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Korzon77

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Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« on: 30 March 2012, 20:28:23 »
I'm working on  fan fic, slowly as I also have paying writing. (sadly, paying beats fan.  Paying Always beats fan), where there is a whups involving an attempt to create a iceship jump system that could jump entire fleets.  At the point of the test, Amaris comes to play and the commander orders the fleet into the jumpfield and uses it.

Best result: Everyone escapes.

Worst result: Jumpfield plays havok, everyone dies, Amaris goons get rubble.

Actual result: Reappear in 3030, looking over a dead world, going: ???!!

In addition to a number of troop and warships roughly equivlent to a SLDF fleet formation, the jump includes a support formation with 2 Newgranges, and 2 Ptoempkin troop cruisers with repair and support dropships.

Now, given that its 3025 and there aren't a lot of new parts handy, could the newgranges keep the ships and equipment running, presuming now heavy combat?

Secondly, how big a stab could they make at refitting the shipyards at Quatre bell, or providing the seed construction capacity for repairing or building other production lines?

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #1 on: 30 March 2012, 20:58:43 »
i would think it would depend on the type of dropships your carring... some types are fluffed as high maint. (confed exp).  come up with a list of dropships your wanting.  the aero board might help with that.  as far as setting up a place to rebuild check out the Dark Nebula, camalot commend might be a better fit.  also we know that in 3039 tech was rebuilding, so 3030 you could find more spares than you think but it could a market you use to generat cash to rebuild a planet.

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #2 on: 30 March 2012, 23:13:00 »
One question i have to ask, is are they picking a house side :P

And this is definately something i would be interested in reading.

but to answer your question, SL support units can do, build and maintain miracles I mean they built so much stuff thats still around hidden nowadays, not to mention each SL unit was huge so their logistical and support trails were pretty epic as well.

personally, if they had access to raw materials and a place to sit down, i am quite sure they could rebuild and build new things from scratch, espeically newgranges.

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #3 on: 31 March 2012, 01:08:10 »
In addition to a number of troop and warships roughly equivlent to a SLDF fleet formation, the jump includes a support formation with 2 Newgranges, and 2 Ptoempkin troop cruisers with repair and support dropships.

Now, given that its 3025 and there aren't a lot of new parts handy, could the newgranges keep the ships and equipment running, presuming now heavy combat?

Secondly, how big a stab could they make at refitting the shipyards at Quatre bell, or providing the seed construction capacity for repairing or building other production lines?

The Newgranges could keep the fleet up and running for a limited time as long as their supplies hold out and as long as combat doesn't cause too much damage.  More damage means that supplies are used up faster.  In addition, there is a limit as to what Newgranges can repair.  Despite having access to Terra, Blake's Mercy Pretty much the same answer for Question 2, they would need to secure a new source of supplies to repair/refit the Quatre Belle shipyards.  The best choice would be a secret pact with the Outworlds Alliance as most others, especially the DCMS, would try to seize control of the fleet at the earliest opportunity.
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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #4 on: 31 March 2012, 01:09:15 »
To give an idea, remember the Grey Death core found on Helm?  A Star League Engineering battalion took a meter thick slab of granite, put it up on edge, and used that for a door.  They also trimmed the ravine so it would fit better, set up a fusion plant and computer system to oversee everything, a rapid transit system to move Mechs within the structure quickly, and it was still working over two centuries later.

They might have a copy of the Memory Core, so any local population will get a lot of benefit.  The problem is how much of their tech can be built by them, vs what needs external tech support to replace.  The bright side is with the Core they will be able to plan an uplift protocol for the planet.  The problem is they will become target number one for almost every House and Comstar tech team, as even though the Helm Core is being copied, these are people who have actually worked with the tech.

The NewGrange and Potemkins will be their key features.  Warships in the 3025-3030 era mean they have the firepower to keep lots of people honest when they visit.  The other fun will be various groups realizing that it would be less painful to just purchase tech items or teaching services, vs trying to shoot at them.

The fun question is if they will they head to Terra to see what is currently going on.

Korzon77

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #5 on: 31 March 2012, 01:47:53 »
No. They want to stay far away from Comstar.

Not because they know anything mind you.

But you ahve one of the most heavily industrialized systems in the known universe, central to a com network that would give any house that could control it an unbeatable advantage...

ASnd not only do the houses not try to take it, they meakly pay comstars fees and accept the fact that their postman is also their worst enemies postman.

Nope, Comstar definitely has more up their sleeves than their arms...

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #6 on: 31 March 2012, 02:22:44 »
Actually in 3030 they have a fairly good reputation among the general populace no worse than your average House corporation trying to make money where they can.  While a few has suspicions about their motivations nobody had any concrete evidence.  The Fleet's main concern would probably be their quasi-religious trappings as they have people who know how HPGs work.

The big problem is that the Fleet would jump into 3030 without any idea of what happened after the Amaris Coup.  As far as they would know it would still be the 28th century.  Their first action would be to use their HPG to get in touch with the SLDF so as to get marching orders against Amaris (as far as they would know Amaris would still be trying to take over).  As a result their first contact would be with ComStar, whose first reaction is that the message was a prank, before trying to isolate and manipulate the Fleet.  The sad part is that ComStar would simply have to tell them (mostly) the truth of what happened.  The Exodus, the Succession Wars, etc.  Obviously they would leave out the truth of their manipulations.  Even if the fleet realized that they were no longer in the 28th century their actions would still be to try and get in touch with the Star League since as far as they know the Star League would still exist.  Again their attempts to contact the authorities would mean contacting ComStar first.
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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #7 on: 31 March 2012, 02:23:39 »
unless I am mistaken the newgranges while they are primarally "assembly" yards, do have at least limited "production" capability.

what I mean by this is that if you gave a newgrange a supply of parts they can definately assemble a dropship, jumpship, or warship, if you gave the newgrange a supply of raw materials they may, or would be able to eventually assemble the same ship, but it would take a lot longer.

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #8 on: 31 March 2012, 02:53:39 »
The newgranges best advantage is likely as a "Key tools factory" in other words, you don't use it to make a ship or a mech-- you use it to make the parts t6o make the tools that make the mechs--obviously a long process.  OTH, you have thousands of trained technicians, trained to star league levels who could no doubt do lots for other factories in the IS.

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #9 on: 31 March 2012, 04:46:52 »
Given the OP's description of what is going on I'm going to make a statement: These people have the ability to pretty much assemble a KF drive (or rather several) IN SITU, quite possibly design them as well, I'd say they could pretty much build anything they wanted as long as they as long as they could get the raw materials, things like processed steel and aluminum here, not ores, And well they have Warships, it's 3030, they could crave out a small empire quite easily

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Re: Construction capabilities of SL support echelons?
« Reply #10 on: 31 March 2012, 06:22:31 »
and as for q. bell , yes with the newgranges they could refurbish the shipyards. OA mothballed ships and the yards before they failed due to lack of parts/tech.
they knew they could not maintain them so carefully mothballed them for the future.

so it would take time but your group has the tech and the ability to make the parts needed :)