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Sjhernan3060

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Conversion ideas
« on: 27 March 2017, 15:08:56 »
I love the Woodsman Omni mech but dislike its chicken arms and have similar gripe with the KingFisher omni. Does this group have suggestions on which omni parts/pods would fit well to make alternate configs? For reference here are the models I am looking to modify:

http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=8522

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http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=1937

Basically which arms from other mechs will fit to make a beefier looking model?

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #1 on: 28 March 2017, 13:12:14 »
Have you looked at the omnimech parts section yet?  Plenty of choices there.  I think its roughly the same size as the current sculpts of the assault omnis so you will have alot of good choices.

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #2 on: 28 March 2017, 14:16:13 »
I have and I am thinking the Madcat or Ryoken parts would be my best bet but I am not sure...

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #3 on: 28 March 2017, 15:49:16 »
I think you will end up having to build up the shoulders depending on which weapons you choose.  I'll be posting pictures in the Gladiator/Executioner thread after work showing off some custom weapons builds representing different omni loadouts and some custom ones.  What you could do is cut the arms at the elbow region and then attach the desired weapon if you don't mind keeping the shoulders as-is.

Otherwise what loadouts are you considering?  I can look at my Kingfisher and Woodsman and make a better guess at arm matching later on.

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #4 on: 28 March 2017, 21:08:24 »
Actually it would be two ppc arms for both! Or just a beefier looking omni pod that I could mount on them. As these two designs are zombie like I want them to be bulky and tough looking

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #5 on: 30 March 2017, 15:29:47 »
So looking for ppc arm suggestions

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #6 on: 30 March 2017, 15:49:09 »
Maybe the original omni assault arms.  The Woodsman is easier to utilize the pod arms than the Kingfisher because of the mini design.  The Highlander has a nice thick arm design that I've used as a mod basis but does require some sawing and modding to utilize another gun that could work for the Woodsman.

The Kingfisher is harder to mod with sufficiently thick shoulder attachment points.  But perhaps the usual PPC pods or the UAC could work if you could scratchbuild or modify how it gets attached.

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #7 on: 30 March 2017, 21:08:17 »
Would the warhammer iic arms be too big for the kingfisher?

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #8 on: 31 March 2017, 09:50:43 »
The scale is way off.  I didn't realize how small the Kingfisher was until I took mine out of storage to check

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #9 on: 31 March 2017, 11:53:04 »
First off thanks!

And wow the Kingfisher is small! For what I have read its this lumbering brute of mech - and we clearly need a new sculpt. How do I submit this for fan financing?

In the short term could I cut up a Thor or Madcat omni pod to make the PPC's? If so which ones?

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #10 on: 31 March 2017, 19:45:46 »
Hmm going over the sculpt size of the Kingfisher  you might be better off modding the arms of the medium omnis like the Fenris or Uller.  The Blackhawk's PPCs are pretty much the same as the Thor or Mad Cat so would be out of scale.  The Puma prime might work too.

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #11 on: 31 March 2017, 20:49:49 »
Yup I am right there with you! Ordering some and will post pics

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #12 on: 12 April 2017, 10:33:45 »
The scale is way off.  I didn't realize how small the Kingfisher was until I took mine out of storage to check

If I cut off the legs at the hips and used another mechs hip joints or even legs what would you recommend?

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #13 on: 12 April 2017, 15:28:28 »
That's a good question, I'm not sure making it taller, without bulking out the body as well would work.  Plus adding larger arms and legs might end up giving it really odd proportions. 

If I cut off the legs at the hips and used another mechs hip joints or even legs what would you recommend?

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #14 on: 12 April 2017, 20:51:05 »
Two exellent pieces of work in terms of improving the Kingfisher:

JimDiGris modded this one into a more dynamic version:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=43140.msg993019#msg993019

While IAmClanWolf went the whole conversion path:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=48974.msg1131029#msg1131029

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #15 on: 13 April 2017, 10:56:33 »
Great find!

Two exellent pieces of work in terms of improving the Kingfisher:

JimDiGris modded this one into a more dynamic version:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=43140.msg993019#msg993019

While IAmClanWolf went the whole conversion path:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=48974.msg1131029#msg1131029

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #16 on: 20 April 2017, 12:08:21 »
I have a king fisher on its way in the mail but I was also wondering if I could just modify another model such as:

http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=9334

To represent another config of it

Thoughts?

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Re: Conversion ideas
« Reply #17 on: 20 April 2017, 19:57:33 »
The beauty of battletech is that is can be a game of proxies.  If you can take a mech and modify enough to look like another, unless you have a very rules/wysiwyg opponent, it really doesn't matter. 

Taking your Rifleman III there,  as a side example, i converted the Primative Rifleman to the 1N spec in terms of weapons and overall looks.  I've also converted a later model Atlas to look like an Atlas II, and have plenty more examples.

Many builders on this board for example have scratchbuilt the humble Marauder out of countless other mechs, including non-btech sources like CAV.

So yeah, get your mod on and I'm very sure many of us are looking forward to your work!

I have a king fisher on its way in the mail but I was also wondering if I could just modify another model such as:

http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=9334

To represent another config of it

Thoughts?