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Wikkid

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Scales.
« on: 01 March 2015, 07:36:11 »
I have had to remove the post due to tptb objecting to me pasting an article from another source (credited appropriately).

Unfortunately, the original article was on FaceBook. As the FaceBook app I am using on my tablet does not allow me to link to the article (as I have been requested to do) I have no option but to remove it, before tptb delete the thread and issue me with a warning.
« Last Edit: 03 March 2015, 04:45:28 by Wikkid »
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #1 on: 01 March 2015, 09:32:17 »
Wikkid...

Awesome info...I don't want to copy & past, and take away credit from you for this, so would you mind posting it in my forums too? If so...can you drop it in the section "Battletech Universe", sub-section "General Discussion"?

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Re: Scales.
« Reply #2 on: 01 March 2015, 09:34:31 »
Can you add in the railroad model scales too?  For example, like N and O scales.

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Re: Scales.
« Reply #3 on: 01 March 2015, 10:01:56 »
Can you add in the railroad model scales too?  For example, like N and O scales.
and HO NN Z

i think NN is used in japan exclusively
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #4 on: 01 March 2015, 11:24:26 »
Wikkid...

Awesome info...I don't want to copy & past, and take away credit from you for this, so would you mind posting it in my forums too? If so...can you drop it in the section "Battletech Universe", sub-section "General Discussion"?

Thanks!

Hi Dragon.

I don't mind, but please credit as at the beginning of the post, not me.

Many thanks.
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #5 on: 01 March 2015, 11:47:53 »
Wikkid that is a great article and truly explains a lot. Thank you

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Re: Scales.
« Reply #6 on: 01 March 2015, 12:50:01 »
Can you add in the railroad model scales too?  For example, like N and O scales.

That's an awesome idea!
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #7 on: 01 March 2015, 22:43:39 »
Can you add in the railroad model scales too?  For example, like N and O scales.
O scale is 1/48
S scale (not used much) is 1/64
HO scale is 1/87 (approximately)
N scale is 1/160
Z scale is 1/220
1/48, 1/32 and 1/72 scales are commonly used for model airplanes. 1/72 is most common for model armor.
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #8 on: 02 March 2015, 13:10:58 »
To add further confusion, H0, 00, O, N, Z or ZZ are not exactly "scales" either, they are gauges. Originally they were designating the track measurments, I believe.


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Re: Scales.
« Reply #9 on: 02 March 2015, 14:55:48 »
To add further confusion, H0, 00, O, N, Z or ZZ are not exactly "scales" either, they are gauges. Originally they were designating the track measurments, I believe.
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #10 on: 02 March 2015, 15:43:21 »
To add further confusion, H0, 00, O, N, Z or ZZ are not exactly "scales" either, they are gauges. Originally they were designating the track measurments, I believe.
Some are, it's true. HO is actually defined as 3.5mm to the foot (crazy way to do it, isn't it?), which is why I said "approximately 1/87 (it's actually 1:87.0857), although NMRA standards specifies the track gauge to be 16.5mm (to represent 56.5" standard gauge), making the ratio 1:86.9758). So, approximately 1/87. O gauge/scale is usually 1:48, and that is the scale most O gauge railway equipment is manufactured as, but Lionel and others have always used a 1.25" gauge, which is oversize (the same as Russia uses, I believe, representing 5' wide gauge). Thus, some fine scale modelers make their equipment 1:45.2, making the gauge standard. But you won't find any model structures and such in that scale.

The same thing happens with N gauge/scale. The 9mm track gauge ends up with a scale of 1:148 track scale in Great Britain, but US uses 1:160, and to my knowledge, all N gauge equipment is manufactured as 1:160 scale. Z scale is actually 1:220, or 1.385mm/ft, which is pretty much the same, and for all practical purposes, the gauge is correct for it.

Looking up "HO Gauge", or any of the "XX Gauges" in Wikipedia will redirect to "HO Scale".
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #11 on: 02 March 2015, 16:08:59 »
The original article can be found here: https://gcmini.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/wargaming-scales-do-you-know-where-they-came-from/

Here is the end with scales:

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3mm = 1/600th scale
6mm = 1/285th scale (some say 1/300th scale)
10mm = 1/160th scale
12mm = 1/144th scale
15mm = 1/100th scale (some say 1/110th scale)
20mm = 1/72nd scale (some say 1/76th scale)
28mm = 1/64th scale

With these conversion factors, model makers can accurately make vehicles and structures in wargaming scales. We can only wish that the figure makers used these same scales instead of the “that looks about right” rule.

I want to personally thank Wikkid for the article, it's very interesting and has a lot of useful information. We apologize for any confusion regarding the original post, Rule #11 asks that an entire source not be copy and pasted but a link be used with a small quote instead.
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Re: Scales.
« Reply #12 on: 03 March 2015, 10:31:34 »
One way to think of it is that 6mm=1 man height.  Honestly, 1/285th scale is 1mm=1foot scale. (or close enough).