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Whats a good SRM boat?
« on: 24 May 2017, 13:59:41 »
I'm using the butterbee catapult (4 x SRM 6), but the heat issues are killing me.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #1 on: 24 May 2017, 14:09:14 »
Try the Dervish 9D.
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #2 on: 24 May 2017, 14:14:02 »
The Arctic Wolf is chock full of SRMs, and a Narc Beacon.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #3 on: 24 May 2017, 14:41:21 »
isnt there a 3050 MadDog/Vulture with 6-SRM6s?
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #4 on: 24 May 2017, 14:50:27 »
SRM Carrier, Harrasser, Pegasus, Cavalry.... Did you want 'Mechs specifically? What era are you looking for? Tech base? Any other requirements (speed, size, etc)?

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #5 on: 24 May 2017, 15:08:38 »
SRM Carrier, Harrasser, Pegasus, Cavalry.... Did you want 'Mechs specifically? What era are you looking for? Tech base? Any other requirements (speed, size, etc)?

Mechs, 3080 and earlier, prefer mobility, like runs over 6, IS only.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #6 on: 24 May 2017, 15:12:11 »
The Dervish 9D moves 5/8/5 with 20 MML tubes and four MLs tied to a TC. All sorts of missile fun.
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #7 on: 24 May 2017, 15:49:42 »
Also look at Javelins

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #8 on: 24 May 2017, 17:32:56 »
 See the mech of the Fortnight also.  The Commando

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #9 on: 24 May 2017, 17:39:55 »
If you want something big and hefty for the job, the new Juliano is a bit too new for your use, but you could justify a prototype (or at least build an Omni config based on it). 24 Streak SRMs per turn is nothing to sneeze at.

If you don't mind doing a bit of customization, the AXM-2N Axeman makes a fine SRM boat if you replace the LRM-15s with four SRM-6s- even have a bit of spare room for a couple of heat sinks. So a large pulse laser, four SRM-6, three medium lasers, and- if you prefer over the lasers- follow up with a smack from an axe. It runs a bit warm, no doubt, and could use a bit more work (I like to replace the LPL with a standard PPC, then move it to the right arm and the mediums to the left), but it's a remarkably handy little monster.

Oh- and if you are okay with a hovercraft here and there, the Plainsman is simply bliss. Two SRM-6 in a turret, and an SRM-2 that one will enjoy putting smoke or inferno rounds in for a little extra fun, and on a fast, surprisingly tough little frame.
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #10 on: 24 May 2017, 17:46:48 »
I've grown fond of the AVL-1O Avalanche. Like the Juliano, you can argue a prototype or two of it being around. Perhaps the Novacats had it on file, but weren't really willing to dip to IS tech grade 'mech production just yet or something. Or, as Hellbringer said, you can borrow the configuration for another Omni.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #11 on: 24 May 2017, 20:51:42 »
While I'm a fan of the classic JVN-10 Javelin, my preferred platform for vomiting SRMs is the D configuration of the Linebacker. The Mad Dog A mentioned above is also a fun mech.

If speed wasn't a necessity, there's some MML variants of the Longbow that heap on the SRMs. On the faster side, the Inner Sphere Raptor omnimech in configuration B has three SRM-6s moving at 7/11.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #12 on: 24 May 2017, 21:13:24 »
With mechs over 6/9, the Javelin and Commando are pretty much the low hanging fruit, but both are solid. 

Two other things to consider:

I do think hovers in this role can work brilliantly, if the idea is to race in to finish off damaged mechs.  Something like the Plainsman is quite cheap and cheerful, but still has the power of those light mech SRM carriers but more speed (at the expense of a bit more vulnerability). 

The other is to think about MML mechs.  While a SRM carrier is limited to being an infighter, an MML mech can be a support mech, shoot as it closes, and then when the moment is right unleash a massive SRM barrage.
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #13 on: 24 May 2017, 21:25:08 »
A few oddball choices. Few of them are true SRM boats, but most of them have an element of missile spam + options

Argus 6F
Crossbow 9A
Daikyu 02
Griffin 2N
Kabuto 7A
Kintaro 19b or 21
Mjolnir BX
Ostwar 2Mb
Raptor B
Ronin RN
Snake 1V
Strider E
Trebuchet 5S
Wolverine 8C or 9D

If speed wasn't a necessity, there's some MML variants of the Longbow that heap on the SRMs. On the faster side, the Inner Sphere Raptor omnimech in configuration B has three SRM-6s moving at 7/11.

yes, don't forget about MMLs

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Battle Cobra E (IS version)
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Buccaneer 6W
Dervish 9D
Hellspawn 10G
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Strider G
Trebuchet 8B
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #14 on: 24 May 2017, 21:45:43 »
yes, don't forget about MMLs

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Battle Cobra E (IS version)
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What? No MML Yeoman!?! The YMN-10-OR even jumps!
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #15 on: 24 May 2017, 21:50:21 »
Oh- and if you are okay with a hovercraft here and there, the Plainsman is simply bliss. Two SRM-6 in a turret, and an SRM-2 that one will enjoy putting smoke or inferno rounds in for a little extra fun, and on a fast, surprisingly tough little frame.

I like the SRM variant of the Drillson as well. Sure, it's only 12 short ranged missiles coming at you, but it's also backed up with a nice large laser.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #16 on: 24 May 2017, 21:54:36 »
What? No MML Yeoman!?! The YMN-10-OR even jumps!

OP was looking for faster than 4/6. Otherwise, hit me with that sexy boombox every time

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #17 on: 24 May 2017, 22:06:52 »
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #18 on: 24 May 2017, 23:33:06 »
It's a shame the Butterbee didn't get a upgrade like the Sparky but other brawlers exist.   

If you can part from SRMs, the Penetrator 4D can be brutal 4/6/4 heavy with 6X MPLs.  The 6T with 6X ER ML + Targeting Computer is a favorite of mine.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #19 on: 25 May 2017, 07:57:14 »
It's a shame the Butterbee didn't get a upgrade like the Sparky but other brawlers exist.   


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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #20 on: 25 May 2017, 08:39:58 »
It's a shame the Butterbee didn't get a upgrade like the Sparky but other brawlers exist.   


http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7365/catapult-cplt-c1-butterbee-2
But AS stats only, there's no RS.  And it switched to either Streaks or Artemis (along with double heat sinks), since it lost the SRM special ability.  I don't recall, but I would guess massed Streak SRM-2s (8?).
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #22 on: 26 May 2017, 19:44:59 »
Over 6 darn that eliminates the SRM hunchback.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #23 on: 26 May 2017, 22:39:13 »
JES I Tactical Missile Carrier
3x6 and 4x4 SRMs on a 5/8 or 8/12 hovertank. Perfect deliver method.
As for mech Longbow 13C- thats 6x7 MML's and it goes 4/6!

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #24 on: 26 May 2017, 22:51:25 »
JES I Tactical Missile Carrier
3x6 and 4x4 SRMs on a 5/8 or 8/12 hovertank. Perfect deliver method.
As for mech Longbow 13C- thats 6x7 MML's and it goes 4/6!

I tend to very, very wary of a hovercraft that moves that slow (and the art drives me insane- why are the SRM-6's warheads that much bigger than the SRM-4s!?!?!?) but that's a whole world of hurt flying out at anyone in the forward arc. It's a tricky one to use compared to a Plainsman or Pegasus, but the firepower boost may justify it in some cases over its older cousins in some cases... I always think of it as thriving in situations where you want the terrain bypassing abilities of a hovercraft (water, etc.) without as much need for blinding speed- something like Norway's fjords, for example.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #25 on: 27 May 2017, 01:50:36 »
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7365/catapult-cplt-c1-butterbee-2
But AS stats only, there's no RS.  And it switched to either Streaks or Artemis (along with double heat sinks), since it lost the SRM special ability.  I don't recall, but I would guess massed Streak SRM-2s (8?).
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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #26 on: 27 May 2017, 07:11:12 »
The thing is that with enough JES I carriers you dont need to worry about speed, because  the shear amount of smoke you can pop every turn will blot out any LOS. This allows you to easily advance and then drown your enemy in warheads.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #27 on: 27 May 2017, 13:02:58 »
The other thing about the JES I is that it carries ammo bays only deep enough for one ton of alternate ammo per missile type.  So you are either gimping your damage potential endurance in half of having to cover a large amount of space with a slow hover tank that hopefully you are going to be running in a straight line.  The JES I is simply not very good in the majority of situations.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #28 on: 27 May 2017, 13:08:53 »
You might want to consider the Daedalus DAD-3C.  It is lightly armored, but has 2 SRM 4s and an SRM 6.  The speed of a P-Hawk and a LPL.  It won't give enough tonnage for alternate munitions and standard munitions, but 14 SRM tubes is pretty good for 45 tons.

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Re: Whats a good SRM boat?
« Reply #29 on: 28 May 2017, 07:42:30 »
The JES I also has an upgrade which doubles the speed or some nonsense like that: on my phone at works terrible wifi or I'd post the link stats and actual stuff