AS stats for Union, Leopard, Vengeance

[Tai Dai Cultist]

I've been preparing an abstract space battle for AS and I'd like to submit a few conversions to extra eyeballs.

Vengeance (3056 upgrade)
TP: DA SZ:3 MV: 4a  PV:62
Nose: 2/2/3/0
Wing: 1/1/1/0 ENE
Aft:     11/14/14/0 LRM:2/5/7/0
Armor/Structure: 21/6 TH:2
Specials: SPC, SLG, AT40-D8, ST3-D0, CT185-D4

Union (3055 upgrade)
TP:DS SZ:2 MV:3p PV: 61
NOSE:11/14/13/0 LRM:2/5/5/0
SIDE:4/4/4/0   LRM:0/1/1/0
AFT:   3/3/2 ENE
Armor/Structure: 21/6 TH: 2
Specials: SPC, VLG, AT2-D2, MT12-D12, CT72-D1

Leopard (3056 upgrade)
TP:DA SZ:1 MV: 4a PV:70
Nose:5/6/6/0 LRM:0/2/2/0
Wing:3/4/4/0 LRM:0/2/2/0
Aft:   2/2/1/0 ENE
Armor/Structure: 16/4 TH:1 TH:2
Specials: SPC, LG, MT4-D4, AT4-D2, CT72-D0

Something definitely seems off on the Leopard, I can't figure out why it comes out ahead of the Union on PV but I ran the numbers 3 times.... I must be doing some step wrong somewhere.

EDIT: Running the conversion stats again for the Leopard, I did catch that I rounded Threshold value normally instead of up, so there's a minor error found.

[Vulp]

While waiting for official dropship stats, I wrote a bit of code to convert all of the dropships that have stats in MegaMek to alpha strike stats, to get a rough sense of how the abstract aero rules work for dropship landings and planetary assaults (also to help with building strategic-level stats for the IntOps beta).  This was definitely a rough pass for private usage, and is not a full implementation of the conversion rules -- I am sure that the numbers that I'm using are slightly off from official sources, likely due to slight differences in algorithms and rounding.

I've included excerpts from my calculations for the units mentioned above.  While they don't match up perfectly, they are close, and some of the same issues you noted are also apparent:

• The Vengeance is really a PV bargain since, being an Aerodyne, it doesn't pay for those rear-arc weapons.
• Leopards do cost more than Unions. This is the other side of the Aerodyne coin: nose and wing weapons are more expensive than they are on spheroids.

One question on your stats -- can you point out where in the ASC it mentions that weapon specials are computed per-arc?  This definitely makes sense, but my current code computes these all together (missed something in the text, or more likely, just reused the code I had for calculating specials on 'mechs/vees).

Unit stats below (can PM the full list if there is interest):

Element	Type	Size	MP	Armor	Structure	Short Damage	Medium Damage	Long Damage	OV	PV	Abilities
Leopard (3056)	DA	1	4a	17	4	5/3/3/3	6/4/4/3	4/3/3/1	0	69	IF4    LRM 2/4/4
Union (3055)	DS	2	3p	21	6	11/4/4/4	15/5/5/4	13/4/4/2	0	64	IF10 LRM 5/10/10
Vengeance (3056)	DA	3	4a	21	6	3/2/2/13	3/2/2/17	2/1/1/12	0	67	AC 0/1/1    IF1    LRM 0/1/1

[Descronan]

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong here, but this is what I got:

Leopard (3056)
PV: 82
SZ: 1
MV: 4a
Nose: 5/6/4/0 (IF2, LRM1/2/2)
Side: 4/4/4/0 (IF2, LRM1/2/2)
Aft: 3/3/1/0
A/S: 17/4
TH: 2

Union (3055)
PV: 108
SZ: 2
MV: 3a
Front: 5/7/6/0 (IF4, LRM2/4/4)
Side: 6/8/7/0 (IF4, LRM2/4/4)
Aft: 2/1/1/0

[Alexander Knight]

                              Type   SZ    MV   ARM  DT    ST                                    PV                       SPC
Vengeance (3056)   DS   3   4a   21   7   6               58   AT40D8,CT185,LG,SPC,ST3D4,VSTOL
Vengeance (3056) Nose                  STD   3   3   2   -      
Vengeance (3056) Wing                  STD   2   2   1   -      ENE
Vengeance (3056) Aft                          STD   11   15   10   -   

Union (3055) DS   2   3p   21   7   6               59   AT2D2,CT72,MT12D4,LG,SPC
Union (3055) Bow                  STD   11   14   12   -      
Union (3055) Side                  STD   4   5   4   -      
Union (3055) Stern                  STD   4   4   2   -      ENE
   
Leopard (3056)   DS   1   4a   17   6   4               68   AT2D2,CT72,MT4D4,LG,SPC,VSTOL
Leopard (3056) Nose                  STD   5   6   4   -      
Leopard (3056) Wing                  STD   3   4   4   -      
Leopard (3056) Aft                  STD   3   3   1   -      ENE


The only difference between the Leopard and the Leopard CV is replace AT2D2 and MT4D4 with AT6D6.