Author Topic: Von Luckner campaign upgrade  (Read 1679 times)

Kartr_Kana

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Von Luckner campaign upgrade
« on: 22 May 2017, 17:12:48 »
Currently playing a Dark Ages era campaign and I've got enough resources set aside that I can upgrade my two Von Luckner tanks. Here's what I was thinking:

Von Luckner Heavy Tank VNL-K70u

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3134
Cost: 13,448,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,444

Power Plant: VOX 300 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor: StarSlab/4 Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Gauss Rifle
    1  MML-9
    1  Machine Gun
    1  Improved C3 Computer
    1 Unknown Targeting Computer
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer: HartfordCo Industries
    Primary Factory: Bryant (destroyed 2840)
Communications System: O/P 300
Targeting and Tracking System: O/P GRNDSTAT 50A

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                7.50
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                      14.50
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.50
Armor:              Heavy Ferro-Fibrous          AV - 228                 11.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     55       
                                          Left/Right   45/45       
                                              Turret     46       
                                                Rear     37       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Gauss Rifle                                  T         1         1        15.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
MML-9                                        T         5         1         6.00
Improved C3 Computer                         BD        0         1         2.50
Targeting Computer                           BD        -         1         4.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@Gauss Rifle (24)                            BD        -         0         3.00
@MML-9 (SRM) (11)                            BD        -         0         1.00
@MML-9 (LRM Semi-G) (26)                     BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      8    Points: 14
4t         3       3       3       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: C3I, CASE, MHQ2, TUR(3/3/3), IF 1


Thoughts?

Sabelkatten

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Re: Von Luckner campaign upgrade
« Reply #1 on: 23 May 2017, 03:26:16 »
Energy weapons. Always energy weapons!

At the very minimum replace the MG with a SPL. I'd also downgrade the MML for an ERML.

Kartr_Kana

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Re: Von Luckner campaign upgrade
« Reply #2 on: 23 May 2017, 12:59:49 »
Energy weapons on combat vehicles seems largely wasted since the tonnage benefits go away quickly.

Sabelkatten

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Re: Von Luckner campaign upgrade
« Reply #3 on: 23 May 2017, 15:12:15 »
2 tons give you a pair of 5-point hits out to 12 hexes. That's almost as much as 12 tons for a pair of LAC/5s. 10 free heat sinks with an XLFE, remember?

Iron Grenadier

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Re: Von Luckner campaign upgrade
« Reply #4 on: 24 May 2017, 08:36:08 »
We've been using Von Luckner's for a while in our game, and had a lot of success with them.

While I'm not at all familiar with the Dark Age, I might try a 225 XL, drop the electronics and see about adding an Armored Motive System.

If you have anything left over, then I might dump it into a light weapon or even more armor.

tomaddamz

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Re: Von Luckner campaign upgrade
« Reply #5 on: 11 June 2017, 16:41:08 »
My thought,

Lose the MG, it's wasted mass with the MML, load 1 ton of any type of SRM APERS (inferno or frag)

Without the armored motive system be prepared to get parked.  You are too heavy to be mobile, the 300XL feels extravagant.

The MML-6 is the right choice to compliment the Gauss Rifle. You get the damage at range to bump the Gauss to 20+ and the SRMs crit seek the big holes the gauss left. 
Now normally (for me at least) more, and cheaper beats high tech but the 2 ER Medim Lasers are excellent here as they cover the gap ranges so no matter the target is at the threat of catching 20 points of damage is ever present.

I'm concerned about the mass dedicated to the Targeting Computer. I may be more inclined to go with ECM and a pack of VGLs with smoke.

Again my thoughts here.

Saying that because the equipment isn't up-to-the-minute, bleeding-edge tech therefore not a threat is like saying an M2 Browning isn't dangerous to modern infantry because it is 100 years old.