Armored Fightning Vehicles MK III

[Kidd]

compared to the MRAPs and APCs of today, they ALL look like they've been flattened with a giant rolling pin ;D

[Fat Guy]

Most claustrophobic troop compartment of any vehicle today: the BMT-72. 



The BMT-72 uses a more compact, yet more powerful engine that the original T-72. Vehicle has an extended hull with an extra road wheel added on each side. The new troop compartment is located between the turret and engine compartment. Troops enter and leave the vehicle via three separate hatches. Depending on the situation soldiers can dismount and fight on foot or deliver fire from the opened hatches.  ::)


I'll walk thanks.   ;)

[DoctorMonkey]

Most claustrophobic troop compartment of any vehicle today: the BMT-72. 

The BMT-72 uses a more compact, yet more powerful engine that the original T-72. Vehicle has an extended hull with an extra road wheel added on each side. The new troop compartment is located between the turret and engine compartment. Troops enter and leave the vehicle via three separate hatches. Depending on the situation soldiers can dismount and fight on foot or deliver fire from the opened hatches.  ::)


I'll walk thanks.   ;)

If you need me, I'll be in the foxhole over there. Hell, I'd prefer a Mk5* or whatever the WW1 British tank with a troop compartment was called

[Fat Guy]

Close up of the troop compartment (which holds five!):



I like the rubber bladed fans in a vain attempt to combat heat from the adjacent engine.

I don't know what they were smoking at the Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau, but at least no one was stupid enough to place a production order.

[I am Belch II]

Russian designs never really cared about comfort for the crew and people to use the equipment.

[kato]

It's not that small.

I mean, i've done an extraction exercise on a Fuchs APC. One guy going through the crawl space around the running engine fighting off the "shocked" guy in the commander's seat until he could get around him to open the hatch above. Of course the vehicle driven halfway down a hill standing at a cant so that a) the access to that crawl space within the troop compartment was at two feet height and b) when going through the crawl space head first you had to crawl upwards through it. And because that wasn't fun enough they got the great idea of simulating the engine being on fire by setting off smoke pots.

[DoctorMonkey]

Russian designs never really cared about comfort for the crew and people to use the equipment.

Food shortages lead to shorter troop means smaller tanks are possible means less resources spent building tanks = win for everyone (except peasants growing up hungry)

[Matti]

Food shortages lead to shorter troop

Isn't that just a myth?

[ColBosch]

Isn't that just a myth?

No.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Isn't that just a myth?

It was actually observed along the North Korean border following the massive famine that struck the country in the 90s.

[worktroll]

APCs for the more mature figure ...



Israeli Namer, under evaluation in the US. Converted from Merkavas being withdrawn from service. I reckon nine of me could fit in that.

[Weirdo]

And for us Battletechers, they make perfect Korvins right out of the box! :)

[HobbesHurlbut]

Isn't that just a myth?

Malnutirion is a thing.  ::) It's there was a stereotype of people of Japan being "short" in early-mid 20th century, has to do with the available food for the people at large. Or that on average people are taller today than in past because we have better access to food.

[Kidd]

The more developed Asian countries in particular are seeing a certain change in physique as diets change from the traditional carb-heavy standard to incorporate more protein. Of course its still bounded by genetics, but we're just seeing now the changes that Europeans experienced a couple centuries ago: I believe the "Napoleon was short" myth came from the fact that his stature was modest compared to the modern standard, but then so were most people back then.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

It's actually been quite conclusively linked to rumors that were spread about him by his enemies.  Calling him short was a way of mocking him.

[Siden Pryde]

APCs for the more mature figure ...
Israeli Namer, under evaluation in the US. Converted from Merkavas being withdrawn from service. I reckon nine of me could fit in that.

A beautiful machine.  Too bad it is also sixty tons.  Good luck transporting that in a C-130 or A400. 

[glitterboy2098]

Israeli Namer, under evaluation in the US. Converted from Merkavas being withdrawn from service. I reckon nine of me could fit in that.

actually they are building Namer's directly now.

and that one was just on Loan to the US army during 2012. the army wasn't considering buying it, just taking it through its paces alongside the CV-9035, the M2A3 Bradley, a turretless Bradley prototype, and the M1126 Infantry Carrier Vehicle. trying to decide what features to include in the "Ground Combat Vehicle" program designs.

basically so the Army could finalize the specifications for the two competitors in the program to start getting actual designs in place.

sadly it is starting to face design issues now.. meeting all the requirements has resulted in all of the offerings being heavier than the M1 Abrams, mainly due to heavy armor protection. the armor is modular so if they equip lighter armor they can come in under the weight.. but only by not meeting the protection requirement.

haven't heard if the requirements will change, or if the design teams will be able to pull a new generation of armor tech off in time.

currently the teamups are:
BAE Systems, Northrop Grumman, QinetiQ North America, Saft Group, and iRobot
vs
General Dynamics Land Systems, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon

[Arkansas Warrior]

It's actually been quite conclusively linked to rumors that were spread about him by his enemies.  Calling him short was a way of mocking him.

I've also heard that it has to do with the pre-Metric variance in units; a French inch was slightly longer than an English inch, so when the English were told he was 5'2", they took that as him being short, not realizing that if you translated the units that worked out to about 5'7".

[ColBosch]

I've also heard that it has to do with the pre-Metric variance in units; a French inch was slightly longer than an English inch, so when the English were told he was 5'2", they took that as him being short, not realizing that if you translated the units that worked out to about 5'7".

This is the truth here.

[ANS Kamas P81]

Certainly explains the February 1812 decree from him!  "I am not short, and when we all use my measuring system, we will prove it unconditionally!"  ...I will refrain from punning on a man concerned over a measurement of five inches...

[HobbesHurlbut]

It's actually been quite conclusively linked to rumors that were spread about him by his enemies.  Calling him short was a way of mocking him.

It was the Imperial - Metric conversion snafu. When they translated his height number into British system, it was done wrong and showed him being shorter than he actually was.

[Vykromod]

On top of the French inch thing, Napoleon's bodyguard unit consisted of big guys. It made him look small in comparison despite him being pretty much the average height for the day.

[qc mech3]

The reason I learned long ago was the difference between a french foot (13 inches) and an English one (the now standard 12 inches), like AW said. It's also good propaganda to make your enemy an unstable dwarf.  #P

I think the introduction of the metric system came later when he decided to optimize the logistics of ''la grande armée''.

[Arkansas Warrior]

Historically inaccurate as it would be, I would like to see Peter Dinklage cast as Napoleon in a movie, especially if it was a more comedic take.  That'd be pretty funny.

[glitterboy2098]

Historically inaccurate as it would be, I would like to see Peter Dinklage cast as Napoleon in a movie, especially if it was a more comedic take.  That'd be pretty funny.

in the vein of timebandits? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Bandits

[marauder648]

Armored Light Infantry Light Tank and Supply Tank (UK) Apparently.  Never seen it before today.

More info about it here - http://weaponews.com/weapons/12396-armored-light-infantry-light-tank-and-supply-tank-uk.html

[Sabelkatten]

Ugh, I wish the guy who wrote that article knew English grammar...

[worktroll]

There's a fine line between camoflauge, and ... something else.

[vidar]

I believe with hight that is the only way to get cam on that.  Burry it up to the top of the hull.

[Fat Guy]

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