabled by a mine and had to be abandoned when the Soviets found they had nothing that could recover her.

[Matti]

The T-28 were mostly used in Finland in the Winter War and heavily benefitted from the fact that the factory they were built at was close by - there were around 200 mission kills of T-28 in Finland during those two years, 90% of which could be recovered, repaired and returned to the field.

I don't think Finnish Defense Forces used that many of them. In 1944, StuGs with long guns were the backbone of the Finland's sole Armoured Division.

T-28 was also called Postijuna = mail train. It has many wheels like a train, and one of the captured ones was carrying mail.

[kato]

They were used by the Soviets in Finland.

Finland captured around seven and operated around two.

[Sharpnel]

It still amazes me that the Finns could hold back the much larger Soviet forces.

Since the StuG III was mentioned, here's an Ausf F/F.8/G in Finnish service

[Matti]

They were used by the Soviets in Finland.

Finland captured around seven and operated around two.

Oh, you mean the 90% was recovered by the Red Army, not Finnish Defense Forces?

[glitterboy2098]

Second picture is a T-35. Probably around the Kharkov battle, most pictures in that series were taken there.

T-28, of which a whole lot more (around 500) were built:



The T-28 were mostly used in Finland in the Winter War and heavily benefitted from the fact that the factory they were built at was close by - there were around 200 mission kills of T-28 in Finland during those two years, 90% of which could be recovered, repaired and returned to the field.

I don't think Finnish Defense Forces used that many of them. In 1944, StuGs with long guns were the backbone of the Finland's sole Armoured Division.

T-28 was also called Postijuna = mail train. It has many wheels like a train, and one of the captured ones was carrying mail.

They were used by the Soviets in Finland.

Finland captured around seven and operated around two.

Oh, you mean the 90% was recovered by the Red Army, not Finnish Defense Forces?

the 90% figure is likely for the T-26 Light tank, which the Soviets deployed in large numbers during the Winter War, and lost in large numbers during said war. since the T-26 was similar to the Vickers 6 ton the Finns were using as their main tank prior to and during the war, they were able to repair and redeploy even damaged T-26's. considering their preferred tactics for dealing with tanks were the Molotov Cocktail (which wrecked the engines and cooked the crews) or destruction of the tread system with satchel charges, there were a lot of mostly intact but not mission capable tanks left behind by the soviets on many battlefields. the T-26 would continue to be a main tank for the Finns even into 'the continuation war' that occurred concurrent with WW2. though their german allies did supply them with more modern vehicles like the StuG's as a supplement.

[worktroll]

It's the Mk III thread, but let's have some Mk V Female action ... in Berlin! In 1945!





I kid you not. WWI Mk Vs sold to Estonia, captured by the Russians and used, captured by the Germans, and used (mainly as roadblocks, admittedly). MOre info to be found here

[ColBosch]

what What WHAT!? :o

[Weirdo]

You'd think a Battletech player wouldn't be as surprised by salvage... ;)

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

You'd think a Battletech player wouldn't be as surprised by salvage... ;)

Or retrotech.

[HobbesHurlbut]

This is like an Age of War Mackie being used as a roadblock in the Clan Invasion.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Well, Age of War tech level mechs were used as roadblocks during the Jihad.

[kato]

Eh, that's nothing.



This is an FT-17, originally designed and introduced in 1917.

The country is Afghanistan, which got their FT-17 in 1923; most of their FT-17 were retired during the late 50s. The eight FT-17 originally were built for France, transferred to Poland to fight in the Polish-Soviet war, captured by the Soviets and then donated to Afghanistan.

The second soldier to the left holds an AK-47, which dates the above picture to the Soviet Invasion of the 1980s.

According to Soviet claims, the communist afghan army still operated at least one FT-17 during this time, likely to have been destroyed at some point before 1992.

[Arkansas Warrior]

Hey, there's probably someone somewhere still using a Mosin-Nagant from the 1890s.

[ColBosch]

Hey, there's probably someone somewhere still using a Mosin-Nagant from the 1890s.

...the poor bastard.

[Starbuck]

It's the Mk III thread, but let's have some Mk V Female action ... in Berlin! In 1945!

... snip ...

I kid you not. WWI Mk Vs sold to Estonia, captured by the Russians and used, captured by the Germans, and used (mainly as roadblocks, admittedly).

wow!
surprising & impressive.

being born in Berlin (actually less than half a mile away from the place these pictures were taken) i have seen a lot of pictures and films about Berlin during the war time and - of course - i did read a lot about WWII, Third Reich and so on when i was younger, but i cannot remember reading or seeing anything about WWI tanks in Berlin.

so thanks a lot for these pictures Worktroll!!

[glitterboy2098]

IIRC, they were "gate guards" of the Reichstag, captured in Smolensk Russian during the Nazi Invasion. there are no accounts of their use during the battle, but the wrecks were found quite away's from where they'd been parked, and shot up pretty bad, suggesting that they'd been thrown into the fighting in some fashion.

odds are they were driven off and used as roadblocks and bunkers, but it is possible some desperate unit reactivated them figuring any tank is better than no tank.

[ColBosch]

odds are they were driven off and used as roadblocks and bunkers, but it is possible some desperate unit reactivated them figuring any tank is better than no tank.

If you ever find yourself in such a situation, please note that this is incorrect. If things are that desperate, better to throw away your rifle and uniform and head west.

[glitterboy2098]

some of the sources (largely unconfirmed sadly) suggest it might have been a platoon of Hitler Youth that reactivated them, so i suspect that 'rationality' was not high on the German military's priorities at that point.

[worktroll]

wow!
surprising & impressive.

being born in Berlin (actually less than half a mile away from the place these pictures were taken) i have seen a lot of pictures and films about Berlin during the war time and - of course - i did read a lot about WWII, Third Reich and so on when i was younger, but i cannot remember reading or seeing anything about WWI tanks in Berlin.

so thanks a lot for these pictures Worktroll!!

Being born in Canada, these pictures rocked me. I can only imagine their impact to someone who has been on that spot.

(Does that count as my 'good deed' for 2017? I can go back to sleep now!)

W. :)

[DoctorMonkey]

wow!
surprising & impressive.

being born in Berlin (actually less than half a mile away from the place these pictures were taken) i have seen a lot of pictures and films about Berlin during the war time and - of course - i did read a lot about WWII, Third Reich and so on when i was younger, but i cannot remember reading or seeing anything about WWI tanks in Berlin.

so thanks a lot for these pictures Worktroll!!

Sadly I've never been to Berlin (I want to go) but I am a Londoner and the Second World War touches a lot of our city too - the streets with random post-war buildings where a bomb destroyed the Victorian ones (at the end of my parents' back garden) as well as all of the museums


I am about to move away from London (again) to Dorset where I will be very near the Tank Museum (of the famous and real signs about Tank Museum and Monkey World which really are very close to each other!) so I will try to get lots of photos


For now, here is a picture of a cat in a cardboard tank

[Grognard]

...the poor bastard.

ummm. Hardly. the 91-30 Mosin has been given new life.



https://www.archangelmanufacturing.com/archangelaa9130mosinnagant

https://youtu.be/BBy83B5fV9s

[ColBosch]

 ;D

At first I thought Tapco had lost their damn minds, but I see this is *snort* Archangel Manufacturing? Are you kidding me!? Is that for real? Oh man, that is ****** hilarious.

Thanks for the laugh.

[ANS Kamas P81]

At first I thought Tapco had lost their damn minds, but I see this is *snort* Archangel Manufacturing? Are you kidding me!? Is that for real? Oh man, that is ****** hilarious.

http://www.cbrps.com/Mosin-Nagant.html 

I'm just gonna leave this here and get me some plastic sheeting, Gallagher-style.  Make sure you scroll down to check out the Cossack version at the bottom.

Oh hey Czech T-72s for sale.  Running but the gun's demilled and the rooftop MG's removed.  Only 50K out the door!

[Sharpnel]

Nothing beats a T-72 when your cruising through your local downtown on a Saturday morning. However, getting through the drive thru at McDonald's is a bitch.